Who's Not Returning 2013-2014

The Exiled One · Post by **The Exiled One** » Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:50 am

BUMP

Class Pos Player           HS Team             New Team          College
So    F   Jared Mickelson  St. Paul Academy     Omaha-AAA
Jr    F   Shane Gersich    Holy Family          NTDP              North Dakota
Jr    F   David Brumm      Maple Grove          Omaha-AAA
Jr    F   Dylan Michaud    Cloquet/Esko/Carlton Omaha-AAA
Sr    F   Westin Michaud   Cloquet/Esko/Carlton NAHL
Sr    F   Jack Ramsey      Minnetonka           Penticton-BCHL    Minnesota
Sr    F   Karson Kuhlman   Cloquet              Dubuque-USHL      Minnesota-Duluth
Sr    F   Austin Poganski  St. Cloud Cathedral  Tri-City-USHL     North Dakota
Sr    F   *Avery Peterson  Grand Rapids         Sioux City-USHL
Sr    F   Connor Hurley    Edina                Muskegon-USHL     Notre Dame
Jr    D   Nick Heid        Spring Lake Park     Omaha-AAA
Sr    D   Logan Von Ruden  Northfield           Minnesota-NAHL
Sr    D   Alex Fredberg    Irondale             Minnesota-NAHL
Sr    D   Hunter Warner    Eden Prairie         Waterloo-USHL     Minnesota State - Mankato
Sr    D   Teemu Kivihalme  Burnsville           Fargo-USHL        Colorado College
Sr    D   Jack Dougherty   St. Thomas           NTDP
Sr    D   Cole Bjugson     Roseau               Fargo-USHL
Sr    D   Blake Hillman    Elk River            Dubuque-USHL
Sr    D   Neal Pionk       Hermantown           Sioux City-USHL   Minnesota-Duluth
Jr    G   Jake Kielly      Eden Prairie         Victory Honda-AAA

Bleed Maroon and Gold · Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:22 pm

Alex Fredberg from Irondale SR is not coming back he will be playing for the MN Wilderness in the NAHL next season.

WarmUpTheBus · Post by **WarmUpTheBus** » Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:58 pm

The Exiled One wrote:BUMP

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Class Pos Player           HS Team             New Team          College
Jr    F   Shane Gersich    Holy Family         NTDP              North Dakota
Sr    F   Jack Ramsey      Minnetonka          Penticton-BCHL    Minnesota
Sr    F   Karson Kuhlman   Cloquet             Dubuque-USHL      Minnesota-Duluth
Sr    F   Austin Poganski  St. Cloud Cathedral Tri-City-USHL     North Dakota
Sr    F   *Avery Peterson  Grand Rapids        Sioux City-USHL
Sr    F   Connor Hurley    Edina               Muskegon-USHL     Notre Dame
Sr    D   Alex Fredberg    Irondale            Minnesota-NAHL
Sr    D   Hunter Warner    Eden Prairie        Waterloo-USHL     Minnesota State - Mankato
Sr    D   Teemu Kivihalme  Burnsville          Fargo-USHL        Colorado College
Sr    D   Jack Dougherty   St. Thomas          NTDP
Sr    D   Cole Bjugson     Roseau              Fargo-USHL
Sr    D   Blake Hillman    Elk River           Dubuque-USHL
Sr    D   Neal Pionk       Hermantown          Sioux City-USHL   Minnesota-Duluth
Jr    G   Jake Kielly      Eden Prairie        Victory Honda-AAA

Are we sure Kivihalme isn't a before and after? Would seem its a possibility since dad is the coach.

BP · Post by BP » Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:57 am

WarmUpTheBus wrote:

The Exiled One wrote:BUMP

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Class Pos Player           HS Team             New Team          College
Jr    F   Shane Gersich    Holy Family         NTDP              North Dakota
Sr    F   Jack Ramsey      Minnetonka          Penticton-BCHL    Minnesota
Sr    F   Karson Kuhlman   Cloquet             Dubuque-USHL      Minnesota-Duluth
Sr    F   Austin Poganski  St. Cloud Cathedral Tri-City-USHL     North Dakota
Sr    F   *Avery Peterson  Grand Rapids        Sioux City-USHL
Sr    F   Connor Hurley    Edina               Muskegon-USHL     Notre Dame
Sr    D   Alex Fredberg    Irondale            Minnesota-NAHL
Sr    D   Hunter Warner    Eden Prairie        Waterloo-USHL     Minnesota State - Mankato
Sr    D   Teemu Kivihalme  Burnsville          Fargo-USHL        Colorado College
Sr    D   Jack Dougherty   St. Thomas          NTDP
Sr    D   Cole Bjugson     Roseau              Fargo-USHL
Sr    D   Blake Hillman    Elk River           Dubuque-USHL
Sr    D   Neal Pionk       Hermantown          Sioux City-USHL   Minnesota-Duluth
Jr    G   Jake Kielly      Eden Prairie        Victory Honda-AAA

Are we sure Kivihalme isn't a before and after? Would seem its a possibility since dad is the coach.

It is confirmed from Janne that he is officially gone for the whole season

The Exiled One · Post by **The Exiled One** » Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:02 am

WarmUpTheBus wrote:Are we sure Kivihalme isn't a before and after? Would seem its a possibility since dad is the coach.

Same was said for Paul Bittner. I don't think that's much of a consideration these days.

Ready2GoYet · Post by **Ready2GoYet** » Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:11 am

Logan Von Ruden, D-Sr. from Northfield going to play for the Magicians.

http://www.southernminn.com/northfield_ ... dfbf7.html

WarmUpTheBus · Post by **WarmUpTheBus** » Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:26 pm

BP wrote:

WarmUpTheBus wrote:

The Exiled One wrote:BUMP

Code: Select all

Class Pos Player           HS Team             New Team          College
Jr    F   Shane Gersich    Holy Family         NTDP              North Dakota
Sr    F   Jack Ramsey      Minnetonka          Penticton-BCHL    Minnesota
Sr    F   Karson Kuhlman   Cloquet             Dubuque-USHL      Minnesota-Duluth
Sr    F   Austin Poganski  St. Cloud Cathedral Tri-City-USHL     North Dakota
Sr    F   *Avery Peterson  Grand Rapids        Sioux City-USHL
Sr    F   Connor Hurley    Edina               Muskegon-USHL     Notre Dame
Sr    D   Alex Fredberg    Irondale            Minnesota-NAHL
Sr    D   Hunter Warner    Eden Prairie        Waterloo-USHL     Minnesota State - Mankato
Sr    D   Teemu Kivihalme  Burnsville          Fargo-USHL        Colorado College
Sr    D   Jack Dougherty   St. Thomas          NTDP
Sr    D   Cole Bjugson     Roseau              Fargo-USHL
Sr    D   Blake Hillman    Elk River           Dubuque-USHL
Sr    D   Neal Pionk       Hermantown          Sioux City-USHL   Minnesota-Duluth
Jr    G   Jake Kielly      Eden Prairie        Victory Honda-AAA

Are we sure Kivihalme isn't a before and after? Would seem its a possibility since dad is the coach.

It is confirmed from Janne that he is officially gone for the whole season

Thanks.

herbst20 · Post by **herbst20** » Sun Aug 11, 2013 3:23 pm

David Brumm '97 from Maple Grove is heading to play for Omaha AAA this year

rorjac1967 · Post by **rorjac1967** » Sun Aug 11, 2013 7:24 pm

herbst20 wrote:David Brumm '97 from Maple Grove is heading to play for Omaha AAA this year

Also leaving for Omaha U16 are:
'98 Cole Weaver
'97 Nick Heid
'97 Jared Mickelson
'97 Luke Osterman
'97 Matt Pulver

thespellchecker · Post by **thespellchecker** » Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:34 pm

rorjac1967 wrote:
herbst20 wrote:David Brumm '97 from Maple Grove is heading to play for Omaha AAA this year
Also leaving for Omaha U16 are:
'98 Cole Weaver
'97 Nick Heid
'97 Jared Mickelson
'97 Luke Osterman
'97 Matt Pulver

What high school teams will they not be returning too?

SuperStar · Post by **SuperStar** » Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:45 am

rorjac1967 wrote:
herbst20 wrote:David Brumm '97 from Maple Grove is heading to play for Omaha AAA this year
Also leaving for Omaha U16 are:
'98 Cole Weaver
'97 Nick Heid
'97 Jared Mickelson
'97 Luke Osterman
'97 Matt Pulver

After a quick google check.

Nick Heid - Played at Spring Lake Park HS
Jared Mickelson - Played at SPA HS
Luke Osterman - Played at Stillwater HS for 3 games

Cole Weaver - He was with Russell Stover via Champlin Park
Matt Pulver - Wisconsin kid I believe - Regis/McDonnell/Bloomer HS

please correct if wrong

The Exiled One · Post by **The Exiled One** » Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:40 am

Brumm, Mickelson, and Heid have been added. Weaver and Pulver didn't play MSHSL last year. Osterman wasn't listed on mnhockeyhub as having played for Stillwater, but even if he had dressed for three games, that's hardly a loss for MSHSL... so I didn't add him.

Thanks all for the updates.

oldschoolpuckster · Post by **oldschoolpuckster** » Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:17 pm

Just heard from a buddy in B'ville that Tyler Sheehy is now leaving for Waterloo this season.

preferhockey · Post by **preferhockey** » Mon Aug 12, 2013 1:49 pm

Kids all living the dream. Too bad for most this is where it ends....

stromboli · Post by **stromboli** » Mon Aug 12, 2013 2:15 pm

preferhockey wrote:Kids all living the dream. Too bad for most this is where it ends....

For the kids who are slated to play USHL and NDTP, it seems more likey that "most" of those kids will keep on living the dream at least through college.

SuperStar · Post by **SuperStar** » Mon Aug 12, 2013 3:18 pm

Dont want to get off topic too much but - I came across this and it was pretty interesting:

"Over 200 players are selected at every NHL draft. How many of them go on to have NHL careers? What are the prospects for a player selected in the first round of the NHL Draft compared to later rounds?
Answer: To properly evaluate a draft, you need a few year's distance from it. So let's look at the 1990s.

To define whether a player "makes it," let's set the threshold at 200 NHL games. We'll call them "career players."

Between 1990 and 1999, there were 2,600 names called at the NHL Entry Draft.

As of 2007, 494 of those players have appeared in at least 200 NHL games. That's a success rate of 19 percent.

But of course, not all draft picks are created equal. The guys picked in the first round are a cut above the rest:

Success rate of first-round draft picks

Of the 494 career players drafted in the 1990s, 160 were selected in the first round.
Of those 160 career players, over half have played more than 500 NHL games.
Among the older players (those drafted from 1990 to 1994), six first-round picks have made it to 1,000 games. Another couple of dozen are still active and within reach of 1,000.
Based on the 1990s sample, a first-round draft pick has a 63 percent chance of being a career player.

Results can vary widely from year to year:
The 1993 NHL Draft produced 22 career players from 26 first-round picks.
In 1999, less than half of the first-round selections went on to become career players (12 out of 28).

Beyond the first round.

This is where the NHL dream begins to fade in a hurry:
From 1990 to 1999, about one-quarter of the players selected in the second round turned into NHL career players.

Those drafted in the third round and beyond are really up against it.
From over 2,000 players selected in the third round and beyond during 1990s, just 261 made it as NHL career players. That's about 12 percent"

http://proicehockey.about.com/od/prospe ... uccess.htm

MrBoDangles · Post by **MrBoDangles** » Mon Aug 12, 2013 3:48 pm

And Spring Lake Park would have been the overwhelming favorites to go to the X this year in their new section... Must have figured the Backes way was the wrong way...

rudy · Post by **rudy** » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:01 pm

and how do you figure in the UFAs that don't get drafted at all? It's hard to define a pool, then assign it a rate of success. first, you need to throw out every draft choice who chose not to pursue a career in the NHL. yes, there are some. More in the past 10 years or so, with Euro players taking up more draft spots.

also, remember to toss out all the draft choices that couldn't pursue an nhl career because of injury. it wouldn't be a huge number, but it still chips away at the overall pool of players that are trying to be analyzed.

The Exiled One · Post by **The Exiled One** » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:16 pm

rudy wrote:and how do you figure in the UFAs that don't get drafted at all? It's hard to define a pool, then assign it a rate of success. first, you need to throw out every draft choice who chose not to pursue a career in the NHL. yes, there are some. More in the past 10 years or so, with Euro players taking up more draft spots.

also, remember to toss out all the draft choices that couldn't pursue an nhl career because of injury. it wouldn't be a huge number, but it still chips away at the overall pool of players that are trying to be analyzed.

Yeah, this is pretty off topic. Most of these kids aren't doing this to reach the NHL, they're doing it to prepare for college or to earn a college scholarship (with a handful of exceptions).

gopherpuck516 · Post by **gopherpuck516** » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:17 pm

Rudy - if all this draft picks that didn't make it in the NHL had even a 10th of the amount of heart you had they'd all be in the Hall of Fame!

You can't take out the injury factor, though, because that's just one of the many reasons players drafted at 18 years old don't succeed at the highest level when it all shakes out.

Back to the original subject, good luck to all the players no matter what decision they make on where they will play. Bummed to hear about Sheehy, will make it that much more difficult for the Blaze to knock off Edina this year...

The Exiled One · Post by **The Exiled One** » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:17 pm

oldschoolpuckster wrote:Just heard from a buddy in B'ville that Tyler Sheehy is now leaving for Waterloo this season.

So he won't be in the Elite League?

Hockey guy1486 · Post by **Hockey guy1486** » Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:16 pm

Well I talked to my 3rd cousin from Saskatchewan, who talked to Sheehy's Grandmas neighbor, who saw his 4th grade teacher's uncles hair stylest........they said he is staying!

RogerDodger · Post by **RogerDodger** » Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:02 pm

herbst20 wrote:David Brumm '97 from Maple Grove is heading to play for Omaha AAA this year

To play U16s (97s and 98s). Really??? Didn't he play starting Varsity last year? Why the step backwards? To build stats?

oldschoolpuckster · Post by **oldschoolpuckster** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:08 pm

Hockey guy1486 wrote:Well I talked to my 3rd cousin from Saskatchewan, who talked to Sheehy's Grandmas neighbor, who saw his 4th grade teacher's uncles hair stylest........they said he is staying!

You are dumb...

Post by **east hockey** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:10 pm

oldschoolpuckster wrote:
Hockey guy1486 wrote:Well I talked to my 3rd cousin from Saskatchewan, who talked to Sheehy's Grandmas neighbor, who saw his 4th grade teacher's uncles hair stylest........they said he is staying!
You are dumb...

And his point went completely over your head.

Lee

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