Is St. Thomas Academy the best team in the State?
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Is St. Thomas Academy the best team in the State?
You could certainly make a case that they are No. 1 overall. So far they have posted wins over AA powers Hill-Murray, Edina, and this evening Benilde-St. Margaret's. They have an overall record of 11-1-1, with their only blemishes being an early season 3-1 loss to Minnetonka and a 3-3 (official) overtime tie against Hill-Murray in the Schwan Cup Gold Division final.
Are they the State's real No. 1 overall, as of today?
And, given all of their success this season, do you suppose they are now wishing they had declared their intent to opt up to Class AA a year earlier that they finally did?
Are they the State's real No. 1 overall, as of today?
And, given all of their success this season, do you suppose they are now wishing they had declared their intent to opt up to Class AA a year earlier that they finally did?
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KRACH thinks they are as of this AM:
http://www.bgoski.com/b/KRACH_OA_20130111.htm
http://www.bgoski.com/b/KRACH_OA.htm
http://www.bgoski.com/b/KRACH_OA_20130111.htm
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STA is the class of high school hockey in MN right now. They have speed, depth, skill, and solid goaltending. No major flaws. They have played & beat the best so far (with the exception of Tonka). They will toy with Class A teams in the Tourney (feel sorry for their 1st round-unseeded team....ouch) and will put another trophy in their trophy case. They will do so in a half empty arena in March.
It will be interesting to see which section they get placed in next year. It will also be interesting to see what happens down the road should they fail to make the Tourney, say for a couple years in a row. Will the players continue to come?
But for now, ya gotta give them their due. They are very good and have made the choice to opt up next year. Stomach this year then see what happens down the road.
It will be interesting to see which section they get placed in next year. It will also be interesting to see what happens down the road should they fail to make the Tourney, say for a couple years in a row. Will the players continue to come?
But for now, ya gotta give them their due. They are very good and have made the choice to opt up next year. Stomach this year then see what happens down the road.
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Tartan is #9 overall? Really?ghshockeyfan wrote:KRACH thinks they are as of this AM:
http://www.bgoski.com/b/KRACH_OA_20130111.htm
http://www.bgoski.com/b/KRACH_OA.htm
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It'll be a great finish when EGF beats them in the A championship game:
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I think we need a few more games to sort out exactly where teams like Tartan, Princeton, etc. are at from a computer ranking standpoint.
Some of these teams are winning all their games except those against the very top teams in the state.
The Tartan example is easiest to see this - they lost to HM & STA and won the rest. Not certain how highly ranked the next team is that they played and beat.
There was a similar discussion here:
http://www.ushsho.com/forums/viewtopic. ... ht=#610958
Back to the topic of this post - it seems many agree STA is #1 overall or at least deserving of consideration...
Some of these teams are winning all their games except those against the very top teams in the state.
The Tartan example is easiest to see this - they lost to HM & STA and won the rest. Not certain how highly ranked the next team is that they played and beat.
There was a similar discussion here:
http://www.ushsho.com/forums/viewtopic. ... ht=#610958
Back to the topic of this post - it seems many agree STA is #1 overall or at least deserving of consideration...
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At Shattuck on Weds.
The Shattuck website shows St Thomas at Shattuck on Wed 1/16. Is this correct?
Don't see it on Hockey Hub.
Don't see it on Hockey Hub.
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Re: At Shattuck on Weds.
SSM has it on their schedule, and it looks like the game will be streamed live:WarmUpTheBus wrote:The Shattuck website shows St Thomas at Shattuck on Wed 1/16. Is this correct?
Don't see it on Hockey Hub.
http://ssmhockey.org/boys-prep-2012-13/
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Re: Is St. Thomas Academy the best team in the State?
I know very well that majority of the St. Thomas Academy fans & community have wanted the team to move up since they won in 2008. The fact is their headmaster and athletic director have held them back from moving up, mentioning that they are an academic institution first, athletics not being the priority. If they could have moved up any earlier, I believe they would have. It is clearly difficult for a team to win back to back state championships and celebrate, when they have asked to move up and their own headmaster won't approve.MNHockeyFan wrote:You could certainly make a case that they are No. 1 overall. So far they have posted wins over AA powers Hill-Murray, Edina, and this evening Benilde-St. Margaret's. They have an overall record of 11-1-1, with their only blemishes being an early season 3-1 loss to Minnetonka and a 3-3 (official) overtime tie against Hill-Murray in the Schwan Cup Gold Division final.
Are they the State's real No. 1 overall, as of today?
And, given all of their success this season, do you suppose they are now wishing they had declared their intent to opt up to Class AA a year earlier that they finally did?
Now they are going to 3peat this year, first time ever done in class A or AA, and feel guilty celebrating the season because everyone knows which class they should be in.
Too bad their headmaster didn't approve last year, because they could have opted to move to 2A in time for this year. But they were not able to opt up for this year, because you only have the option every 2 years.
So it looks like Hermantown will have to wait 1 more year to have the chance become something other than the "Public School 1A Champs."
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Re: Is St. Thomas Academy the best team in the State?
untill it is proven otherwise I think they are making one helluva case to be the best team in the state.MNHockeyFan wrote:You could certainly make a case that they are No. 1 overall. So far they have posted wins over AA powers Hill-Murray, Edina, and this evening Benilde-St. Margaret's. They have an overall record of 11-1-1, with their only blemishes being an early season 3-1 loss to Minnetonka and a 3-3 (official) overtime tie against Hill-Murray in the Schwan Cup Gold Division final.
Are they the State's real No. 1 overall, as of today?
And, given all of their success this season, do you suppose they are now wishing they had declared their intent to opt up to Class AA a year earlier that they finally did?
And, quite honestly I couldn't care less which division they play in.
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True, but the Al -ND game was FOR the championship.7A22A wrote:Sounds like the Alabama / Notre Dame football game.thestickler07 wrote:That was a pretty eloquent way of saying they got their a**es beat.rockcrusher wrote:After spotting STA 3 goals on their first 7 shots, Duluth Marshall skated to a 1-1 tie with the Cadets for the next 2 1/2 periods.
It might be better to wait for a statement like that.
Re: Is St. Thomas Academy the best team in the State?
It's curious to me that playing hockey at the AA level would mean they are less of an academic institiution.?????EliteHockeyMind wrote:I know very well that majority of the St. Thomas Academy fans & community have wanted the team to move up since they won in 2008. The fact is their headmaster and athletic director have held them back from moving up, mentioning that they are an academic institution first, athletics not being the priority. If they could have moved up any earlier, I believe they would have. It is clearly difficult for a team to win back to back state championships and celebrate, when they have asked to move up and their own headmaster won't approve.MNHockeyFan wrote:You could certainly make a case that they are No. 1 overall. So far they have posted wins over AA powers Hill-Murray, Edina, and this evening Benilde-St. Margaret's. They have an overall record of 11-1-1, with their only blemishes being an early season 3-1 loss to Minnetonka and a 3-3 (official) overtime tie against Hill-Murray in the Schwan Cup Gold Division final.
Are they the State's real No. 1 overall, as of today?
And, given all of their success this season, do you suppose they are now wishing they had declared their intent to opt up to Class AA a year earlier that they finally did?
Now they are going to 3peat this year, first time ever done in class A or AA, and feel guilty celebrating the season because everyone knows which class they should be in.
Too bad their headmaster didn't approve last year, because they could have opted to move to 2A in time for this year. But they were not able to opt up for this year, because you only have the option every 2 years.
So it looks like Hermantown will have to wait 1 more year to have the chance become something other than the "Public School 1A Champs."
Re: Is St. Thomas Academy the best team in the State?
EliteHockeyMind wrote:I know very well that majority of the St. Thomas Academy fans & community have wanted the team to move up since they won in 2008. The fact is their headmaster and athletic director have held them back from moving up, mentioning that they are an academic institution first, athletics not being the priority. If they could have moved up any earlier, I believe they would have. It is clearly difficult for a team to win back to back state championships and celebrate, when they have asked to move up and their own headmaster won't approve.MNHockeyFan wrote:You could certainly make a case that they are No. 1 overall. So far they have posted wins over AA powers Hill-Murray, Edina, and this evening Benilde-St. Margaret's. They have an overall record of 11-1-1, with their only blemishes being an early season 3-1 loss to Minnetonka and a 3-3 (official) overtime tie against Hill-Murray in the Schwan Cup Gold Division final.
Are they the State's real No. 1 overall, as of today?
And, given all of their success this season, do you suppose they are now wishing they had declared their intent to opt up to Class AA a year earlier that they finally did?
Now they are going to 3peat this year, first time ever done in class A or AA, and feel guilty celebrating the season because everyone knows which class they should be in.
Too bad their headmaster didn't approve last year, because they could have opted to move to 2A in time for this year. But they were not able to opt up for this year, because you only have the option every 2 years.
So it looks like Hermantown will have to wait 1 more year to have the chance become something other than the "Public School 1A Champs."