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imlisteningtothefnsong
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OG- my big guy now calls his little brother, "Hang Time". Says he never seen a player fly after being hit so hard. But he always got up, so it is a good learning experience to not be the alpha!! :lol:
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And Boogie is still a squirt !!! Wow. Are the kids mostly Mn kids or are they from all over?[the country]
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It is a mix of all over. KC, Calif, MN, TX, We only have 15 skaters this year, but I will PM you and give you some details.
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imlisteningtothefnsong wrote:It is a mix of all over. KC, Calif, MN, TX, We only have 15 skaters this year, but I will PM you and give you some details.
With the recruiting from all over the nation how are they able to play in the MSHSL?
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Bleed Maroon and Gold wrote:With the recruiting from all over the nation how are they able to play in the MSHSL?
They agreed not to beat anybody.
Be kind. Rewind.
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The kids are not there for the hockey, it's all about the education. #-o
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All students and usually one sometimes both parents have moved here as well.
It is a great education. My boys were 40 deep in the back row, texting Mary Jane Rotten #^otch and not even listening to the teacher tell them what Martin Luther King's second cousin's favorite color was.... 4:1 teacher ratio and grades good enough to be able to play. Best experience my boys have ever had in school!
On the recruiting issue, just come and watch us. You will see that none of these boys would have been recruited. I am guessing they came to this school because they had not been recruited. No super stars here, just kids that want to get better at both school and hockey. It's working in our house and my boys love it!! Shame on them! :lol:
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My kids don't go to school saying "boy we are going to get a great education today". They are like Sh1t we have school today. If this thing motivates kids to WANT to go to school then what more could you want. My opinion. As far as Mary Jane, we didn't text her we did something else. 8)
imlisteningtothefnsong
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Oh boy, OG!
I never share my youth with my kids!! However, much has changed... From trying to sneak a peek at SI's swimsuit issue in, to what these kids have access to...
Keep them on the ice all day!! They will be too tired to chase old rotten #^otch!!
Right? :roll:
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imlisteningtothefnsong wrote:All students and usually one sometimes both parents have moved here as well.
It is a great education. My boys were 40 deep in the back row, texting Mary Jane Rotten #^otch and not even listening to the teacher tell them what Martin Luther King's second cousin's favorite color was.... 4:1 teacher ratio and grades good enough to be able to play. Best experience my boys have ever had in school!
On the recruiting issue, just come and watch us. You will see that none of these boys would have been recruited. I am guessing they came to this school because they had not been recruited. No super stars here, just kids that want to get better at both school and hockey. It's working in our house and my boys love it!! Shame on them! :lol:
I have no issues with the fact that you want to send your kids to this school thats your choice and great for you if you want to waste the money every year for them to play hockey for class. I can find better things to spend my money on and if I didn't think my kids were getting a good education at a public school and they wanted to do an online charter school then I would take care of that and not pay that much to do it.

On the recruiting issue I am sure at least 90% of the kids from out state were recruited you can deny it all you want. Its not like this is Shattuck or a well known boarding school on the east coast. This is a new school hardly anyone outside of the twin cities knows about. So they need to go and find kids to attend this school to keep it going. I guess if all schools in the state could recruit we will expand within a couple years and every school could have a chance to become the next great school for hockey. However that is not how the high school league is supposed to work. But its great that the parents of the kids that go to this school are open to admitting they recruit. :lol:
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Bleed, I am pleased that you are smart with your money! Tonight, I will sleep even sounder than the last!!
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So I'm hearing this school could swell to 3oo-400 kids in the next two years. No way Eagan Ice arena can handle that many kids. Woodcroft will have to build his own school. Maybe North/south campus setup ??? It seem that there are happy parents/kids. It will just keep growing. I see Major Midgets AAA/Jr team[he already owns a USHL team] prepschool type gig in the future. They are smart business people !!!
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Thanks OG, now the grenades will be really flying!! :o
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imlisteningtothefnsong wrote:Thanks OG, now the grenades will be really flying!! :o
Not worth throwing the grenades but can't wait for one of two things to happen get suspended by the high school league for recruiting or flop and get run out of town
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Post by imlisteningtothefnsong »

"Not worth grenade tossing" But here is one any how!!

Weeping and gnashing of teeth!! :lol:
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I think what is happening is this school is new and some people aren't comfortable with change. I don't know if they can be successful, time will tell.

For over 40 years I have heard of ski racing high schools and thought they are a similar comparison.

Burke Mountain Academy
http://www.burkemtnacademy.org

Green Mountain Valley School
http://gmvs.org

Vail Ski & Snowboard Academy
http://eagleschools.net/index.aspx?page=95

And then while searching for one that was based in Banff, Alberta, which seems to have closed I ran across this,

The Banff Hockey Academy
http://www.banffhockey.ab.ca

Of course we've heard of gymnastics schools and the Nick Bollettieri tennis schools. Now the Bollettieri tennis school has evolved to become the IMG Academy which offers high level training in several sports. They're on the top of the heap and charge around $50,000 per year.
http://www.imgacademies.com

Successful models that I presume the Achiever Academy follows.
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old goalie85 wrote:So I'm hearing this school could swell to 3oo-400 kids in the next two years. No way Eagan Ice arena can handle that many kids. Woodcroft will have to build his own school. Maybe North/south campus setup ??? It seem that there are happy parents/kids. It will just keep growing. I see Major Midgets AAA/Jr team[he already owns a USHL team] prepschool type gig in the future. They are smart business people !!!
Heck, if they can get and maintain a 300-400 kid enrollment, they should just build their own rink as well. Part of the marketing program has to involve having classes right there at the rink...building a separate school building and shuttling kids from one to the other would work against that edge. And I can't imagine that many kids sharing two shower stalls
Throw in a future MSHSL girls team and they'd also struggle to find home ice times on Eagan's primary sheet.

Always have extra room to add onto the Super Rink, right?
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Vadnias ???
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Watched them play my sons team this weekend, not a bad team. Short on numbers (I only counted 14 skaters) but they played well until the game got a little rough (no refs). Our team has a few former AAA Nat's and they said that a lot of the Achiever kids were Nat's players (even the out-of-state kids) so I assume that is why they have moved here.

I think the main issue most will have (esp. if this program gets really good) is the fact that they train for Hockey year round and compete against programs that don't. We will see how it goes...

Most don't remember the days when Shattuck started gearing up it's Hockey program...they were BAD!! It took many years to build that program to what it is today. I see a similar future for this program.
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How did they do last night.
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The bottom line is that no person in their right mind can say that this is a good education. Online classes are a recipe for disaster. Do you think that an Ivy League school, such as Harvard, looks at their transcript and gets excited when they see that this particular student took online classes in high school. No. Sorry.
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old goalie85 wrote:How did they do last night.
Lost 7-2 to Providence. Shots were 48-23 I think. All on HockeyHub.
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starmvp wrote:The bottom line is that no person in their right mind can say that this is a good education. Online classes are a recipe for disaster. Do you think that an Ivy League school, such as Harvard, looks at their transcript and gets excited when they see that this particular student took online classes in high school. No. Sorry.
Interesting take considering Harvard has fully embraced online education for high school students

http://www.extension.harvard.edu/prospe ... l-students
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scorekeeper wrote:
starmvp wrote:The bottom line is that no person in their right mind can say that this is a good education. Online classes are a recipe for disaster. Do you think that an Ivy League school, such as Harvard, looks at their transcript and gets excited when they see that this particular student took online classes in high school. No. Sorry.
Interesting take considering Harvard has fully embraced online education for high school students

http://www.extension.harvard.edu/prospe ... l-students
Harvard is obligated to give home school students a chance, they are by no means saying that online classes are better than a prep school education. Furthermore, the online classes on that page can be more directly applied to students who are 4.0 students at their high school and chose to take ADDITIONAL courses that are not offered at their school.
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Post by scorekeeper »

Not just for high school either. College as well. Here is the Harvard ad ...


Continuing education online

A Harvard education accessible to everyone.
Take evening or online courses. Or pursue a bachelor’s or master’s degree part time.



Online education must be gaining serious credibility, high school and college, if Harvard is promoting it.
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