Tier 1 AAA against MN Assoc this weekend and next....

[Froggy Richards]

I think the 98's balance out the 00's in Mn.

They'll come up with everything after gathering top end players from all parts of their state and then having problems with small.. Hometown teams.

Getting sick of hearing it from them.... They should just stay away if they need to bring it up over and over again.

Just suck it up!!

Hearing what? Nobody whined or complained. The question was asked because I wanted to know whether anyone felt it made a difference. I can tell you that one of the teams we played that weekend had one 99 on the team and the rest were 98's.

Also you are misguided on the composition of Tier 1 Teams. The teams aren't always comprised of the "top end" players from all parts of the state. As an example all but 4 of the Tbirds live in the Denver Metro and the 4 that don't travel to each and every practice. However there are several top end players that choose for a variety of reasons not to play Tier 1.

First of all, Mr. Bo's comments about "sucking it up, or stay out of our State" are certainly not very "Minnesota Nice." I think it's fantastic that teams from around the country are coming in here to play our teams.

This whole debate on who has the advantage or not is pretty moot guys. These teams are not Apples to Apples. MN teams have some 98's and 00's. Tier 1 99 has all 99's. MN has the age advantage, but the rest of the country has the boundary advantage. Rusty says that all but 4 of the Tbirds live in the Denver Metro. If a Minneapolis Metro team could recruit anyone they wanted and put together a team of just 99's, I think we could all agree that they could put together a powerhouse and probably beat any 99 team in the country.

That's not the way it is. Every state is doing what they can with their numbers and trying to grow the game. Why can't we just be happy that we get to see teams from Colorado, Wisconsin, Michigan, New York, Massachusetts, etc. coming in to play hockey in the "State of Hockey?" I think it's Awesome!

[MrBoDangles]

I think the 98's balance out the 00's in Mn.

They'll come up with everything after gathering top end players from all parts of their state and then having problems with small.. Hometown teams.

Getting sick of hearing it from them.... They should just stay away if they need to bring it up over and over again.

Just suck it up!!

Hearing what? Nobody whined or complained. The question was asked because I wanted to know whether anyone felt it made a difference. I can tell you that one of the teams we played that weekend had one 99 on the team and the rest were 98's.

Also you are misguided on the composition of Tier 1 Teams. The teams aren't always comprised of the "top end" players from all parts of the state. As an example all but 4 of the Tbirds live in the Denver Metro and the 4 that don't travel to each and every practice. However there are several top end players that choose for a variety of reasons not to play Tier 1.

You brought up how many 99's out of innocent curiosity.....? Bull....!

What Minnesota bantam team had all 98's? Unheard of...

And I'm just saying that Minnesota teams are not going to want to play you guys when you use it as an excuse at your convenience. We already have plenty of good teams to play in close proximity.

Enjoy your flights.

[MrBoDangles]

They'll come up with everything after gathering top end players from all parts of their state and then having problems with small.. Hometown teams.

Getting sick of hearing it from them.... They should just stay away if they need to bring it up over and over again.

Just suck it up!! First of all, Mr. Bo's comments about "sucking it up, or stay out of our State" are certainly not very "Minnesota Nice." I think it's fantastic that teams from around the country are coming in here to play our teams.

This whole debate on who has the advantage or not is pretty moot guys. These teams are not Apples to Apples. MN teams have some 98's and 00's. Tier 1 99 has all 99's. MN has the age advantage, but the rest of the country has the boundary advantage. Rusty says that all but 4 of the Tbirds live in the Denver Metro. If a Minneapolis Metro team could recruit anyone they wanted and put together a team of just 99's, I think we could all agree that they could put together a powerhouse and probably beat any 99 team in the country.

That's not the way it is. Every state is doing what they can with their numbers and trying to grow the game. Why can't we just be happy that we get to see teams from Colorado, Wisconsin, Michigan, New York, Massachusetts, etc. coming in to play hockey in the "State of Hockey?" I think it's Awesome!

Yep, don't whine and bring up a few kids a couple months older every time you have a loss.

Have fun at your "Minnesota nice", rainbow coalition meeting this weekend.

[Rusty Blades]

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You brought up how many 99's out of innocent curiosity.....? Bull....!

What Minnesota bantam team had all 98's? Unheard of...

And I'm just saying that Minnesota teams are not going to want to play you guys when you use it as an excuse at your convenience. We already have plenty of good teams to play in close proximity.

Enjoy your flights.

We will.

Bo, please read through all the posts in this thread and find where anyone from a Tier 1 organization used age as an excuse for anything. I challenge you to find anything negative posted by someone from a Tier 1 organization regarding this subject. If you look back you will find I posted a thank you to everyone involved. It was a great weekend of hockey for both the kids and the parents. I told some of our parents that if the boys finished .500 that weekend then they will have done well. They finished 1-2-2 against some of the best talent in Minnesota. I would say it was a successful weekend.

It's funny how the only one with an axe to grind appears to be you.

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks." William Shakespeare

[MrBoDangles]

We will.

Bo, please read through all the posts in this thread and find where anyone from a Tier 1 organization used age as an excuse for anything. I challenge you to find anything negative posted by someone from a Tier 1 organization regarding this subject. If you look back you will find I posted a thank you to everyone involved. It was a great weekend of hockey for both the kids and the parents. I told some of our parents that if the boys finished .500 that weekend then they will have done well. They finished 1-2-2 against some of the best talent in Minnesota. I would say it was a successful weekend.

It's funny how the only one with an axe to grind appears to be you.

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks." William Shakespeare

Heard it every time teams play tier 1 teams from JSR. You act innocent about bringing it up. Edina's trip to Detroit/Chicago was a big excuse festival from the tier 1 faithful. Just getting old.

I love seeing the teams coming here. But. Again. There is no use playing the games if that's the way they're going to be looked at.

Mees cants stands crys babies. ~ Cotten picker foreman

[Froggy Richards]

We will.

Bo, please read through all the posts in this thread and find where anyone from a Tier 1 organization used age as an excuse for anything. I challenge you to find anything negative posted by someone from a Tier 1 organization regarding this subject. If you look back you will find I posted a thank you to everyone involved. It was a great weekend of hockey for both the kids and the parents. I told some of our parents that if the boys finished .500 that weekend then they will have done well. They finished 1-2-2 against some of the best talent in Minnesota. I would say it was a successful weekend.

It's funny how the only one with an axe to grind appears to be you.

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks." William Shakespeare

I thought your Thank You was very genuine and I'm glad you guys had a good experience playing in Minnesota. I hope you and many other Tier 1 teams continue to come back. I think Bo is being kind of a d*#k, but let's at least be fair here. You asked the question, "How many 99's are on the average Bantam AA team?" I wouldn't call that whining but I think most of us knew where you were going with that.

[MrBoDangles]

I thought your Thank You was very genuine and I'm glad you guys had a good experience playing in Minnesota. I hope you and many other Tier 1 teams continue to come back. I think Bo is being kind of a d*#k, but let's at least be fair here. You asked the question, "How many 99's are on the average Bantam AA team?" I wouldn't call that whining but I think most of us knew where you were going with that.

Thank you froggy!!! A few of us with common sense can read through their propaganda.

D*#k....???? A Duck???

My bad

[Froggy Richards]

Thank you froggy!!! A few of us with common sense can read through their propaganda.

D*#k....???? A Duck???

My bad

Yes, I meant Duck. We're serving Roast Duck this weekend at the "Minnesota nice", rainbow coalition meeting. Along with Cocoa Van, Sauteed Potatoes and Brocolli with Hollandaise Sauce. Open Bar from 6-8. I'm very confident that after a couple of shots of Makers Mark we can solve all of the world's problems! Hope to see you there.

[JSR]

Tell me what 2000 team your son plays for and give us the birthdate of the players.

Most tier 1 teams average a March or April birthdate.

Most associations would actually be much better if their kids could all be magically born in March of 99'...., but we have a WIDE variety that probably average younger on average.

Keep your crutch handy....

With all due respect telling you which team my son plays for would basically outright tell you who he is and I'd prefer the kids to stay anonymous on these sites, two people actually figured out exactly who I am on this site already, I'd prefer to keep it at two. Also, posting birthdates of kids of a "known" team would violate HIPAA laws publicly so I won't be doing that either. I will give you some additional info without revealing anything incriminating:

So last years team had 10 out of 18 born latter half of the 2000 birth year, and 8 born in first half of the year and of those: There were four players born in the first quarter, four players born in the 2nd quarter, 6 players born in the 3rd quarter, 4 players born in the 4th quarter.

So last years team had 7 out of 17 born latter half of the 2000 birth year, and 1 kid out of the 17 who was a 2001 actually, and 9 born in first half of the year and of those. There were four players born in the first quarter, five players born in the 2nd quarter, 3 players born in the 3rd quarter, 4 players born in the 4th quarter, and 1 player born in 2001.....

Honestly, I don't know where you are getting your "averages" from, as I have never seen a website or database that shows what the "average" birth months of Tier 1 teams are. maybe one exists but I have not seen it nor would I have any idea where they'd get that info from??? I wld say you are probably correct, though I do not know for certain, that the very top Tier 1 teams might be more skewed toward first half of the birth year but honestly the majority actually sometimes have 1 if not several "younger" players playing up just to try and field a competitive squad, I know of one well known Tier 1 team in WI that has player(s) playing 'up" on all but one of their age level teams and two have "multiple" players playing "up"..... so again not sure where you are getting your "averages" from...... The bottom 10 or so teams of Tier 1 probably couldn't even compete with most of your B1 teams up in MN and it'd be interesting to see their birth years, so again not sure where you are getting your data from or if it's just a "guess" based on other forms of data that you are extrapolating from (ie borth months of D1 or NHL teams) that you may be erroneously using to make this call.....

Lastly, respectfully it sounds like you are using the other half of the "crutches" in this fun and spirited debate. There is a yin for every yang... I hope this info helps you

You don't see me crying with a crutch that we have to play with kids "six months" younger than your kids, Mr Pot.

"We beat one of Minnesota's best teams! Hooray! We lost to the Minnesota team because they had a few late-late born 08's.. Boo-Hoo...Might as well not play your teams... It's a no win for us.

Just stay in southeastern sconny where you're at.

You'll never get it.

Umm, not once have you ever seen a single post from me saying "We beat one of Minnesota's best teams! Hooray!", nor have you ever seen anything even remotely close to that. Nor have I ever "cried" about losing as one of MY teams has never played a MN team. The question was posed and I gave an articulate answer of what I thought on the subject. When an objective outside individual gives their thoughts and opinions on a subject it's not whining or crying.... Sounds to me the only "sensitive soul" on this subject is you.... And by the way, who is "us"??? DId you have a kid playing on a team that played in these games?? YOu are not "MN Hockey" anymore than I am Tier 1 hockey, perhaps that is where your disconnect lies.....

[JSR]

Heard it every time teams play tier 1 teams from JSR. You act innocent about bringing it up. Edina's trip to Detroit/Chicago was a big excuse festival from the tier 1 faithful. Just getting old.

I love seeing the teams coming here. But. Again. There is no use playing the games if that's the way they're going to be looked at.

Mees cants stands crys babies. ~ Cotten picker foreman

Bo likes to twist things in his own mind. I've never used it as an "excuse". I have never had a son play in one of these games so how can I use it as an excuse? The subject has been raised by others and I offered an opinion and some valid facts to back up my opinion. I also tried to educate Bo on some of his erroneous ideas but I never have whined and never have used it as an excuse.; Bo needs to reread and rethink some thigs. I agree that he doth protest too much as well..... Lord forbid someone from outside the "State of hockey" have an opinion on the game

[MrBoDangles]

Simply stated that you keep saying we have such a huge age advantage in these games. Just shouldn't play them then if you have such a problem with it.

Every time.

Now write us another story.

[east hockey]

And you're our new HSHF village idiot.

Please double check with "your grocery getter" on that one. She's of a different mind.

I've banned your new incarnation. You're not as clever as you thought. Given your "argument" with Mitch banning you previously, we weren't inclined to give you another chance. So, keep creating new usernames. I bet I can ban your usernames, IP addresses and email addresses just as quickly as you can create them.

Lee