Section 3A (2012-13 Season)

[GPGT]

You heard it 3A, your all punchlines. Fold your programs immediately. Your not wanted anywhere. Burn your arenas down. You are not up to the specifications of these idiots. In fact, maybe the towns you reside in should simply melt into the earth as well. You will never compare to the numbnuts up in duluth, or the clown in the cities. KNOW WHEN TO FOLD EM....

little dramatic dont ya think? And just a FYI.... Luverne has "numbnuts" too... Don't discriminate

and you crossed the line with burning the towns... You could have just stopped at the arenas

[inthestands]

You heard it 3A, your all punchlines. Fold your programs immediately. Your not wanted anywhere. Burn your arenas down. You are not up to the specifications of these idiots. In fact, maybe the towns you reside in should simply melt into the earth as well. You will never compare to the numbnuts up in duluth, or the clown in the cities. KNOW WHEN TO FOLD EM....

little dramatic dont ya think? And just a FYI.... Luverne has "numbnuts" too... Don't discriminate

and you crossed the line with burning the towns... You could have just stopped at the arenas

Knew you weren't quite done yet..

[notTONIGHT]

You heard it 3A, your all punchlines. Fold your programs immediately. Your not wanted anywhere. Burn your arenas down. You are not up to the specifications of these idiots. In fact, maybe the towns you reside in should simply melt into the earth as well. You will never compare to the numbnuts up in duluth, or the clown in the cities. KNOW WHEN TO FOLD EM....

little dramatic dont ya think? And just a FYI.... Luverne has "numbnuts" too... Don't discriminate

and you crossed the line with burning the towns... You could have just stopped at the arenas

Its the same crap every.single.year. Some jack like you comes down and starts talking the same conversation. Did New Ulm design the section? Did Hutch gerrymander the section lines to have a favorable draw to reach the x? No, its time to quit looking down on these kids that have done nothing but compete as hard as they can, and do the best they can with what has been put in front of them. Trust me buddy, im no nurturing mother, but your smug attitude about how much better you are than 3A is nauseating.

[PuckSwami]

The section is what the section is, but Luverne hosted Mitchell, SD, not a tournament where you cannot control who you play, a home game against a team that is not sanctioned by it's state HS league. Not a border town either. There was nobody else that could have tested them a little more? Achiever Academy was looking for games and went all the way to Ely, Hallock and Bagley. Really, at least play some more Mid State teams.

[Deck Slide]

I hear what GPGT is talking about, there will be better games in some section quarter and semifinal games. I saw in the last few days that Luverne was considered around a #25 team in the state, conjecture as the AP Poll only goes to #20. There will be a lot of pain the next 7 days as many teams better than Luverne will be falling by the wayside. Here are the AP top 10

1. St. Thomas Academy (10)
2. Breck
3. Hermantown
4. Totino-Grace
5. East Grand Forks
6. Thief River Falls
7. Rochester Lourdes
8. St. Cloud Cathedral
9. Duluth Denfeld
10. Warroad

4A: How would you like to be #4 Totino, great year, all year in the top 10 and to get to state you have to go through #1 St Thomas Academy, arguably the best team in the state in either class?

5A: #8 Cathedral has been inconsistent this year but they are the #2 in the section with wins over Hermantown, Breck and Little Falls but they have to get by #3 Hermantown to see St. Paul.

8A: #5 EGF, #6 TRF, #10 Warroad, two will be home for the season by next Friday.

3A is the patsy all the seeded teams want to play in the state tournament because it means a running time game and a free pass into the championship side of the bracket. Just the teams I mentioned about would be a pretty quality and entertaining tournament. 3A is an example of why the AA people look down their noses a A and is a great example of why some advocate for a third class, or even drop the programs to Jr Gold.

Have Luverne or New Ulm play the schedule of any of these teams, they would be exposed as the punchlines they are.

Luverne and New Ulm would have the record a lot like Hutch or Litch.. The MSHSL is serving 3A no justice. Why the hell they don't bring in a program with a lot of consistency as far being competitive in Class A? They should bring down Cathedral into 3A! They are usually very competitive but at same time very beatable by the rest of the teams in the Section.. MSHSL needs 3A to raise its standards. From the sounds of it Luverne has some youth teams that are prett decent and Hutch has a good Bantam team coming up and New Ulm is going to greatly benefit from the coop..

I also think NU/SE is a gold mine. I never knew the enrollment of the Coop was that big!! They could possibly be a 3A powerhouse based just numbers they draw from.. Two Rinks in two different communities is a pretty big advantage!!

[notTONIGHT]

The section is what the section is, but Luverne hosted Mitchell, SD, not a tournament where you cannot control who you play, a home game against a team that is not sanctioned by it's state HS league. Not a border town either. There was nobody else that could have tested them a little more? Achiever Academy was looking for games and went all the way to Ely, Hallock and Bagley. Really, at least play some more Mid State teams.

Educate yourself swami. Luverne had a weekend lined up to play mora, the night before Princeton. Mora surprisingly canceled school the day of the game. Luverne made the trek anyway on perfect roads. It is difficult to schedule a new opponent mid season. Luverne was forced to play 24 games, or put Mitchell on the schedule. What would you do? Guess they didn't think to run it by puckswami before the decision was made...

[PuckSwami]

I also think NU/SE is a gold mine. I never knew the enrollment of the Coop was that big!! They could possibly be a 3A powerhouse based just numbers they draw from.. Two Rinks in two different communities is a pretty big advantage!!

The co op brings them to AA levels, forget the waivers, play were they are.

[GPGT]

You heard it 3A, your all punchlines. Fold your programs immediately. Your not wanted anywhere. Burn your arenas down. You are not up to the specifications of these idiots. In fact, maybe the towns you reside in should simply melt into the earth as well. You will never compare to the numbnuts up in duluth, or the clown in the cities. KNOW WHEN TO FOLD EM....

little dramatic dont ya think? And just a FYI.... Luverne has "numbnuts" too... Don't discriminate

and you crossed the line with burning the towns... You could have just stopped at the arenas

Its the same crap every.single.year. Some jack like you comes down and starts talking the same conversation. Did New Ulm design the section? Did Hutch gerrymander the section lines to have a favorable draw to reach the x? No, its time to quit looking down on these kids that have done nothing but compete as hard as they can, and do the best they can with what has been put in front of them. Trust me buddy, im no nurturing mother, but your smug attitude about how much better you are than 3A is nauseating.

Lol Am I comparing them to good teams ? No... Im not.. Am I taking away from the Luverne and 3A players? No, Im not... I said better teams deserve to be there, and they have a free ride.. If STA was in 3A we would be hearing the same old story about how they need to move or opt up from you 3A guys..

I have nothing to prove, I was just stating an opinion.. I haven't been here long enough to know what some other "Jack like me" says... AM I comparing DE to anyone in 3A? Nope, didn't do that either. So how I think "I am better than 3A" has anything to do with this, I think you are the one mistaken or confused..


I realize its the MSHSL that divides it up, Yep, got that, always have... SO Im not being big headed here, if anyone is, its the 3A people...


IF... IF, they make it past the 1/4s I'll eat my own words and give them recognition , if not, I guess some other "jack" will be here next year to take my place..

[PuckSwami]

The section is what the section is, but Luverne hosted Mitchell, SD, not a tournament where you cannot control who you play, a home game against a team that is not sanctioned by it's state HS league. Not a border town either. There was nobody else that could have tested them a little more? Achiever Academy was looking for games and went all the way to Ely, Hallock and Bagley. Really, at least play some more Mid State teams.

Educate yourself swami. Luverne had a weekend lined up to play mora, the night before Princeton. Mora surprisingly canceled school the day of the game. Luverne made the trek anyway on perfect roads. It is difficult to schedule a new opponent mid season. Luverne was forced to play 24 games, or put Mitchell on the schedule. What would you do? Guess they didn't think to run it by puckswami before the decision was made...

Why schedule Mora anyways? Schedule and play where you want to be, not to make yourself look good. If they cancelled, reschedule or just bag it. I'm sure the Luverne bantams would have done in a pinch if you just HAD to have a game as well as Mitchell did.

[GPGT]

The section is what the section is, but Luverne hosted Mitchell, SD, not a tournament where you cannot control who you play, a home game against a team that is not sanctioned by it's state HS league. Not a border town either. There was nobody else that could have tested them a little more? Achiever Academy was looking for games and went all the way to Ely, Hallock and Bagley. Really, at least play some more Mid State teams.

Educate yourself swami. Luverne had a weekend lined up to play mora, the night before Princeton. Mora surprisingly canceled school the day of the game. Luverne made the trek anyway on perfect roads. It is difficult to schedule a new opponent mid season. Luverne was forced to play 24 games, or put Mitchell on the schedule. What would you do? Guess they didn't think to run it by puckswami before the decision was made...

You seem a little bitter when someone has a different opinion than you..

[roundhead]

The section is what the section is, but Luverne hosted Mitchell, SD, not a tournament where you cannot control who you play, a home game against a team that is not sanctioned by it's state HS league. Not a border town either. There was nobody else that could have tested them a little more? Achiever Academy was looking for games and went all the way to Ely, Hallock and Bagley. Really, at least play some more Mid State teams.

Educate yourself swami. Luverne had a weekend lined up to play mora, the night before Princeton. Mora surprisingly canceled school the day of the game. Luverne made the trek anyway on perfect roads. It is difficult to schedule a new opponent mid season. Luverne was forced to play 24 games, or put Mitchell on the schedule. What would you do? Guess they didn't think to run it by puckswami before the decision was made...

You seem a little bitter when someone has a different opinion than you..

Tony... is that you?

[Deck Slide]

I also think NU/SE is a gold mine. I never knew the enrollment of the Coop was that big!! They could possibly be a 3A powerhouse based just numbers they draw from.. Two Rinks in two different communities is a pretty big advantage!!

The co op brings them to AA levels, forget the waivers, play were they are.

AGREED but if Luverne gets beat by NU/SE the Luverne people are going to be sending hate mail to the MSHSL..

with the exception of Eagan, 3AA doesn't look very good at all this year as well!!

[notTONIGHT]

The section is what the section is, but Luverne hosted Mitchell, SD, not a tournament where you cannot control who you play, a home game against a team that is not sanctioned by it's state HS league. Not a border town either. There was nobody else that could have tested them a little more? Achiever Academy was looking for games and went all the way to Ely, Hallock and Bagley. Really, at least play some more Mid State teams.

Educate yourself swami. Luverne had a weekend lined up to play mora, the night before Princeton. Mora surprisingly canceled school the day of the game. Luverne made the trek anyway on perfect roads. It is difficult to schedule a new opponent mid season. Luverne was forced to play 24 games, or put Mitchell on the schedule. What would you do? Guess they didn't think to run it by puckswami before the decision was made...

Why schedule Mora anyways? Schedule and play where you want to be, not to make yourself look good. If they cancelled, reschedule or just bag it. I'm sure the Luverne bantams would have done in a pinch if you just HAD to have a game as well as Mitchell did.

Its really summed up in two words. Geography and budget

[scorekeeper]

with the exception of Eagan, 3AA doesn't look very good at all this year as well!!

3AA has 3 teams in the Top 20 ... I think that's better than 1AA, 4AA & 8AA, same as 5AA and 7AA and close to 2AA, which has 4. The toughest is 6AA, with 5 Top 20 teams

[BlueLineSpecial]

with the exception of Eagan, 3AA doesn't look very good at all this year as well!!

3AA has 3 teams in the Top 20 ... I think that's better than 1AA, 4AA & 8AA, same as 5AA and 7AA and close to 2AA, which has 4. The toughest is 6AA, with 5 Top 20 teams

According to LPH, 4AA has 3 teams in the top twenty (HM, WBL, Tartan)

[new2coachin]

I hear what GPGT is talking about, there will be better games in some section quarter and semifinal games. I saw in the last few days that Luverne was considered around a #25 team in the state, conjecture as the AP Poll only goes to #20. There will be a lot of pain the next 7 days as many teams better than Luverne will be falling by the wayside. Here are the AP top 10

1. St. Thomas Academy (10)
2. Breck
3. Hermantown
4. Totino-Grace
5. East Grand Forks
6. Thief River Falls
7. Rochester Lourdes
8. St. Cloud Cathedral
9. Duluth Denfeld
10. Warroad

4A: How would you like to be #4 Totino, great year, all year in the top 10 and to get to state you have to go through #1 St Thomas Academy, arguably the best team in the state in either class?

5A: #8 Cathedral has been inconsistent this year but they are the #2 in the section with wins over Hermantown, Breck and Little Falls but they have to get by #3 Hermantown to see St. Paul.

8A: #5 EGF, #6 TRF, #10 Warroad, two will be home for the season by next Friday.

3A is the patsy all the seeded teams want to play in the state tournament because it means a running time game and a free pass into the championship side of the bracket. Just the teams I mentioned about would be a pretty quality and entertaining tournament. 3A is an example of why the AA people look down their noses a A and is a great example of why some advocate for a third class, or even drop the programs to Jr Gold.

Have Luverne or New Ulm play the schedule of any of these teams, they would be exposed as the punchlines they are.

Don't you think it a little odd that 5 out of the top 10 in Class A are private schools from large communities? & you are on here arguing about fairness?

As for some of the best games being in the sections prior to the State Tournament, the same thing would more then likely happen if you hand picked the teams, you could still end up with some blow out games at the State Tourney.

As for TG & Cathedral, I feel for them work a little harder on your youth teams

[scorekeeper]

with the exception of Eagan, 3AA doesn't look very good at all this year as well!!

3AA has 3 teams in the Top 20 ... I think that's better than 1AA, 4AA & 8AA, same as 5AA and 7AA and close to 2AA, which has 4. The toughest is 6AA, with 5 Top 20 teams

Not to throw the topic off course, but to address Deck Slide's comment , the AA sections break down like this, as far as having top teams (top 20) go ...


Section 6AA - (5 of the Top 20)
2. Benilde-St. Margaret’s (20-5)
5. Minnetonka (18-6-1)
8. Wayzata (18-7)
10. Eden Prairie (12-12-1)
18. Holy Family (18-7)

Section 2AA - (4 of the Top 20)
6. Edina (19-6)
12. Burnsville (15-9-1)
13. Bloomington Jefferson (16-9)
14. Prior Lake (16-9)

Section 3AA - (3 of the Top 20)
4. Eagan (21-3-1)
16. Cretin-Derham Hall (16-8-1)
20. Eastview (15-9-1)

Section 7AA - (3 of the Top 20)
3. Duluth East (21-4)
9. Grand Rapids (17-4-3)
15. Elk River (15-10)

Section 5AA - (3 of the Top 20)
7. Blaine (19-5-1)
11. Centennial (19-4-2
19. Maple Grove (14-11)

Section 4AA - (2 of the Top 20)
1. Hill-Murray (22-2-1)
17. White Bear Lake (15-9-1)

Section 8AA - (None of the Top 20)

Section 1AA - (None of the Top 20)

[bardown27]

lets get this back on subject. the games tonight. can hutch beat litch? will windom give marshall a run for their money?

[scorekeeper]

with the exception of Eagan, 3AA doesn't look very good at all this year as well!!

3AA has 3 teams in the Top 20 ... I think that's better than 1AA, 4AA & 8AA, same as 5AA and 7AA and close to 2AA, which has 4. The toughest is 6AA, with 5 Top 20 teams

According to LPH, 4AA has 3 teams in the top twenty (HM, WBL, Tartan)

Both mnhockeyrankings and mnhockeyprospects have Tartan at #21, but either way, 20 or 21 , there is no significant difference between 3AA, 4AA, 5AA and 7AA (unless you are from the region).

2AA is a little stronger and 6AA is the strongest.

The weakest are 1AA and 8AA

[scorekeeper]

lets get this back on subject. the games tonight. can hutch beat litch? will windom give marshall a run for their money?

nobody knows

[BlueLineSpecial]

3AA has 3 teams in the Top 20 ... I think that's better than 1AA, 4AA & 8AA, same as 5AA and 7AA and close to 2AA, which has 4. The toughest is 6AA, with 5 Top 20 teams

According to LPH, 4AA has 3 teams in the top twenty (HM, WBL, Tartan)

Both mnhockeyrankings and mnhockeyprospects have Tartan at #21, but either way, 20 or 21 , there is no significant difference between 3AA, 4AA, 5AA and 7AA (unless you are from the region).

2AA is a little stronger and 6AA is the strongest.

The weakest are 1AA and 8AA

Correct. I like defending 4AA

[notTONIGHT]

lets get this back on subject. the games tonight. can hutch beat litch? will windom give marshall a run for their money?

Both of those games are a toss up.

Depends on the play in the nets in Litchfield,

Depends on the potency of Windoms top line in Marshall.

[jeffpv]

My predictions:
Luverne vs. Worthington - 8-0 Luverne
Marshall vs. Windom - 5-4 Windom
LDC vs. Hutch - 3-1 LDC
New Ulm vs. Redwood - 8-0 New Ulm

I really hope Luverne can win this section and get to St Paul!
I really hope they won't have to play STA in the first game if they get there.

[bardown27]

Hutch 1
LDC 0

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[bardown27]

Hutch 3
LDC 2

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Marshall 2
Windom 0

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Luverne 10
Worthington 1

2nd period

New Ulm 10
RW Valley 0

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