Thoroughbreds barely hanging on?
Moderators: Mitch Hawker, east hockey, karl(east)
Great history lesson. Things change I get it. What point are you trying to make? Our numbers are down, but so are they elsewhere. Yes we all know you love the High School system, more power to you. We do not, thats why we play Throughbreds. How in anyway does that effect you? Achiever Academy is the real threat to your system. The Thoroughbreds will continue and the girls playing will get better and form a real bond as teammates and friends. On the weekend after Thanksgiving we are hosting a tournament at Highland arena with 16 teams from all over North America, why don't you come and watch its free.
The T-Breds aren't "hanging on" in a negative way. They have plenty of talent and play hard. Unfortunately, a short bench will catch up with you when you play 20 minute periods at the pace of the JWHL.
As has been noted, the dynamics of the sport have changed over the last five years or so. In Minnesota the fall elite league now gains players exposure above that which they really only got during the summer "AAA" season. However, the numbers of players moving on to D1 has remained consistent (roughly 35 a year), even with the addition of several new programs in D1.
The T-Breds exist as an option for players who need to develop their game, and/or don't have solid options in their area. The T-Breds joined the JWHL because of the level of play and exposure offered to colleges, particularly those in the East.
As I said, things have changed, and there are now a lot of very talented players in non-traditional areas. To boost their numbers in the coming years the T-Breds may need to adjust their model some, and recruit well outside of the upper mid-west, as do all of the other teams in the JWHL.
There is a ton of talent in the US, Canada, and abroad looking for places to play so as to elevate their game and gain exposure. While the cost may seem prohibitive to some, there are plenty of people who are willing to pay the freight, particularly since it is well below the cost of private schooling or on par with the typical expense incurred for tuition and travel (player and parent driving, flying, hotel, food etc) as part of a AAA team in other parts of North America. (Most of you Minny folks take for granted just how good you have it with a pretty compact footprint for the bulk of your season.)
This coming weekend the Thoroughbreds will be playing in Syracuse, which is centrally located to dozens of college programs. There will be many college coaches in attendance. While they may tail off some over the last 20 minutes, and regardless of their record T-Bred players will be noticed, and next year they will be playing on college teams across the country.
As has been noted, the dynamics of the sport have changed over the last five years or so. In Minnesota the fall elite league now gains players exposure above that which they really only got during the summer "AAA" season. However, the numbers of players moving on to D1 has remained consistent (roughly 35 a year), even with the addition of several new programs in D1.
The T-Breds exist as an option for players who need to develop their game, and/or don't have solid options in their area. The T-Breds joined the JWHL because of the level of play and exposure offered to colleges, particularly those in the East.
As I said, things have changed, and there are now a lot of very talented players in non-traditional areas. To boost their numbers in the coming years the T-Breds may need to adjust their model some, and recruit well outside of the upper mid-west, as do all of the other teams in the JWHL.
There is a ton of talent in the US, Canada, and abroad looking for places to play so as to elevate their game and gain exposure. While the cost may seem prohibitive to some, there are plenty of people who are willing to pay the freight, particularly since it is well below the cost of private schooling or on par with the typical expense incurred for tuition and travel (player and parent driving, flying, hotel, food etc) as part of a AAA team in other parts of North America. (Most of you Minny folks take for granted just how good you have it with a pretty compact footprint for the bulk of your season.)
This coming weekend the Thoroughbreds will be playing in Syracuse, which is centrally located to dozens of college programs. There will be many college coaches in attendance. While they may tail off some over the last 20 minutes, and regardless of their record T-Bred players will be noticed, and next year they will be playing on college teams across the country.
Thanks Hux for the post. Just an update, we have added 4 players and 2 will be in Syracuse this weekend. Earlier in the month at Albany NY we played well and had a great game against Washington Pride (won 2 to 1) with our 9 players. The new players will help greatly. Remember our Thanksgiving tournment starts next Friday at Highland. 16 teams, food, free addmission and losts of fun.
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Website?
Where can we see an updated roster and calendar?
And sorry if this is a stupid question but I'm not too familiar with how the JWHL works on the girls side. Are these high school students foregoing their MSHL eligibility to play for you? Or 2013 grads playing nationally for a year before college because they weren't scouted as hs students or wanted a chance to increase their options?
And sorry if this is a stupid question but I'm not too familiar with how the JWHL works on the girls side. Are these high school students foregoing their MSHL eligibility to play for you? Or 2013 grads playing nationally for a year before college because they weren't scouted as hs students or wanted a chance to increase their options?
No question is stupid. Our schedule is up to date, Our roster on the website is not. A volunteer does our website, so its not updated regularly. Yes the girls give up their MSHL eligibility. They don't play for me , I am a parent. My oldest played years ago with the Thoroughbreds as well as my youngest now. We don't recruite, the players find us. Several girls give it a try routinely with no strings, most enjoy the level of play and coaching and are willing to go through the 2 week tryout process. Each player has different reasons to join the team, and we don't care what they are as long as they are there to give 100%. Having 2 D1 scouts as well as 1 D3 scout at our practices every now and then also helps. Hope you attend our tournement, it will be fun.
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http://www.mnthoroughbreds.com/history.htm. Sorry its not current. My daughter played for UMD. Marci Bydlon is the HC and has coached girls for many years, all way back to the first year of CODP.
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History & College PlayersNevertoomuchhockey wrote:Can you answer the question about where the girls have gone on to play D1 or D3? Maybe back to when ur oldest played? And will share where they would have played?
And who is the HC? Your name misled me. Thx
2012 - 2013........4-45-2
College Bound - Lauren Wedell (Boston College), Savannah Seeger (Augsburg College), Kelsey Lyngdal (Augsburg College),
Halie Gudmonson (Gustavus Adolphus College), Sydney Macaulay, (St. Kate's)
2011 - 2012........15-59-2 Record
Semifinalist Thoroughbred Tourney
Participant 2011 USA Hockey National Championships
College Bound - Lindsey Hibbard (Gustavus Adolphus College), Kira Kuntz (Saint Catherine University), Kaylee DeBoer (Norwich University), Audra Richards (University of Maine), Lynne Larson (University of Wisconsin Superior), Caroline Kivisto (Bethel University), Karen Larson (University of Wisconsin Superior), Leah Gefroh (University of Wisconsin River Falls), Breanna Simon (Hamline University), Riley Siddorn (Adrian College), Mary Shefveland (Hamline University)
2010 - 2011........29-22-9 Record
Champions ~ Ohio Flames Ignite the Ice Tournament
Champions ~ Culvar Tourney
Consolation Champions ~ Junior Womens Hockey League
2nd Place ~ MN State/District Championship
College Bound - Alyssa Veil (Williams College), Raelyn Smith (Saint Catherine University), Steph Anderson (University of Minnesota), Paige Turner (University of Minnesota Duluth)
World Champions ~ Jenny Potter and Molly Engstrom
NCAA Champions - Anne Dronen, Wisconsin
2009 - 2010........31-25-5 Record
Champions ~ Ohio Flames Ignite the Ice Tournament
Runners-up ~ Thoroughbreds Tourney
Final Four ~ Junior Womens Hockey League
Runner-up ~ Culvar Tourney
2nd Place ~ MN State/District Championship
College Bound - Lindsay Brown (Ohio State University), Danielle Williams (Bemidji State University), Keri Pickel (Saint Scholastica College), Lindsay Burman (Quinnipiac University), Kari Lundberg (Minnesota State University), Alexius Schutt (Sacred Heart University)
Olympics ~ Silver Medal ~ Jenny Potter and Molly Engstrom
Kelly Mcginty - Runner-up for National Champions @ Cornell University
2008 - 2009........36-25-5 Record
Runner-up ~ Ohio Flames Ignite the Ice Tournament
3rd Place ~ Shattuck Saint Mary's Tourney
Consolation Champions ~ Thoroughbred Tourney
2nd Place ~ MN State/District Playoff
College Bound - Katie Frischmann (University of Minnesota), Allison Graf (Saint Michael's College), Brooke Hanson (UW-Stevens Point), Alex Morey (UW-River Falls), Samantha Meuwissen (Concordia University-Wisconsin), Tamara Meuwissen (Gustavus Adolphus College), Denise Perez (Lake Forest College), Kylie Smith (University of Maine)
World Champions: Jenny Potter, Molly Engstrom, Megan Van Beuskom
2007 - 2008........34-17-8 Record
Champions ~ Ohio Flames Ignite the Ice Tournament
Runner-up ~ Thoroughbred Tourney
Champions ~ Culver Academy Invitational
Consolation Champions ~ MWEHL Playoffs
2nd Place ~ MN State/District Playoff
College Bound - Amie Ernst (St Ben's), Ally Foley (UW-River Falls), Jaci Lang (St Thomas), Nicole Muske (Union College), Amanda Ryder (UW-River Falls), Sierra Vadner (Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute), Jill Vandegrift (Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute), Katie Ward (UW-Eau Claire), Rachel Weber (Princeton University), Lauren Williams (Bemidji State)
World Champions: Jenny Potter, Molly Engstrom
2006 - 2007........42-24-5 Record
Runner-up Union College Fall Festival,
Champion UND SuperSioux Tourney,
Runner-up Culver Academy Tourney,
3rd Place Overall/Playoff MWEHL
Runner-up Minnkota State/District Playoff
College Bound - Katie Bredice (Cornell University), Anne Dronen (University of Wisconsin), Nicole Hebert (University of North Dakota)
Alisha Java (Concordia University Wisconsin), Katie Lawler (University of Wisconsin Eau), Kelly Lewis (University of North Dakota),
Anna McNally (Middlebury College), Lisa Sablak (Gustavus Adolphus College), Autumn Stuntz (Niagara University)
Named to U.S. National Development Anne Dronen, Kelly Lewis, Rachel Weber, Nicole Muske
2005 - 2006........29-17-11 Record
2th Thoroughbred Tourney - 2nd District/State Championship
College Bound - Alex Williams (University of North Dakota), Sam Turner (University of North Dakota), Kelly McGinty (Cornell University),
Mallory Yorkson (Niagara University), Brittney Gould (Saint Anselm College), Brandi Frakie (Wayne State),
Lauren Muske (Union College), Jessica Ptachic (Bemidji State University)
Named to U.S. National Development: Sam Turner, Anne Dronen, Kelly Lewis
National Olympic teams: Jenny Potter (USA), Molly Engstrom (USA), Nikola Holmes (Sweden)
2004 - 2005........23-21-8 Record
2th Thoroughbred Tourney - 2nd District/State Championship
College Bound - Kari Gabrielson (University of North Dakota) Katherine Dineen (Princeton University),
Marley McMillan (Dartmouth College), Jessica Murphy (University of Vermont), Laurel Koller (Boston University)
Named to U.S. National Development: Katherine Dineen, Marley McMillan, Sam Turner, Anne Dronen
Ally Sanchez - Wins College National Championship @ University of Minnesota
2003 - 2004........32 -14 - 8 Record
2th Thoroughbred Tourney - 1st MWEHL Standings - 2nd District/State Championship
College Bound - Erin Blood (Boston College), Rachel Wedig (Boston College), Cristin Stuart (Boston College), Samantha Hough (UMD), Katrina Clifford (St.Ben's), Kelly Snedeker (UW-River Falls)
Ally Sanchez - Wins College National Championship @ University of Minnesota
2002 - 2003........21 - 20 - 4 Record
4th Thoroughbred Tourney - 4th MWEHL Standings - 2nd District/State Championship
College Bound - Taya Latham (Williams College), Amanda Gage (St. Mary's), Kim Kowalczyk (New England College) Jasey Porter (Minnesota State), Kiersten Supina (Union), Hilary Buler (UW- Stevens Point)
Jenny Hempel, Larissa Luther, Jenny Schmidgall Potter Win College National Championship @ UMD.
2001 - 2002........32 - 14- 8 Record
3rd Findlay, Ohio Tourney - Won Thoroughbred Tourney - 5th Polar Bear Tourney - 2nd MWEHL Standings - 2nd District/State Championship
College Bound - Katie Hauge (St. Cloud State), Sarah McCann (U of North Dakota), Allison Sanchez (U of Minnesota), Lindsay Weier (St. Olaf), Andrea Jensrud (Minnesota State - Mankato), Amber Yorga (U of North Dakota), Katie Sershen (Ohio State), Cassi Petsch (Bemidji State), Brie Anderson (St. Cloud State), Erika Latham (Williams College), Nicole Gedney (RIT), Jenny Trees (Buffalo State)
Jenny Hempel, Jess Flink, Larissa Luther Win National Championship @ UMD.
Named to USA National Team: Jenny Schmidgall Potter, Anna Marie Holmes, Carissa Zaban
Named to Olympic Team: Jenny Schmidgall Potter - Silver Medal
2000 - 2001........27 - 11- 10 Record
3rd Thoroughbred Tourney - 5th Polar Bear Tourney
- 2nd Central States Girl’s Hockey League - Won State/District Championship
2-0-1 Record in Divisional Play @ Nationals in Blaine, MN - 1st Place - Won Quarterfinal -vs- Washington D.C. 2-1 - Won Semi-final -vs- Shattuck St. Mary’s 4-1 - Lost in National Championship Game 3-0 to Syracuse Stars
College Bound - Molly Engstrom (Wisconsin) Marlene Yaeger (UW-River Falls), Candace Palmer (Bethel), Kim Lunneborg (UW-Stevens Point), Nicky Kluck (Bemidji State), Caitlin Peters (Quinnipiac), Cheralyn Anderson (Wayne State), Michaela Potts (St. Ben’s), Jennifer Dorff (UW-Stevens Point), Ashley Howe (UW-Stevens Point), Jennifer Yerigan (Middlebury)
Named to USA National Team: Annie Marie Holmes, Carisa Zaban, Jenny Schmidgall Potter
Britt Ralph, Jenny Hempel, Jess Flink Win College National Championship @ UMD
1999-2000........27-8-6 Record
3rd Thoroughbred Tourney - 3rd Polar Bear Tourney
- Won Central States Girl's Hockey League - 2nd Place State
College Bound - Stephanie Millar (Wisconsin), Janet Ploncinsky (Findlay), Ann Katz (Sacred Heart), Cara Trygestad (St. Thomas), Beth Betker (UW-River Falls), Ashley Alm (St. Thomas), Megan Van Buesekom (Princeton), Tatiana Shreves (MN State-Mankato), Diane Sawyer (UW-Stevens Point)
Named to USA Under 22 National Team: Jackie MacMillan, Anna Marie Holmes
Named to USA National Team: Holmes
Tracy Engstrom - Wins College National Championship @ University of Minnesota
1998-99 .........43-9-3 Record
Won Thoroughbred Tourney - 3rd All-American - Won Polar Bear Tourney - Won State Championship
- 2nd Place in Central States Hockey League
3-1-0 Divisional Record at Nationals in Washington, DC - 1st Place
Beat Honey Baked (MI) in Semi-Finals 4-0
Lost To Connecticut Polar Bears in National Championship Game 2-1
College Bound - Nikola Holmes (Princeton), Gwen Anderson (Minnesota), Amanda Mathison (St. Cloud St.), Katie Frohreich (Ohio St.), Sarah Engwall (Boston College), Jackie MacMillan (Wisconsin)
1997-98 ........37-9-5 Record
Won All-American Tourney - 3rd Thoroughbred - 3rd Polar Bear Tourney
Won State Championship - Won League Championship of Central States Girl's Hockey League
2-1-1 Divisional Record at Nationals in Los Angeles, CA - 1st Place Lost to California Selects 2-1 in Semi-Finals
College Bound - Roxy Stang (St. Cloud St.), Tracy Engstrom (Minnesota), Jenny Hempel (UMD), Erinn Perushek (Cornell), Cara Samuelson (MN State), Jessi Flink (UMD), Jenny Schmidgall (Potter) (UMD), Jessica Fedderly (Princeton)
Named to USA Olympic Team: Schmidgall (Potter), Blahoski - Gold Medal Winners
1996-97 ........37-3-1 Record
Won All American Tourney - Thoroughbred Tourney - State Championship
Won League Championship in 1st Season on Central Girls Hockey League
3-1 Divisional record at Nationals in Boston MA - 2nd place
Beat Lake Placid, NY in Semi-Finals 2-0
Lost to Connecticut Polar Bears in National Championship Game 3-1
College Bound - Brit Ralph (Minnesota), Kris Scholz (Minnesota), Marisa Pettiford (Minnesota), Erica Olson (Cornell), Annamarie Holmes (Princeton), Matty Brekken (Minnesota)
Named to the USA National Team: Schmidgall (Potter), Blahoski
1995-96 .......34-5-3 Record
Won All-American Tourney - Michigan Capitals Tourney - State Championship
4-0-0 Divisional Record @ Nationals in Bloomington, MN - 1st Place
Beat Chelmsford, MA in Semi-Finals 3-1 Lost To Alaska Firebirds in National Championship Game 1-0 3OT
College Bound - Jenny Bill (Providence), Jordan Jiskra (Brown), Winny Brodt (Minnesota)
Five Players Named to USA Jr. National Team: Olson, Holmes, Brodt, Ralph & Schmidgall (Potter)
1994-95......22-11-6 Record
Won Thoroughbred Tourney - State Championship
3-0-1 Divisional Record @ Nationals in Syracuse, NY - 1st Place
Lost to Little Caesars (MI) in Semi-Finals 1-0
College Bound - Jaime Abel (Brown), Melisa Heitzman (New Hampshire), Jaime Degriselles (UNH), Myia Yates (Providence), Carisa Zaban (UNH), Jenny Berg (Augsburg)
Seven Players Named to USA Jr. National Team: Zaban, Yates, Heitzman Brodt, Holmes, Hempel & Schmidgall (Potter).
1993-94 ....26-12-6 Record
Won Thoroughbred Tourney - State Championship
3-0-0 Divisional Record @ Nationals in Detroit, MI - 1st Place
Lost to Wisconsin in Semi-Finals 5-4 OT
College Bound - Ann Mortenson (Colby)
You can check out the JWHL at www.jwhl.org
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The 2 new players have been a nice addition. The varsity experience is not what has helped, its just that we can role 2 lines of forwards and d without someone double shifting. It gives the girls a chance to recharge. I can say, even when we had 9 skaters, no one complained, they just skated their hearts out. Many of the coaches in the JWHL commented how inpressed they were with the Minnesota girls and their determination, never quitting or slowing down.
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Yes your right, she was a good goalie for us http://www.uscho.com/stats/player/wid,8 ... ge-turner/
I remember Turner when she played at Duluth. She was a stud. Played football too if I remember correctly. They had Bellamy and Turner in net back when Fryklund was coach. What a combo. I always wondered what happened to her after her stint with UMD. Based on the stats you provided, she's doing a fine job at EC. Thoroughbreds have a fine history of developing collegiate players. Great option for girls who want to elevate their experience.