Section 7AA 2013-2014?

Nevertoomuchhockey · Post by **Nevertoomuchhockey** » Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:53 pm

TheInsider wrote:If Elk River beats Centennial and Andover, they secure the #1 seed. But if they drop one of those games and Duluth East beats Lakeville North.. Their in trouble.

I'd like to know how many of you think East can beat LN? I almost always pick DE, but not this time.

Traxler could you explain your comment about ER faltering over a "selfish move?" Ya lost me.

Nuts&Bolts · Post by **Nuts&Bolts** » Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:56 pm

Not sure how it was decided but probably a wise move for both ER and BSM not to make-up that game. Neither team has much of anything to gain by playing while a loss could hurt badly when it comes to section rankings now particularly with the tail spin the Elks appear to be entering. Are any other games not being made up and do they have the same smell as this cancelled contest?

Nuts&Bolts · Post by **Nuts&Bolts** » Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:02 pm

LN like many in the top 12 are beatable. Lakeville South was in a close game today beating North 2-1 until the wheels started to come off late in the 2nd to go down 3-2 before getting trounced 7-2. Advantage to East for being at home and if they can get some goaltending and play strong defensively against the LN top line I like East pulling a bit of a upset.

Nuts&Bolts · Post by **Nuts&Bolts** » Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:03 pm

Oh and my guess is Traxler is referring to ERs senior deciding to pack his bags early and head to Fargo for the remainder of his year walking away from his team mid-season.

chief22 · Post by **chief22** » Sun Feb 02, 2014 3:04 am

sanryam wrote:Elk River 2
Andover 5
Final

Shots 28 16 ER

Elks controlled play almost completely during even strength, but couldn't get them to go in. Very poor night for Berglove, allowing 5 goals over only 16 shots.

Elks controlled the play? Not sure what game you were watching. They did not control anything. Got some PP shots from way out. Stop making excuses...just got smoked.

longrebound · Post by **longrebound** » Sun Feb 02, 2014 3:05 am

sanryam wrote:Elk River 2
Andover 5
Final

Shots 28 16 ER

Elks controlled play almost completely during even strength, but couldn't get them to go in. Very poor night for Berglove, allowing 5 goals over only 16 shots.

The shots were 17-16 after two periods for Elk River but the score was 4-0 for Andover. Elk River outshot them 14-4 in the third after Andover made it 5-0 early. Don't try to make this something it isn't. Andover took it to the Elks tonight.

sanryam · Post by **sanryam** » Sun Feb 02, 2014 6:26 am

longrebound wrote:
sanryam wrote:Elk River 2
Andover 5
Final

Shots 28 16 ER

Elks controlled play almost completely during even strength, but couldn't get them to go in. Very poor night for Berglove, allowing 5 goals over only 16 shots.
The shots were 17-16 after two periods for Elk River but the score was 4-0 for Andover. Elk River outshot them 14-4 in the third after Andover made it 5-0 early. Don't try to make this something it isn't. Andover took it to the Elks tonight.

Yes, Andover did take it to them. I just think the Elks were better on the forecheck. Andover played incredible D, blocking tons of shots and keeping ER to the perimeter the whole game. Also, Andover's goalie was stellar. Not taking anything away from the Huskies

curtiscurve · Post by **curtiscurve** » Sun Feb 02, 2014 9:40 am

This thing is messy. If East wins their remaining 7AA games, they should get the #1. Elk River should be a lock at #2. They are done with their 7AA schedule and their over all body of work speaks for itself. After that, it gets tough. FLake, Andover and GR can all make a case for the 3rd seed. It will all depend on if the coaches put more emphisis on how the teams are playing at the end of the year. FLake lost to GR early and beat Andover, but lost to ER and blown out by East. Grand Rapids put up an early win on FLake and Elk River, but lost badly to East and took OT to beat Cloquet (Also lost to Virginia, WBL and Moorhead). Andover lost to FL in a close one, to ER early in tight one and East in a 3-1 game (All on the road), but lately have been pretty dominate winning 8 in a row including a blow out of CEC and a comfortable win last night against ER. With all that said, Here is where I see it as of today...
1 - Duluth East
2 - Elk River
3 - Andover
4 - Grand Rapids
5 - Forest lake
6 - Cloquet-Esko-Carlton
7 - St. Michael-Albertville
8 - St. Francis
9 - Cambridge-Isanti

CEC and STMA could switch places if STMA can knock them off later this month. The way it look, the top 5 all have a legitimate shot at winning the section. At this point though, I have to say, East is the favorite.

Nevertoomuchhockey · Post by **Nevertoomuchhockey** » Sun Feb 02, 2014 9:51 am

Props on how you label their W-L record as their "body of work."

MrBoDangles · Post by **MrBoDangles** » Sun Feb 02, 2014 12:23 pm

Andover is peaking at the right time..

TheInsider · Post by **TheInsider** » Sun Feb 02, 2014 12:34 pm

If you were East or Elk River would you rather face Andover or Grand Rapids in the semis? The way it looks right now, Rapids. But looking at the whole season, its kind of a toss up.

Traxler · Post by **Traxler** » Sun Feb 02, 2014 12:40 pm

TheInsider wrote:If you were East or Elk River would you rather face Andover or Grand Rapids in the semis? The way it looks right now, Rapids. But looking at the whole season, its kind of a toss up.

I still think Grand Rapids is the more dangerous opponent than Andover, especially in the playoffs.

Traxler · Post by **Traxler** » Sun Feb 02, 2014 12:42 pm

Has there been any talk about rotating the section tournament for 7AA? It seems to be a huge advantage to Duluth East to always get 3 home games as long as they're seeded in the top 4.

TheHockeyDJ · Post by **TheHockeyDJ** » Sun Feb 02, 2014 1:03 pm

Traxler wrote:Has there been any talk about rotating the section tournament for 7AA? It seems to be a huge advantage to Duluth East to always get 3 home games as long as they're seeded in the top 4.

No, the coaches and players all love playing at Amsoil Arena. Even Andover's coach addressed this on the radio saying it's just a few "random fans" that ever complain about playing in Duluth. Amsoil Arena is a wonderful venue and the #1 ranked arena in North America on stadium journey.com. Why on earth would anyone not want to play or watch a game there? Not only is the arena beautiful, but Duluth is arguably the most scenic city in Minnesota being on Lake Superior. Another great thing is the skyway system that connects downtown to the arena so you don't have to go outside if it's -30.

MrBoDangles · Post by **MrBoDangles** » Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:05 pm

TheHockeyDJ wrote:
Traxler wrote:Has there been any talk about rotating the section tournament for 7AA? It seems to be a huge advantage to Duluth East to always get 3 home games as long as they're seeded in the top 4.
No, the coaches and players all love playing at Amsoil Arena. Even Andover's coach addressed this on the radio saying it's just a few "random fans" that ever complain about playing in Duluth. Amsoil Arena is a wonderful venue and the #1 ranked arena in North America on stadium journey.com. Why on earth would anyone not want to play or watch a game there? Not only is the arena beautiful, but Duluth is arguably the most scenic city in Minnesota being on Lake Superior. Another great thing is the skyway system that connects downtown to the arena so you don't have to go outside if it's -30.

Quit blowing the one holed flute...

alcloseshaver · Post by **alcloseshaver** » Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:43 pm

Traxler wrote:
TheInsider wrote:If you were East or Elk River would you rather face Andover or Grand Rapids in the semis? The way it looks right now, Rapids. But looking at the whole season, its kind of a toss up.
I still think Grand Rapids is the more dangerous opponent than Andover, especially in the playoffs.

I disagree, Andover is a real threat in 7AA also Maple Grove will give Blaine all they can handle. Both teams with skilled and dangerous forwards. Elk River appears to be working through some line combinations. Their real weakness is on defense with their best D-man being a smallish soph. The loss of Zerban hasthem starting over after the first line. Zerban has played in 2 of 4 games for Fargo and has 1 shot on goal and a -2. FYI

sanryam · Post by **sanryam** » Sun Feb 02, 2014 11:56 pm

bemused · Post by **bemused** » Mon Feb 03, 2014 12:34 am

alcloseshaver wrote:
Traxler wrote:
TheInsider wrote:If you were East or Elk River would you rather face Andover or Grand Rapids in the semis? The way it looks right now, Rapids. But looking at the whole season, its kind of a toss up.
I still think Grand Rapids is the more dangerous opponent than Andover, especially in the playoffs.
I disagree, Andover is a real threat in 7AA also Maple Grove will give Blaine all they can handle. Both teams with skilled and dangerous forwards. Elk River appears to be working through some line combinations. Their real weakness is on defense with their best D-man being a smallish soph. The loss of Zerban hasthem starting over after the first line. Zerban has played in 2 of 4 games for Fargo and has 1 shot on goal and a -2. FYI

Agreed

sanryam · Post by **sanryam** » Mon Feb 03, 2014 9:36 am

alcloseshaver wrote:
Traxler wrote:
TheInsider wrote:If you were East or Elk River would you rather face Andover or Grand Rapids in the semis? The way it looks right now, Rapids. But looking at the whole season, its kind of a toss up.
I still think Grand Rapids is the more dangerous opponent than Andover, especially in the playoffs.
I disagree, Andover is a real threat in 7AA also Maple Grove will give Blaine all they can handle. Both teams with skilled and dangerous forwards. Elk River appears to be working through some line combinations. Their real weakness is on defense with their best D-man being a smallish soph. The loss of Zerban hasthem starting over after the first line. Zerban has played in 2 of 4 games for Fargo and has 1 shot on goal and a -2. FYI

While I'm not sure defense is Elk River's ultimate problem, the lines need to be figured out sooner rather than later. Roberts has juggled the lines this way and that since Zerban left. I don't blame him, but something needs to be set in stone this close to sections. The cohesion is not there. Instead of dropping Lutz back, why not separate Springman and Jaremko?

alcloseshaver · Post by **alcloseshaver** » Mon Feb 03, 2014 11:44 am

sanryam wrote:
alcloseshaver wrote:
Traxler wrote: I still think Grand Rapids is the more dangerous opponent than Andover, especially in the playoffs.
I disagree, Andover is a real threat in 7AA also Maple Grove will give Blaine all they can handle. Both teams with skilled and dangerous forwards. Elk River appears to be working through some line combinations. Their real weakness is on defense with their best D-man being a smallish soph. The loss of Zerban hasthem starting over after the first line. Zerban has played in 2 of 4 games for Fargo and has 1 shot on goal and a -2. FYI
While I'm not sure defense is Elk River's ultimate problem, the lines need to be figured out sooner rather than later. Roberts has juggled the lines this way and that since Zerban left. I don't blame him, but something needs to be set in stone this close to sections. The cohesion is not there. Instead of dropping Lutz back, why not separate Springman and Jaremko?

Scoring will be an issue minus Zerban no doubt, the need to stay out of the box is of utmost importance. They still have the players to win 7AA no matter what they are seeded. Blaine may light them up though.

Nevertoomuchhockey · Post by **Nevertoomuchhockey** » Mon Feb 03, 2014 11:47 am

I obviously don't know the details about the player who left other than it was his choice. I respect that he and his parents think they made the best decision for their family. Here's my question... How are the remaining players and parents taking it? Especially in regards to this coming down to the wire thread?

alcloseshaver · Post by **alcloseshaver** » Mon Feb 03, 2014 11:52 am

Nevertoomuchhockey wrote:I obviously don't know the details about the player who left other than it was his choice. I respect that he and his parents think they made the best decision for their family. Here's my question... How are the remaining players and parents taking it? Especially in regards to this coming down to the wire thread?

I'm sure the players have moved on but the parents probably still have issues with timing of something that could have been done in a month. ER has lost 2 in a row, no reason to panic. They are a good team that can compete with anyone.

north_bear · Post by **north_bear** » Mon Feb 03, 2014 10:40 pm

Cloquet, CLOQUET takes down East tonight, 2-1. Wish I was at that game!

If that doesn't throw a wrench in the seedings and garble the whole picture...

Slammer · Post by **Slammer** » Mon Feb 03, 2014 10:59 pm

ERZ beat DE, FL, AND

DE beat FL, GR, AND, CEC

AND beat ERZ, CEC

FL beat AND, CEC

GR beat ERZ, FL, CEC 2X

CEC beat DE

Newguy_10 · Post by **Newguy_10** » Mon Feb 03, 2014 11:07 pm

Can't believe I'm saying this but Rapids possible #1 seed? Only team with one section loss even though it was a ugly one. Also have a couple losses that a #1 seeded team shouldn't have. Is it possible with how much of a mess this section is right now?