Edina Invades the Motor City

YouthHockeyHub · Post by **YouthHockeyHub** » Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:29 am

Two of three game stories posted.

More to come tomorrow on game 3 and general commentary. I will post here when it's complete. Crazy day tomorrow in YHH land, may be later in the day.

http://youthhockeyhub.com/edina-invades-the-motor-city/

Enjoy,

TS

O-townClown · Post by **O-townClown** » Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:08 pm

The ham team went out for a postgame pizza? Not Caesars I assume!

Nice work, Tony.

BenDangle · Post by **BenDangle** » Sun Jan 05, 2014 10:54 pm

The Cake Eaters went to Detroit again I see. Tony Scott does his best Edina smooch story and has some choice words about Minnesota Hockey.

http://www.youthhockeyhub.com/news_arti ... _id=967187

Froggy Richards · Post by **Froggy Richards** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 12:40 am

BenDangle wrote:The Cake Eaters went to Detroit again I see. Tony Scott does his best Edina smooch story and has some choice words about Minnesota Hockey.

http://www.youthhockeyhub.com/news_arti ... _id=967187

I thought it was a great article. Congratulations to Edina on a great showing. Way to represent MN Hockey!

Ben, you're GEE!

Goaliedad1 · Post by **Goaliedad1** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:16 am

Yes very good article. The Edina PWAA team played in a Tier 1 2001 Showcase? I do believe half of the Edina PWAA team are 2000 birth years? They should have done well since they are playing teams with all players younger then them? Why play teams younger, they should have played against 2000 teams?

hockeygoof1 · Post by **hockeygoof1** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:33 am

BenDangle wrote:The Cake Eaters went to Detroit again I see. Tony Scott does his best Edina smooch story and has some choice words about Minnesota Hockey.

http://www.youthhockeyhub.com/news_arti ... _id=967187

It was nice to see a local team do so well, but tell whoever wrote that article that Sid Hartman's job isn't open any time soon.

old goalie85 · Post by **old goalie85** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:51 am

Nice job Tony !!!

Froggy Richards · Post by **Froggy Richards** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 10:26 am

Goaliedad1 wrote:Yes very good article. The Edina PWAA team played in a Tier 1 2001 Showcase? I do believe half of the Edina PWAA team are 2000 birth years? They should have done well since they are playing teams with all players younger then them? Why play teams younger, they should have played against 2000 teams?

I think the article mentioned that one of the teams they played draws players from a population base of 5 Million. I would think that is an equalizer to having a few older kids from a base of 50,000.

CHI-TOWN HOCKEYDAD · Post by **CHI-TOWN HOCKEYDAD** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 10:50 am

Goaliedad1 wrote:Yes very good article. The Edina PWAA team played in a Tier 1 2001 Showcase? I do believe half of the Edina PWAA team are 2000 birth years? They should have done well since they are playing teams with all players younger then them? Why play teams younger, they should have played against 2000 teams?

Is it possible that USA Hockey rules are the reason? 2000s are bantams elsewhere.

old goalie85 · Post by **old goalie85** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:00 am

What about 02's on Edina ??

Bluewhitefan · Post by **Bluewhitefan** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 12:20 pm

CHI-TOWN HOCKEYDAD wrote:
Goaliedad1 wrote:Yes very good article. The Edina PWAA team played in a Tier 1 2001 Showcase? I do believe half of the Edina PWAA team are 2000 birth years? They should have done well since they are playing teams with all players younger then them? Why play teams younger, they should have played against 2000 teams?
Is it possible that USA Hockey rules are the reason? 2000s are bantams elsewhere.

Exactly - they can't play teams that would have Bantam age kids under USA Hockey rules.

JSR · Post by **JSR** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 12:58 pm

old goalie85 wrote:What about 02's on Edina ??

Are there any on their PWAA team?? IDK, I am asking....

MrBoDangles · Post by **MrBoDangles** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 1:03 pm

JSR wrote:
old goalie85 wrote:What about 02's on Edina ??
Are there any on their PWAA team?? IDK, I am asking....

Pretty sure they're an older team this year. Last year they were young with a bunch of late born 00's and one 01' if I remember right. They had a ton of strength in their younger kids last year.

Hope this helps you.

CHI-TOWN HOCKEYDAD · Post by **CHI-TOWN HOCKEYDAD** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 1:11 pm

JSR wrote:
old goalie85 wrote:What about 02's on Edina ??
Are there any on their PWAA team?? IDK, I am asking....

2 at least, both on 02 Blades.

JSR · Post by **JSR** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 1:15 pm

MrBoDangles wrote:
JSR wrote:
old goalie85 wrote:What about 02's on Edina ??
Are there any on their PWAA team?? IDK, I am asking....
Pretty sure they're an older team this year. Last year they were young with a bunch of late born 00's and one 01' if I remember right. They had a ton of strength in their younger kids last year.

Hope this helps you.

Was just curious.... based on Tony Scott's YHH write up the box score seemed to be filled with a "who's who" of 2000 MN Machine Orange kids though... (a team I think Tony Scott once called "the best team in North America when they are together")

MrBoDangles · Post by **MrBoDangles** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 1:21 pm

JSR wrote:
MrBoDangles wrote:
JSR wrote: Are there any on their PWAA team?? IDK, I am asking....
Pretty sure they're an older team this year. Last year they were young with a bunch of late born 00's and one 01' if I remember right. They had a ton of strength in their younger kids last year.

Hope this helps you.
Was just curious.... based on Tony Scott's YHH write up the box score seemed to be filled with a "who's who" of 2000 MN Machine Orange kids though... (a team I think Tony Scott once called "the best team in North America when they are together")

Yep, very young last year when they went.

40 player, Superior, Wisconsin was the team when you brought up age structure.

Hope this helps you.

JSR · Post by **JSR** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 1:25 pm

Froggy Richards wrote:
Goaliedad1 wrote:Yes very good article. The Edina PWAA team played in a Tier 1 2001 Showcase? I do believe half of the Edina PWAA team are 2000 birth years? They should have done well since they are playing teams with all players younger then them? Why play teams younger, they should have played against 2000 teams?
I think the article mentioned that one of the teams they played draws players from a population base of 5 Million. I would think that is an equalizer to having a few older kids from a base of 50,000.

These "statistics' are completely disengenuous if you ask me. The "real" statistical number to be looking at would be how many USA hockey registered kids are the teams pulling from in reality. The Tier 1 teams in Michigan are pulling from predominantly the pool of talent in Michigan (though I understand they do have a couple from outside the state on any given team...). but I am not real familiar with MI's numbers... I know the Chicago based teams pull predominantly from the greater Chicago area (with a couple outsiders) so this is like saying the Chiacgo teams pull from a population of over 10 million, but that really isn't correct since Illinois as a whole only has 22,000 registered USA hockey members give or take, whereas MN has somewhere over 50,000 registered members. Or let's take the Madison Captiols which I am more familiar with since they are ocal to me, the overwhelming majority of kids that play for the Capitols (with some exceptions of course) are from the Dane and Rock county areas of Wisconsin, based on what I have seen ALL of the youth hockey associations ut together in those two counties are probably somewhat similar in size as Edina's program

So the "real" number would be how many USA hockey registered kids in a given age group are the teams pulling from. Edina may have a population of 50,000 but how many registered hockey players are there in the community? Some people want to call the Tier 1 teams "all star" teams when in reality the total talent pool most of them pull from is no larger than the pool Edina pulls from. That is Kudo's to Edina for being so successful in recruiting and developing so many kids who want to play hockey, as well as other areas of MN I think it's fantastic and we all try and do what we can in our areas to strive for that as well, but I think the conversation bears having in these instances.m Not "making excuses" for anyone but Tony and others have brought up that population number before when it really isn't "real" if that makes sense.

JSR · Post by **JSR** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 1:36 pm

MrBoDangles wrote:
JSR wrote:
MrBoDangles wrote: Pretty sure they're an older team this year. Last year they were young with a bunch of late born 00's and one 01' if I remember right. They had a ton of strength in their younger kids last year.

Hope this helps you.
Was just curious.... based on Tony Scott's YHH write up the box score seemed to be filled with a "who's who" of 2000 MN Machine Orange kids though... (a team I think Tony Scott once called "the best team in North America when they are together")
Yep, very young last year when they went.

40 player, Superior, Wisconsin was the team when you brought up age structure.

Hope this helps you.

I think we're mixing our discussions a hair here, but if we want to get technical the 40 players at Superiors age level was in question when talking about a Madison Capitols 2001 team as I recall. That 2001 Cap team had like 25 players at it's tryout (and it's not because they didn't want more), so..... as I have said before, not all Tier 1 teams are these miraculous "all star" teams that you think they are when they are put together

old goalie85 · Post by **old goalie85** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 1:37 pm

So we can't count the kids playing "pumpkin push" in the Chi.......??

MrBoDangles · Post by **MrBoDangles** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 1:41 pm

JSR wrote:
MrBoDangles wrote:
JSR wrote: Was just curious.... based on Tony Scott's YHH write up the box score seemed to be filled with a "who's who" of 2000 MN Machine Orange kids though... (a team I think Tony Scott once called "the best team in North America when they are together")
Yep, very young last year when they went.

40 player, Superior, Wisconsin was the team when you brought up age structure.

Hope this helps you.
I think we're mixing our discussions a hair here, but if we want to get technical the 40 players at Superiors age level was in question when talking about a Madison Capitols 2001 team as I recall. That 2001 Cap team had like 25 players at it's tryout (and it's not because they didn't want more), so..... as I have said before, not all Tier 1 teams are these miraculous "all star" teams that you think they are when they are put together

You had to bring it up again just to be a smart arse. Get off your little age kick and we're all good.

You bring a lot of good info to the bOred.... Stick to that instead.

Goaliedad1 · Post by **Goaliedad1** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 2:40 pm

Half of the Edina PWAA team is 2000's playing against 2001. Thats more than a few older kids.

edgeless2 · Post by **edgeless2** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 4:00 pm

JSR wrote:
MrBoDangles wrote:
JSR wrote: Was just curious.... based on Tony Scott's YHH write up the box score seemed to be filled with a "who's who" of 2000 MN Machine Orange kids though... (a team I think Tony Scott once called "the best team in North America when they are together")
Yep, very young last year when they went.

40 player, Superior, Wisconsin was the team when you brought up age structure.

Hope this helps you.
I think we're mixing our discussions a hair here, but if we want to get technical the 40 players at Superiors age level was in question when talking about a Madison Capitols 2001 team as I recall. That 2001 Cap team had like 25 players at it's tryout (and it's not because they didn't want more), so..... as I have said before, not all Tier 1 teams are these miraculous "all star" teams that you think they are when they are put together

If I am not mistaken the Madison Capitols 00 squad sported a couple 00 Machine kids that would probably be considered "All-Stars"

Froggy Richards · Post by **Froggy Richards** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:03 pm

Goaliedad1 wrote:Half of the Edina PWAA team is 2000's playing against 2001. Thats more than a few older kids.

You're talking a maximum of 6 months older. And in my opinion it's more of a maturity thing than a physical ability thing. But if you're making a top 10 in the country Tier 1 team I imagine you're pretty mature. Edina also had kids who are younger than their opponents. Non issue.

Ugottobekiddingme · Post by **Ugottobekiddingme** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:35 pm

Froggy Richards wrote:
Goaliedad1 wrote:Half of the Edina PWAA team is 2000's playing against 2001. Thats more than a few older kids.
You're talking a maximum of 6 months older. And in my opinion it's more of a maturity thing than a physical ability thing. But if you're making a top 10 in the country Tier 1 team I imagine you're pretty mature. Edina also had kids who are younger than their opponents. Non issue.

I agree Froggy, at 11 and 12 these kids are well past puberty and at a mature level. Heck, in four yours they will be driving themselves to hockey practice.

lilgretzky99 · Post by **lilgretzky99** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:25 pm

BenDangle wrote:The Cake Eaters went to Detroit again I see. Tony Scott does his best Edina smooch story and has some choice words about Minnesota Hockey.

http://www.youthhockeyhub.com/news_arti ... _id=967187

Agreed! What's worse.

A) Smooch stories?
B) His rankings?