Private School Trash talk thread

[UntouchableFlow]

Todays STA game was proof that select teams dont belong in "A" - don't belong in "AA" and dont belong in the MSHSL. Take Hill and the other privates and go somewhere else. A game is suppose to be fun. The whole bunch of 'em takes fun out of the game. Choke on your trophys and get out.

Wah, wah, wah, Tartan lost to a public school this year in sections, should they leave too? Give me a break....

[Neuuman]

A cross-section of some stats from the season:

STA vs. MTKA - 1-3 (L)
STA vs. Hill Murray - 2-1 (W)
STA vs. Edina - 2-1 (W)
STA vs. Hill Murray - 3-3 (T)
STA vs. Benilde SM - 3-1 (W)
STA vs. Shattuck 3-2 (W)
STA vs. Hill Murray - 1-3 (L)

Record against the very best teams in AA - 3-2-1
Record against Shattuck - 1-0.


STA playoff stats in class "A":

Against whoever - 5-0
Goals for vs. Goals against - 41-0

I just hope STA can overcome the enormous hurdle they'll have to face in the championship game to win the class "A" title.

Do you think, maybe, some or ALL of the players on STA might want to be in the class "AA" bracket?

Maybe it's just me, but I'd rather be on the losing end in a 4-3 class "AA" championship game rather than winning a state class "A" title by a score of 10-1 against a lesser opponent.

I don't think this is what the Minnesota State High School League had in mind when they went to two classes.

IMHO

[dlow]

Could you push teams up to AA by saying no non conference games outside your class. If you want to play the top teams you gotta do it at the end of the year too.

[thorhockey]

Wah, wah, wah, Tartan lost to a public school this year in sections, should they leave too? Give me a break....

Has nothing to do with Tartan, never did. At least their loss to lower seeded public schools in the playoffs is the purity of the sport. Never bothered me. Hats off to them. Privates ruin the purity and fun of the sport, People like you, and private school defenders, just end up perpetuating the lies and poor excuses of why privates belong in this great sport.

[thestickler07]

Has nothing to do with Tartan, never did. At least their loss to lower seeded public schools in the playoffs is the purity of the sport. Never bothered me. Hats off to them. Privates ruin the purity and fun of the sport, People like you, and private school defenders, just end up perpetuating the lies and poor excuses of why privates belong in this great sport.

Bruh, why you so mad?

[thorhockey]

Bruh, why you so mad?

aint this the trash talk thread?? very therapeutic - you gotta try it. All other problems go away (at least for a couple minutes)

[thestickler07]

aint this the trash talk thread?? very therapeutic - you gotta try it. All other problems go away (at least for a couple minutes)

Yea it is. But the point of trash talk is to make the other person look like a chump instead of yourself.

[thorhockey]

Fair enough, but then you should start a "thorhockey is a chump" thread

[dherman8]

I like your thought process thor.

[dherman8]

This is the private trash talk thread. Some folks are just having a hard time comprehending it.

[mackjogger]

it is absoulty absurd that the privates play in AA or A.


NEW ENGLAND PREP LEAGUE exists for the exact same reason.

U want to build a team of students from all over the state or region, play in a league with like minded institutions.

Then let AA and A publics compete according to student populaton.

Now its a level field.

[thorhockey]

What? No hockey hair Hill? Keep your hats on boys - no concussions before the game haha

[WarmUpTheBus]

Wah, wah, wah, Tartan lost to a public school this year in sections, should they leave too? Give me a break....

Has nothing to do with Tartan, never did. At least their loss to lower seeded public schools in the playoffs is the purity of the sport. Never bothered me. Hats off to them. Privates ruin the purity and fun of the sport, People like you, and private school defenders, just end up perpetuating the lies and poor excuses of why privates belong in this great sport.

"Purity". Ha ha ha ! That's a good one.

[thorhockey]

Get your Trojan on. Stick it to the private

[dherman8]

Purity doesn't exist when privates are involved.

[394 West]

Purity doesn't exist when privates are involved.

Why not..... check he rosters. Wayzata's Wahlin played at Hopkins last year. Edinas Hurley has a traveling bus on and on with other players.

[stpaul]

it is absoulty absurd that the privates play in AA or A.


NEW ENGLAND PREP LEAGUE exists for the exact same reason.

U want to build a team of students from all over the state or region, play in a league with like minded institutions.

Then let AA and A publics compete according to student populaton.

Now its a level field.

Here's the problem with your example - Private Catholic schools still completely dominate Massachusetts high school hockey.

[HShockeywatcher]

Attendance for Class A isn't low because the schools are from small towns. Attendance is low because people without connections to the schools involved don't find the games interesting. It's not just competitive games people want, they want to see the best teams in the state playing.

While this may be the main reason, there is definitely a disregard for Class A and private schools in general. More people attend some of the worse AA match ups than some of the good Class A match ups that legitimately have top end teams in them.

it is absoulty absurd that the privates play in AA or A.


NEW ENGLAND PREP LEAGUE exists for the exact same reason.

U want to build a team of students from all over the state or region, play in a league with like minded institutions.

Then let AA and A publics compete according to student populaton.

Now its a level field.

These comments are thrown around a lot, but I doubt many (even those at private schools who enjoy MN sports how they are) would like the result of giving private schools their own league. It would forever change the greatest state tournament in the country, and quite possibly in a very bad way.

There are many who would leave anyway, but there are many who wouldn't have. Work at fixing why kids are leaving and less will leave.

[sachishi4]

Wah, wah, wah, Tartan lost to a public school this year in sections, should they leave too? Give me a break....

Has nothing to do with Tartan, never did. At least their loss to lower seeded public schools in the playoffs is the purity of the sport. Never bothered me. Hats off to them. Privates ruin the purity and fun of the sport, People like you, and private school defenders, just end up perpetuating the lies and poor excuses of why privates belong in this great sport.

Then what does open enrollment do?

[Ogie]

it is absoulty absurd that the privates play in AA or A.


NEW ENGLAND PREP LEAGUE exists for the exact same reason.

U want to build a team of students from all over the state or region, play in a league with like minded institutions.

Then let AA and A publics compete according to student populaton.

Now its a level field.

Here's the problem with your example - Private Catholic schools still completely dominate Massachusetts high school hockey.

That and we have sections that cover more real estate than the entire state of Mass.

[HShockeywatcher]

Public or private, to what extent does the class a school plays hockey in actually factor into the decision of an 8th grader and his parents on where to attend high school?

This gets brought up a decent amount, and I'm curious what people have seen and what effect it has had on decisions.

[MrBoDangles]

Public or private, to what extent does the class a school plays hockey in actually factor into the decision of an 8th grader and his parents on where to attend high school?

This gets brought up a decent amount, and I'm curious what people have seen and what effect it has had on decisions.

There's a draw to be in the state tournament that you don't seem to know about.

STA was able to recruit these kids buy building a nice rink and giving them easy odds to make it to the tournament.. It was a stunner when Mahtomedi was able to get past them a couple times.

STA should be put in 4AA so that the mirage will go away...

[HShockeywatcher]

http://www.mnhockeyhub.com/news_article ... r_id=32770

Interesting article with opinions from Hermantown's coach. Couple excerpts:

-“It’s sad because some of these teams down here, they groom this kid, he’s their best player, they got a chance to do something, he bolts,” Plante said. “What does that do to that program? It kills them.”

-Plante said Jon Francisco and B.J. Radovich, Hawks standouts from the early 2000s, helped build the foundation of Hermantown’s model program. The Hawks rarely lose players because of transfers to other schools or early departures to junior leagues, in part because those early stars decided to stay.

So, unless I'm missing something from what he's saying, it seems that Mr. Plante and I are in total agreement with what is going on. Students are leaving their "home community" because something is lacking and being attracted to other schools, public and private.

Public or private, to what extent does the class a school plays hockey in actually factor into the decision of an 8th grader and his parents on where to attend high school?

This gets brought up a decent amount, and I'm curious what people have seen and what effect it has had on decisions.

There's a draw to be in the state tournament that you don't seem to know about.

STA was able to recruit these kids buy building a nice rink and giving them easy odds to make it to the tournament.. It was a stunner when Mahtomedi was able to get past them a couple times.

STA should be put in 4AA so that the mirage will go away...

It's interesting that every question somehow turns around into "bash STA."

So, are you saying moving to AA could potentially hurt the ability to attract quality players? Interesting.

[northwoods oldtimer]

Public or private, to what extent does the class a school plays hockey in actually factor into the decision of an 8th grader and his parents on where to attend high school?

This gets brought up a decent amount, and I'm curious what people have seen and what effect it has had on decisions.

There's a draw to be in the state tournament that you don't seem to know about.

STA was able to recruit these kids buy building a nice rink and giving them easy odds to make it to the tournament.. It was a stunner when Mahtomedi was able to get past them a couple times.

STA should be put in 4AA so that the mirage will go away...

You nailed it Bro 4AA all the way! This section locating of STA will get more backroom politicking than a Teamsters deal.....stay tuned folks.

[hockey59]

Public or private, to what extent does the class a school plays hockey in actually factor into the decision of an 8th grader and his parents on where to attend high school?

This gets brought up a decent amount, and I'm curious what people have seen and what effect it has had on decisions.

There's a draw to be in the state tournament that you don't seem to know about.

STA was able to recruit these kids buy building a nice rink and giving them easy odds to make it to the tournament.. It was a stunner when Mahtomedi was able to get past them a couple times.

STA should be put in 4AA so that the mirage will go away...

You nailed it Bro 4AA all the way! This section locating of STA will get more backroom politicking than a Teamsters deal.....stay tuned folks.

Much to the chagrin of those in 3AA..that's where STA will most likely land. It won't be 1AA b/c a SM team (Rochester area HS) at least should have a shot of making AA State...and Lakeville N & S folks would also howl uncontrollably...won't be 2AA (too loaded aready with Edina, Burnsville, Jefferson and RISING POWER Prior Lake/Savage...could be 4AA, but I highly doubt the MSHSL would be OK with EITHER Hill or STA not making State EVERY YEAR...and makes no geographical sense anywhere else.

Hey, at least STA will guit making a MOCKERY of Class A...fact is the 2011-2012 EGF Bantam A team (prior to AA and A Bantam being established for 2012-2013) finished 2nd at BANTAM A STATE (to Edina last March)...then many of the young guys from that team play varsity this year for EGF...and get destroyed like what? 11-0 by the SE metro all-star team (AKA - STA)?

Just glad STA will be playing AA going forward...like BSM and HM...where
they belong (hopefully Breck is next in a couple years).