Another Way to look at Peewee A (and AA) 2013

frederick61 · Post by **frederick61** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:27 pm

Just posted the first Another Way this year. It covers the District Playoffs for the East Regional Peewee A and Peewee AA tourneys and predicts the first round draw for each tourney. More Another way to follow, next up sometime this week will be the West Regionals.

Links to additional "Another Ways" will be posted here.

It is a long read and tries to cover every team peewee A and AA team in D2, D6, and D8.

It can be read at:

http://youthhockeyhub.com/another-way-t ... regionals/

nahc · Post by **nahc** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:29 pm

Fred: Great job!! A very detailed review. All these are predictions of course and as we know during tourney time, a LOT of surprises occur!!!

frederick61 · Post by **frederick61** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:03 pm

nahc wrote:Fred: Great job!! A very detailed review. All these are predictions of course and as we know during tourney time, a LOT of surprises occur!!!

The surprises are what makes it fun. Glad you enjoyed the write-up. I hope it gives the kids and parents involved a better understanding of what is going to happen.

GTTN · Post by **GTTN** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:08 pm

Freddy not sure how you came about that the PWAA D6 #4 seed to regions will be the highest regular season finisher other than the 3 teams ahead of them in the district playoffs.

From the D6 PWAA playoff page it states that the D6 #4 seed to regions is the loser of game six. It doesn't matter what seed you are, if you lose in game six of the playoffs (which is the 3rd place game) you are the #4 seed.

frederick61 · Post by **frederick61** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:49 pm

GTTN wrote:Freddy not sure how you came about that the PWAA D6 #4 seed to regions will be the highest regular season finisher other than the 3 teams ahead of them in the district playoffs.

From the D6 PWAA playoff page it states that the D6 #4 seed to regions is the loser of game six. It doesn't matter what seed you are, if you lose in game six of the playoffs (which is the 3rd place game) you are the #4 seed.

Your right. That is what it says. Perhaps I read it wrong this morning. Thank you for the correction.

frederick61 · Post by **frederick61** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:56 pm

Just posted the North Region for peewee A and peewee AA. It can be read at

http://youthhockeyhub.com/another-way-t ... th-region/

The West Region will be out early next week and the south shortly after that.

frederick61 · Post by **frederick61** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:15 pm

Just post the West Regional version of another way. The South will be out later this week. The West can be read at:

http://youthhockeyhub.com/another-way-t ... -regional/

Bleed Maroon and Gold · Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:57 pm

frederick61 wrote:Just post the West Regional version of another way. The South will be out later this week. The West can be read at:

http://youthhockeyhub.com/another-way-t ... -regional/

Fredrick

If you go on the D10 website the Bracket is out for how they will play the 5 seeds. The Bracket is located under the tournaments on the left hand side.[/img]

BlaineJGA · Post by **BlaineJGA** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:18 pm

frederick61 wrote:Just post the West Regional version of another way. The South will be out later this week. The West can be read at:

http://youthhockeyhub.com/another-way-t ... -regional/

Freddy

I usually enjoy your write ups and off the wallpredictions. However I think your nuts on the D10 predictions. There is no way Blaine will beat Elk River again pretty sure they got lucky on the one win against them. Elk River has a tendency to lose one game a year they shouldn't have and that was the game this year. I am also going to go out on a limb and say Centennial won't beat Elk River and Andover won't lose to Irondale. That makes things a little different. I do however think Rogers has a chance to beat Champlin Park since they tied a week or so ago. I do not think Anoka Will be Irondale however and I see Irondale and Rogers or champlin Battling it out for the 5th seed to the North Regional. If Irondale Plays Rogers I give the edge to Irondale. If Irondale Plays Champlin I think that is going to be a great battle. Champlin won the two district games but Irondale won a game in their Thanksgiving tournament championship. All three of those games had the same score 3-1.

Good write up however I appreciate all your work.

Bleed Maroon and Gold · Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:27 pm

Bleed Maroon and Gold wrote:
frederick61 wrote:Just post the West Regional version of another way. The South will be out later this week. The West can be read at:

http://youthhockeyhub.com/another-way-t ... -regional/
Fredrick

If you go on the D10 website the Bracket is out for how they will play the 5 seeds. The Bracket is located under the tournaments on the left hand side.[/img]

Fredrick here you go. Irondale 4 Andover AA 3

frederick61 · Post by **frederick61** » Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:18 am

Just added the South Regional to complete the trip around the state at the peewee A level. The post is not just about the South, but also about what is happening as the playoffs draw near. I am tired of leaders iwho tell people one thing to acheive authority and then implement their personal agenda.

The post can be read at:
http://youthhockeyhub.com/another-way-t ... e-a-south/

Knowyourrole · Post by **Knowyourrole** » Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:56 am

BlaineJGA wrote:
frederick61 wrote:Just post the West Regional version of another way. The South will be out later this week. The West can be read at:

http://youthhockeyhub.com/another-way-t ... -regional/
Freddy

I usually enjoy your write ups and off the wallpredictions. However I think your nuts on the D10 predictions. There is no way Blaine will beat Elk River again pretty sure they got lucky on the one win against them. Elk River has a tendency to lose one game a year they shouldn't have and that was the game this year. I am also going to go out on a limb and say Centennial won't beat Elk River and Andover won't lose to Irondale. That makes things a little different. I do however think Rogers has a chance to beat Champlin Park since they tied a week or so ago. I do not think Anoka Will be Irondale however and I see Irondale and Rogers or champlin Battling it out for the 5th seed to the North Regional. If Irondale Plays Rogers I give the edge to Irondale. If Irondale Plays Champlin I think that is going to be a great battle. Champlin won the two district games but Irondale won a game in their Thanksgiving tournament championship. All three of those games had the same score 3-1.

Good write up however I appreciate all your work.

No way Blaine beats Elk River?? Centeniial just played Elk River on Tuesday won 2-0 and Blaine Wednesday and won 4-3 after coming back being down 2-0 and 3-2. I think Blaine could beat Elk River easily again. It's not a done deal but Blaine is better then you think.

Bluewhitefan · Post by **Bluewhitefan** » Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:13 am

frederick61 wrote:Just added the South Regional to complete the trip around the state at the peewee A level. The post is not just about the South, but also about what is happening as the playoffs draw near. I am tired of leaders iwho tell people one thing to acheive authority and then implement their personal agenda.

The post can be read at:
http://youthhockeyhub.com/another-way-t ... e-a-south/

Freddie:

Do you really think that a team that is 46-0 really cares that much about what region they play in? If the vote was so much about Edina, then why did the rest of the district support it? You make no mention of the fact that the LOSER of the 3rd/4th place game has a clearer path to state than the three teams in front of them. D6 and D8 simply tried to do something about it, since MN Hockey wouldn't.

frederick61 · Post by **frederick61** » Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:17 pm

Bluewhitefan wrote:
frederick61 wrote:Just added the South Regional to complete the trip around the state at the peewee A level. The post is not just about the South, but also about what is happening as the playoffs draw near. I am tired of leaders iwho tell people one thing to acheive authority and then implement their personal agenda.

The post can be read at:
http://youthhockeyhub.com/another-way-t ... e-a-south/
Freddie:

Do you really think that a team that is 46-0 really cares that much about what region they play in? If the vote was so much about Edina, then why did the rest of the district support it? You make no mention of the fact that the LOSER of the 3rd/4th place game has a clearer path to state than the three teams in front of them. D6 and D8 simply tried to do something about it, since MN Hockey wouldn't.

ere you at the D6 meeting? I was not, but was told that Edina was one of the leaders asking D6 to ask Minnesota Hockey to do this. Only the BAA and PWAA levels are involved. Both Edina AA teams are strong candidates to win D6 playoffs at that level and benefit.

As I said in the post, even if the motives are honest, the perception is bad especially after what the North letter said. It says to people involved during the season, that a Minnesota Hockey committee will not be honest in allocations if the allocations are made during the season.

It creates all sorts of distrust. And with no counter forth coming from Minnesota Hockey, the preception of operating on a personal agenda this year is real. That the process is not to be trusted.

D6 and Edina's actions fuel that distrust especially outside the Twin City area. Minnesota Hockey has to understand that they hold the cards as long as they play with integrity and represent all of Minnesota.

People are changing and newer people to the process want to "do" and "move on". That includes people from USA Hockey. Minnesota Hockey has to play their cards responsibly for the people in Minnesota.

But some of the newer people are of the Bevis and Butthead of the generation. Like the old cartoon, they think it is funny to ring a doorbell and runaway to watch somebody opening it. They have no sense of responsibility for their actions.

They will always be the last to say "it was me and I did it".

Was the North letter account of this year's allocations correct. Nobody is stepping forward and saying "I did it and it was the best for all of the state of hockey".

Mnhockeys · Post by **Mnhockeys** » Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:37 pm

frederick61 wrote:Just added the South Regional to complete the trip around the state at the peewee A level. The post is not just about the South, but also about what is happening as the playoffs draw near. I am tired of leaders iwho tell people one thing to acheive authority and then implement their personal agenda.

The post can be read at:
http://youthhockeyhub.com/another-way-t ... e-a-south/

Funny stuff indeed .... a couple of corrections - one team cannot go to two different regions; district 8 has one team going to South regional not two.

About the seeds from d6 and d8 going to south and west regionals, Edina or D6 proposal will not fly through MH. Can you imagine that D6/D8 send their top seeds (1 or 2) to South/West, then win the berths to state? We would potentially see 6 of the 8 state tournament teams from D6/8. Sending the 4 and 5th seeds would effectively eilminate that possibility.

Freddy - you mentioned that D8 would send the 3rd finisher in their district playoff to south regional as the 4th seed, where did you get that information?

frederick61 · Post by **frederick61** » Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:23 pm

Mnhockeys wrote:
frederick61 wrote:Just added the South Regional to complete the trip around the state at the peewee A level. The post is not just about the South, but also about what is happening as the playoffs draw near. I am tired of leaders iwho tell people one thing to acheive authority and then implement their personal agenda.

The post can be read at:
http://youthhockeyhub.com/another-way-t ... e-a-south/
Funny stuff indeed .... a couple of corrections - one team cannot go to two different regions; district 8 has one team going to South regional not two.

About the seeds from d6 and d8 going to south and west regionals, Edina or D6 proposal will not fly through MH. Can you imagine that D6/D8 send their top seeds (1 or 2) to South/West, then win the berths to state? We would potentially see 6 of the 8 state tournament teams from D6/8. Sending the 4 and 5th seeds would effectively eilminate that possibility.

Freddy - you mentioned that D8 would send the 3rd finisher in their district playoff to south regional as the 4th seed, where did you get that information?

That was D8 original plan when they released their playoff format in early January. Minnesota Hockey told D8 they could not do that so D8 changed the seeding.

It is my understanding that Minnesota Hockey has rejected D6's request. They had to. If they didin't, the D10 and D8 winners would also be able to pick their regional. Everybody would wait for Edina to decide on South or East and jump the other way.

The logistics would have been horrible for those holding the regionals.

GTTN · Post by **GTTN** » Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:47 pm

Just so I'm clear D6 #1,2,3 go to the East Region and #4 goes to the South as of now?

old goalie85 · Post by **old goalie85** » Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:57 pm

I think #3 in D2 ends up better off then the other 2 teams. #3 goes to the South. I think.