Classy

[SB65]

So SCC is up 9-0 with 7 mins left in the 2nd period. Mr Div 1 has points at:

10:30 assist
10:57 goal
13:11 assist
16:01 assist

Then start the 3rd period off with a goal as well. Is 12 points in a game a SCC school record? If so congrats.

[TheSiouxSuck]

What exactly are you supposed to do as a coach in this situation. For example most 4th lines are made up of upperclassmen (where younger players would play JV and skate a regular shift). When the score is 7-0 and you're about to put out your all senior 4th line who rarely get a regular shift you're now supposed to tell them "OK boys, go out there and play hard but you cant score because it might hurt the other teams feelings"?

Playing your bottom lanes makes it especially hard to control the score because alot of kids in that situation dont get to see their name on the scoresheet very often.

[Doc Holliday]

"Atmosphere" in this game..?

Tell the jv kids you're looking for kids that will step up next year and have a controlled scrimmage.... if you're looking for similar "work"

Atmosphere??

Yes, game speed, game tempo, fresh ice, with referrees. Now it sounds like it wasn't a PP, but it was a PK. You can probably question the coaches judgement in that you don't want your star player to take a puck off of an ankle. But do you really think the coach sent out his star player on a penalty kill with the intention of racking up more points on the scoresheet.

What you're proposing, while a controlled scrimmage, is still practice. We're talking about practice. Not the game, not the game.....but practice. Any suggestion that a controlled scrimmage is better than a game is pure lunacy.

Sounds to me like you either have a dog in the fight or a similar situation happened to you during your last official high school game & have wanted to get something off of your chest for a long time.

[Hershaw09]

"Atmosphere" in this game..?

Tell the jv kids you're looking for kids that will step up next year and have a controlled scrimmage.... if you're looking for similar "work"

Atmosphere??

Yes, game speed, game tempo, fresh ice, with referrees. Now it sounds like it wasn't a PP, but it was a PK. You can probably question the coaches judgement in that you don't want your star player to take a puck off of an ankle. But do you really think the coach sent out his star player on a penalty kill with the intention of racking up more points on the scoresheet.

What you're proposing, while a controlled scrimmage, is still practice. We're talking about practice. Not the game, not the game.....but practice. Any suggestion that a controlled scrimmage is better than a game is pure lunacy.

Sounds to me like you either have a dog in the fight or a similar situation happened to you during your last official high school game & have wanted to get something off of your chest for a long time.

yes it was a PK, my bad on that one.

[Doc Holliday]

So SCC is up 9-0 with 7 mins left in the 2nd period. Mr Div 1 has points at:

10:30 assist
10:57 goal
13:11 assist
16:01 assist

Then start the 3rd period off with a goal as well. Is 12 points in a game a SCC school record? If so congrats.

At what point should he stop playing? If they scored 9 goals on their first 9 shots and it was 9-0 after the first 10 minutes of the first period, should he literally not see the ice for the remainder of the game?

[MrBoDangles]

"Atmosphere" in this game..?

Tell the jv kids you're looking for kids that will step up next year and have a controlled scrimmage.... if you're looking for similar "work"

Atmosphere??

Yes, game speed, game tempo, fresh ice, with referrees. Now it sounds like it wasn't a PP, but it was a PK. You can probably question the coaches judgement in that you don't want your star player to take a puck off of an ankle. But do you really think the coach sent out his star player on a penalty kill with the intention of racking up more points on the scoresheet.

What you're proposing, while a controlled scrimmage, is still practice. We're talking about practice. Not the game, not the game.....but practice. Any suggestion that a controlled scrimmage is better than a game is pure lunacy.

Sounds to me like you either have a dog in the fight or a similar situation happened to you during your last official high school game & have wanted to get something off of your chest for a long time.

You must feel backed up in a corner since you're getting so spastic.

I would have had my 3rd and 4th line play after the game was in hand... Probably the first or second goal in the 2nd. Instead, the coach had them go on the war path. Letting the kid rack up the 12 points was the real slap to the face.

We wouldn't be having this conversation if the coach had used some class.

[Duluth 4]

It's pretty simple, if you want the other team to stop scoring; stop them.

[GPGT]

Lots of whining and complaining going on here... Never give up, keep working hard the entire 51 minutes, letting off for sympathy is pathetic.. If you dont like getting blown out, then I guess quit the program, because I guess its not fair for #1 to show you why your #8 ?? Its a game.. A sport... If an olympian is running a mile and is 20 seconds ahead you think hes gonna coast to the finish?


Quit whining, enjoy the game, and let it be played how its supposed to be...


One that comes to mind tho is from 1995

Duluth East - 21
Duluth Marshall - 0

[Doc Holliday]

You must feel backed up in a corner since you're getting so spastic.

I would have had my 3rd and 4th line play after the game was in hand... Probably the first or second goal in the 2nd. Instead, the coach had them go on the war path. Letting the kid rack up the 12 points was the real slap to the face.

We wouldn't be having this conversation if the coach had used some class.

Nah, I'm cool.

So, in special teams situations, you would just have the 3rd & 4th liners just wing it? I'm not suggesting that you only have your top 2 PP & PK by any means. But shutting them down in the 2nd just because the outcome is more or less decided doesn't do your team any good.

I guess we just have different time periods when you can go into shutdown mode. You say early 2nd if out of hand. I say after 2 periods. You definitely play everyone in the 2nd period, but that also includes your 1st line. Like I said, if I was a coach, I would have been more concerned with putting him out there and he takes a shot in the ankle.

I also disagree; we wouldn't be having this conversation had Mora not given up a short handed goal.

[jeffpv]

It is very easy to keep a score under 12 or so.
I think once you pass the 12-0 threshold, you're starting to get into a pretty sketchy area. Especially bearing in mind that run time would kick in, as well.

I do feel bad for the kids on those teams who lose badly, but as another poster said: If you want them to stop scoring, stop them.

[MrBoDangles]

You must feel backed up in a corner since you're getting so spastic.

I would have had my 3rd and 4th line play after the game was in hand... Probably the first or second goal in the 2nd. Instead, the coach had them go on the war path. Letting the kid rack up the 12 points was the real slap to the face.

We wouldn't be having this conversation if the coach had used some class.

Nah, I'm cool.

So, in special teams situations, you would just have the 3rd & 4th liners just wing it? I'm not suggesting that you only have your top 2 PP & PK by any means. But shutting them down in the 2nd just because the outcome is more or less decided doesn't do your team any good.

I guess we just have different time periods when you can go into shutdown mode. You say early 2nd if out of hand. I say after 2 periods. You definitely play everyone in the 2nd period, but that also includes your 1st line. Like I said, if I was a coach, I would have been more concerned with putting him out there and he takes a shot in the ankle.

I also disagree; we wouldn't be having this conversation had Mora not given up a short handed goal.

I'm just saying I wouldn't let the game get to be 17-1 with my best player getting 12 points by playing in the 2nd and 3rd periods.

[GPGT]

You must feel backed up in a corner since you're getting so spastic.

I would have had my 3rd and 4th line play after the game was in hand... Probably the first or second goal in the 2nd. Instead, the coach had them go on the war path. Letting the kid rack up the 12 points was the real slap to the face.

We wouldn't be having this conversation if the coach had used some class.

Nah, I'm cool.

So, in special teams situations, you would just have the 3rd & 4th liners just wing it? I'm not suggesting that you only have your top 2 PP & PK by any means. But shutting them down in the 2nd just because the outcome is more or less decided doesn't do your team any good.

I guess we just have different time periods when you can go into shutdown mode. You say early 2nd if out of hand. I say after 2 periods. You definitely play everyone in the 2nd period, but that also includes your 1st line. Like I said, if I was a coach, I would have been more concerned with putting him out there and he takes a shot in the ankle.

I also disagree; we wouldn't be having this conversation had Mora not given up a short handed goal.

I'm just saying I wouldn't let the game get to be 17-1 with my best player getting 12 points by playing in the 2nd and 3rd periods.

well maybe you can go coach a team, and show them how to be sympathetic and caring for others feelings...???

[MrBoDangles]

Nah, I'm cool.

So, in special teams situations, you would just have the 3rd & 4th liners just wing it? I'm not suggesting that you only have your top 2 PP & PK by any means. But shutting them down in the 2nd just because the outcome is more or less decided doesn't do your team any good.

I guess we just have different time periods when you can go into shutdown mode. You say early 2nd if out of hand. I say after 2 periods. You definitely play everyone in the 2nd period, but that also includes your 1st line. Like I said, if I was a coach, I would have been more concerned with putting him out there and he takes a shot in the ankle.

I also disagree; we wouldn't be having this conversation had Mora not given up a short handed goal.

I'm just saying I wouldn't let the game get to be 17-1 with my best player getting 12 points by playing in the 2nd and 3rd periods.

well maybe you can go coach a team, and show them how to be sympathetic and caring for others feelings...???

Maybe SCC will be hiring....?

Back to the top!

[Mite-dad]

Lots of whining and complaining going on here... Never give up, keep working hard the entire 51 minutes, letting off for sympathy is pathetic.. If you dont like getting blown out, then I guess quit the program, because I guess its not fair for #1 to show you why your #8 ?? Its a game.. A sport... If an olympian is running a mile and is 20 seconds ahead you think hes gonna coast to the finish?


Quit whining, enjoy the game, and let it be played how its supposed to be...


One that comes to mind tho is from 1995

Duluth East - 21
Duluth Marshall - 0

Wow! How many did Spehar and Locker have?

[thebluemamba]

It was a playoff game. The most important time of the season. Would you rather have your team make your opponent feel better about themselves and not run up the score, or prepare your team for a possible state tournament? If anyone picked the first option you obviously aren't that competitive

[orm1210]

Once it gets to 10-0 they might as well just call the game off...

You cant just sit your top two lines because its over early in the first. you need to keep playing all four lines so that the kids stay focused for their next game that is typically only 48 hours away. I understand the score is ugly, but teams on the losing end have to understand that you cant expect them to just lay down and stop, not in the playoffs. regular season yes, but playoffs no. And its hard to change systems or just pass it around because believe it or not, bad habits can carry over from one game to the next.

One thing that needs to happen in these games is, although I am sure the refs try their hardest, but when its in run time, blow your whistle as much as possible. Tighten up on the penalty calls, icings, take their time at facoffs. This will help coaches in having to make a decision on what to do.

In my opinion, this is just something that we all need to get used to. its been a reoccuring theme for a long time. once playoffs come, top tier teams are not just going to lay down against an inferior opponent.

[MHGr8ness]

MHGr8ness - So what are they supposed to do? Funny, I didn't see a similar post after Duluth East's 15-0 win over STMA.

Duluth East spread it out much better. Their leading scorer had 7 in the game, which is about half of 12. He also did get a point in the 3rd.

[GPGT]

Lots of whining and complaining going on here... Never give up, keep working hard the entire 51 minutes, letting off for sympathy is pathetic.. If you dont like getting blown out, then I guess quit the program, because I guess its not fair for #1 to show you why your #8 ?? Its a game.. A sport... If an olympian is running a mile and is 20 seconds ahead you think hes gonna coast to the finish?


Quit whining, enjoy the game, and let it be played how its supposed to be...


One that comes to mind tho is from 1995

Duluth East - 21
Duluth Marshall - 0

Wow! How many did Spehar and Locker have?

Not nearly as many as they could have had

[MrBoDangles]

Once it gets to 10-0 they might as well just call the game off...

You cant just sit your top two lines because its over early in the first. you need to keep playing all four lines so that the kids stay focused for their next game that is typically only 48 hours away. I understand the score is ugly, but teams on the losing end have to understand that you cant expect them to just lay down and stop, not in the playoffs. regular season yes, but playoffs no. And its hard to change systems or just pass it around because believe it or not, bad habits can carry over from one game to the next.

One thing that needs to happen in these games is, although I am sure the refs try their hardest, but when its in run time, blow your whistle as much as possible. Tighten up on the penalty calls, icings, take their time at facoffs. This will help coaches in having to make a decision on what to do.

In my opinion, this is just something that we all need to get used to. its been a reoccuring theme for a long time. once playoffs come, top tier teams are not just going to lay down against an inferior opponent.

No. You should pull way back being up 9-0 with the game more than half over. The player rattled off five more points after that time. I don't buy into that needing a little over a period to keep the players fresh for the next game that is 48hrs away.

Blame it on the refs to give the coach time to make a smart choice..?

[MHGr8ness]

12 points? Was the coach blind to this?

They've played enough Hockey in their young lives were the coach can have the first and second lines sit for two periods.

Classless coach.

Agreed, I don't think most of you are getting the point.
Just keep the 1st & 2nd lines off.
No passing around.
The 3rd & 4th lines can shoot all they want.

Anyway, each coach to his own, I guess.

I like this.

[MHGr8ness]

Cathedral wins 17-1. Had a kid with 12 points in the game, including a goal in the 3rd to make it 15-0. Why is he still playing at that point? Call off the dogs already. I hope Hermantown beats them, although I'm hoping Princeton doesn't even let Hermantown get the chance.

like it was said before, being skated around and passed around for 20 minutes would be way worse. the only reason first line was out there in the third was because it was a PP and that can always be practiced (otherwise most of first and second line were on the bench). also note that two kids got their first varsity goals and one got his first point with an assist.

Oh yeah I'm glad they practiced their PP. The Mora PK or PP (especially when they're down 14-0) is known for being one of the best in the state. Doesn't matter who had the man advantage, the point is still the same....there's no way Mora's special teams (especially when half their careers are over and losing by 14) is in the ballpark of a Hermantown PP or PK. Why is Poganski killing at this stage of the game anyway? Blocking shots to preserve the shutout? Good way to lose your top player when you need him most. I'm sure that Cathedral got a lot better by playing their top unit in this scenario. By winning by 16 as opposed to say 8, they're now practiced up and good enough to win the section.

[pekyman]

SCC goalie/defense must not be very strong as Mora got 1 by them.

[MHGr8ness]

Aside from MHGr8ness' obvious hatred for Cathedral...I've got my biased 2cents to toss into the hat...

1. This Cathedral team was just subject to a lower seed in the section as a result of not beating teams badly enough in the regular season. If they had beaten Mora 17-1 instead of 11-4 and Sauk Rapids 10-0 instead of 6-0 in the regular season they would have gotten a #1 seed (according to other coaches in the section, FACT).

2. Poganski's goal in the third period was a SHORT-HANDED goal 30 seconds into the third period...the third and fourth line played the last 15 minutes of the period.

3. Nine different players scored goals, including two first career goals.

I understand MHGr8ness has a pure hatred for Cathedral, read his past posts. But at least have arguments grounded in fact if you're going to put a historically very classy coach on blast on a message board.

I didn't hear any complaints when Mora beat Moose Lake 13-0 earlier this year...don't see any relevance now.

Are you really using Moose Lake as an example? Ha EVERYONE blew out Moose Lake this year. Cathedral scored more goals in this game than Moose Lake did all year. 17>16. Also in that game Mora's top scorer only had 6 points (half of the Cathedral allstar). Not like they have a 3rd or 4th line to play more anyway.

[justme]

Maybe SCC should of switched from left hand to right handed shooting, or right handed to left handed shooting. Or maybe turned there sticks so that there playing with the butt end of the stick. These kinds of scores happen all the time in all sports. In the pro's baseball teams score 26 runs. It happens like or not.

[EHSHack]

12 points? Was the coach blind to this?

They've played enough Hockey in their young lives were the coach can have the first and second lines sit for two periods.

Classless coach.

If I am a senior playing the last games of my career I would be absolutely livid if I was benched for two periods because we were "too good" for the other team to handle. Maybe instead of making people pass how about institute a "No Pass" rule? If you are going to score you have to go coast to coast. Would make it harder.