#2Hermantown (22-4-2) vs Luverne (27-0-1) 11am

[flash4000]

Has Nelson hit his peak or does he continue to get better??? Time will tell! This kid is 4 yr. from being draft eligible. He was certainly known to scouts before the tournament but I think he only improved his value after this game. I see him in a SSM uniform next year!

What hockey player peaks as an 8th grader? That may be the dumbest question ever brought up on this board!

not really bud. hockey players peak at any age. some never come out of it, some bounce back, some don't peak till later some never do peak.

Ok genius, its apparent you know nothing about human/player development. You can stop posting now, I don't need to become any dumber than I am.

[HShockeywatcher]

Seen a bunch of them over time. That speedy little forward who ducks and dogdes his way through traffic who hits puberty and comes un done because he can't catch up to his body size and get "ungangly". That kid who is big as an 8th grader and uses his body and post puberty skill set to wow and amaze until the rest of the kids get through puberty and then he is middle of the pack. That goalie who is a slip sliding butterflying machine when he is playing Bantams against kids who are not snipers yet but who does not get much taller and who becomes the victim of snipers and lack of skills/body size. Who does not play the game style that his body size and skill set dictates that he should.

I am not saying that this is going to happen to this kid but it could. Not the end of the world but the end of the road for a kid who rests on his Bantam reputation and quits working hard because he has "it made" and gets caught up to and over taken by those kids who are working constantly to get better.

While I understand the sentiment of what you're saying, this isn't an amazing kid developing in bantams, this is an 8th grader playing HS hockey and getting multiple assists against a team who hasn't lost to any Class A teams this year.
How many 8th graders have been top 20 in the state in scoring and "fallen off?" I doubt many.

[defense]

What hockey player peaks as an 8th grader? That may be the dumbest question ever brought up on this board!

not really bud. hockey players peak at any age. some never come out of it, some bounce back, some don't peak till later some never do peak.

Ok genius, its apparent you know nothing about human/player development. You can stop posting now, I don't need to become any dumber than I am.

laughing at your arrogance, shaking my head about all the kids that didn't know about human development and peaked in peewees as a sniper or bantams as a 6 footer.. perhaps you could make a pretty penny educating the rest of the hockey world about human / player development so that this can stop... better yet, move to my town and only tell our association, we haven't been to state in awhile..

[TooMuchFUn]

This kid is the real deal...has been since he stepped on the ice as a 3 year old...I guarantee you he has not peaked yet!

[defense]

Seen a bunch of them over time. That speedy little forward who ducks and dogdes his way through traffic who hits puberty and comes un done because he can't catch up to his body size and get "ungangly". That kid who is big as an 8th grader and uses his body and post puberty skill set to wow and amaze until the rest of the kids get through puberty and then he is middle of the pack. That goalie who is a slip sliding butterflying machine when he is playing Bantams against kids who are not snipers yet but who does not get much taller and who becomes the victim of snipers and lack of skills/body size. Who does not play the game style that his body size and skill set dictates that he should.

I am not saying that this is going to happen to this kid but it could. Not the end of the world but the end of the road for a kid who rests on his Bantam reputation and quits working hard because he has "it made" and gets caught up to and over taken by those kids who are working constantly to get better.

While I understand the sentiment of what you're saying, this isn't an amazing kid developing in bantams, this is an 8th grader playing HS hockey and getting multiple assists against a team who hasn't lost to any Class A teams this year.
How many 8th graders have been top 20 in the state in scoring and "fallen off?" I doubt many.

Im pretty sure the issue is not that this particular player is special, obviously he is. The issue was likely flash's declaration of no hockey players peaking at 8 th grade and that it was the dumbest question on the board.

[TooMuchFUn]

It was a dumb question...considering the circumstances

[goldy313]

3 observations....
Playing for Luverne hasn't hurt that kids development so far, they have some really nice players who could play for anyone.

The own goal in the first minute really hurt, Luverne did a really nice job of overcoming it.

I think most observers saw this as a learning experience and something to build on going into the game and coming out of it I think Luverne is closer than most people thought, including me.

[defense]

It was a dumb question...considering the circumstances

time will tell

[Section 3A HockeyScout]

Jaxon Nelson is Special he is going to be the top 2000 birthdate in this State. He put on a greta show today was very impressed.

Also been told HE WILL NOT be leaving Luverne. Good for 3A and SW MN Hockey

[Deck Slide]

Seen a bunch of them over time. That speedy little forward who ducks and dogdes his way through traffic who hits puberty and comes un done because he can't catch up to his body size and get "ungangly". That kid who is big as an 8th grader and uses his body and post puberty skill set to wow and amaze until the rest of the kids get through puberty and then he is middle of the pack. That goalie who is a slip sliding butterflying machine when he is playing Bantams against kids who are not snipers yet but who does not get much taller and who becomes the victim of snipers and lack of skills/body size. Who does not play the game style that his body size and skill set dictates that he should.

I am not saying that this is going to happen to this kid but it could. Not the end of the world but the end of the road for a kid who rests on his Bantam reputation and quits working hard because he has "it made" and gets caught up to and over taken by those kids who are working constantly to get better.

While I understand the sentiment of what you're saying, this isn't an amazing kid developing in bantams, this is an 8th grader playing HS hockey and getting multiple assists against a team who hasn't lost to any Class A teams this year.
How many 8th graders have been top 20 in the state in scoring and "fallen off?" I doubt many.

To the Human Development expert that says they haven't scene a 8th or 9th grader really level off and not get much better certainly hasn't been around youth and HS sports.. I can think of many kids that as 9th graders in HS put up flashy Numbers and by the time they were Seniors put up the same or less!! There have also been players that are not even on the radar till they are 16 or 17 and explode and really make their mark then. It goes both ways and too say it can't happen is very ignorant.

The Nelson kid will get better.. How much that is very debatable. Hopefully he is kid that can really help grow hockey in that part of the State because it is drastically needed. He is a legit Prospect.. At what level. That remains to be scene!

[Shinbone_News]

Jaxon Nelson is Special he is going to be the top 2000 birthdate in this State. He put on a greta show today was very impressed.

Now that's a pretty big claim, actually, considering the depth of the 2000 birth year around the state. Most are still playing PW or Bantam, of course... so, you know, hooray for early puberty and all that.

I think the kid -- and the team -- pleasantly surprised all of those who gave Luverne no chance. But let's try to keep things in perspective which is a continuing problem for 3A fans.

Interesting to think of other 2000s around the state who could shine on a 1A varsity team in an emerging part of the state.

[northwoods oldtimer]

Boys, I really like that Luverne Cardinal team. They stepped into the ring with the single A Goliath today and went toe to toe with one of the better single A programs around. I would imagine they had a few uptight Hermantown hockey zealots a little stressed out at times today. Plant was puckered up big time in the between period interview, (he is never short on words)! The Cardinals many times brought that free wheeling rink rat hockey style to play, it was reckless as hell at times, it cost them some goals but man it was really fun to watch. All I can say is Luverne is good for hockey! One game does not make a tournament but these kids were a refreshing reminder of the free wheeling fun youth sports should and needs to bring. They put a new twist on the Saint Paul event that has gone far too corporate of late. Wish they were back at Excel for a Friday afternoon encore!

[Sats81]

Boys, I really like that Luverne Cardinal team. They stepped into the ring with the single A Goliath today and went toe to toe with one of the better single A programs around. I would imagine they had a few uptight Hermantown hockey zealots a little stressed out at times today. Plant was puckered up big time in the between period interview, (he is never short on words)! The Cardinals many times brought that free wheeling rink rat hockey style to play, it was reckless as hell at times, it cost them some goals but man it was really fun to watch. All I can say is Luverne is good for hockey! One game does not make a tournament but these kids were a refreshing reminder of the free wheeling fun youth sports should and needs to bring. They put a new twist on the Saint Paul event that has gone far too corporate of late. Wish they were back at Excel for a Friday afternoon encore!

Great post and all true. Very fun to watch. Hopefully some of their younger exciting players stick around.

[notTONIGHT]

Jaxon Nelson is Special he is going to be the top 2000 birthdate in this State. He put on a greta show today was very impressed.

Now that's a pretty big claim, actually, considering the depth of the 2000 birth year around the state. Most are still playing PW or Bantam, of course... so, you know, hooray for early puberty and all that.

I think the kid -- and the team -- pleasantly surprised all of those who gave Luverne no chance. But let's try to keep things in perspective which is a continuing problem for 3A fans.

Interesting to think of other 2000s around the state who could shine on a 1A varsity team in an emerging part of the state.

call Wisconsin, north Dakota, the U! And let me see if they agree.

[flash4000]

Defense and dick slide are comparing middle of the road bantams and pee weeks, to and 8th grader that just played in his first state tournament game, and stood out. That facts are that I'm right 99% of the time and those two clowns are right 1%. Start naming all your bantam and pee wee players since you've seen so many! Great comparison, elite varsity player vs. Pee wee and bantam player. Keep the intelligent comments coming, my brain is getting smaller by the minute.

[BobSaget]

Defense and dick slide are comparing middle of the road bantams and pee weeks, to and 8th grader that just played in his first state tournament game, and stood out. That facts are that I'm right 99% of the time and those two clowns are right 1%. Start naming all your bantam and pee wee players since you've seen so many! Great comparison, elite varsity player vs. Pee wee and bantam player. Keep the intelligent comments coming, my brain is getting smaller by the minute.

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[RRubberbeeskit]

Defense and dick slide are comparing middle of the road bantams and pee weeks, to and 8th grader that just played in his first state tournament game, and stood out. That facts are that I'm right 99% of the time and those two clowns are right 1%. Start naming all your bantam and pee wee players since you've seen so many! Great comparison, elite varsity player vs. Pee wee and bantam player. Keep the intelligent comments coming, my brain is getting smaller by the minute.

Flash: Did you forget the Elite Varsity teams are playing tomorrow? Nelson is a nice player and time will tell if he ever is elite.

[defense]

Defense and dick slide are comparing middle of the road bantams and pee weeks, to and 8th grader that just played in his first state tournament game, and stood out. That facts are that I'm right 99% of the time and those two clowns are right 1%. Start naming all your bantam and pee wee players since you've seen so many! Great comparison, elite varsity player vs. Pee wee and bantam player. Keep the intelligent comments coming, my brain is getting smaller by the minute.

Actually I never compared anyone to anyone, just responded to the question of how many 8 th grade hockey players peak.
Which they do.
I think an important part of this debate would be to ask a question as loaded as this: How is the last eighth grader to play at state doing?
How about the last freshman who leads his team in scoring?

[defense]

Defense and dick slide are comparing middle of the road bantams and pee weeks, to and 8th grader that just played in his first state tournament game, and stood out. That facts are that I'm right 99% of the time and those two clowns are right 1%. Start naming all your bantam and pee wee players since you've seen so many! Great comparison, elite varsity player vs. Pee wee and bantam player. Keep the intelligent comments coming, my brain is getting smaller by the minute.

Actually I never compared anyone to anyone, just responded to the question of how many 8 th grade hockey players peak.
Which they do.
I think an important part of this debate would be to ask a question as loaded as this: How is the last eighth grader to play at state doing?
How about the last freshman who leads his team in scoring?

[forreal]

Jaxon Nelson is Special he is going to be the top 2000 birthdate in this State. He put on a greta show today was very impressed.

Now that's a pretty big claim, actually, considering the depth of the 2000 birth year around the state. Most are still playing PW or Bantam, of course... so, you know, hooray for early puberty and all that.

I think the kid -- and the team -- pleasantly surprised all of those who gave Luverne no chance. But let's try to keep things in perspective which is a continuing problem for 3A fans.

Interesting to think of other 2000s around the state who could shine on a 1A varsity team in an emerging part of the state.

He is the best 00' player in Minnesota and arguably he is top few in North America. He has gone to the top summer tournaments, played with and against the best players and teams his age, and has consistently been at the top. I think his biggest upside is his future. Given where he lives he has spent significantly less time on the ice than other players his age and thus is much further from his potential. Just my opinion, but he is the real deal!

[fastncrash]

Jaxon Nelson is Special he is going to be the top 2000 birthdate in this State. He put on a greta show today was very impressed.

Also been told HE WILL NOT be leaving Luverne. Good for 3A and SW MN Hockey

Wow! Blow me over with a feather! If the "self-proclaimed" 3A Hockey Trout says so, it must be true! I mean a person who picks this team to finish 7th in section 3A this year, and incorrectly picks against them 25+ times this year alone... YOUR words don't carry much weight.

The bottom line is there's a LOT of good players on this team, and will be more joining next year. Jaxon's a very special talent and IF you didn't hear (or understand) the words of one of the most respected scouts in Hockey, consider this... he was also the MVP of the Brick and they just don't hand that out to anyone. So, he's been on a stage even bigger than MN and opened eyes. He's been good, is good, and will continue to be good for a long time to come.

[fastncrash]

Jaxon Nelson is Special he is going to be the top 2000 birthdate in this State. He put on a greta show today was very impressed.

Now that's a pretty big claim, actually, considering the depth of the 2000 birth year around the state. Most are still playing PW or Bantam, of course... so, you know, hooray for early puberty and all that.

I think the kid -- and the team -- pleasantly surprised all of those who gave Luverne no chance. But let's try to keep things in perspective which is a continuing problem for 3A fans.

Interesting to think of other 2000s around the state who could shine on a 1A varsity team in an emerging part of the state.

He is the best 00' player in Minnesota and arguably he is top few in North America. He has gone to the top summer tournaments, played with and against the best players and teams his age, and has consistently been at the top. I think his biggest upside is his future. Given where he lives he has spent significantly less time on the ice than other players his age and thus is much further from his potential. Just my opinion, but he is the real deal!

He get's plenty of icetime.... right where he's at.

[defense]

Now that's a pretty big claim, actually, considering the depth of the 2000 birth year around the state. Most are still playing PW or Bantam, of course... so, you know, hooray for early puberty and all that.

I think the kid -- and the team -- pleasantly surprised all of those who gave Luverne no chance. But let's try to keep things in perspective which is a continuing problem for 3A fans.

Interesting to think of other 2000s around the state who could shine on a 1A varsity team in an emerging part of the state.

He is the best 00' player in Minnesota and arguably he is top few in North America. He has gone to the top summer tournaments, played with and against the best players and teams his age, and has consistently been at the top. I think his biggest upside is his future. Given where he lives he has spent significantly less time on the ice than other players his age and thus is much further from his potential. Just my opinion, but he is the real deal!

You have no idea what your talking about.

this

[forreal]

Now that's a pretty big claim, actually, considering the depth of the 2000 birth year around the state. Most are still playing PW or Bantam, of course... so, you know, hooray for early puberty and all that.

I think the kid -- and the team -- pleasantly surprised all of those who gave Luverne no chance. But let's try to keep things in perspective which is a continuing problem for 3A fans.

Interesting to think of other 2000s around the state who could shine on a 1A varsity team in an emerging part of the state.

He is the best 00' player in Minnesota and arguably he is top few in North America. He has gone to the top summer tournaments, played with and against the best players and teams his age, and has consistently been at the top. I think his biggest upside is his future. Given where he lives he has spent significantly less time on the ice than other players his age and thus is much further from his potential. Just my opinion, but he is the real deal!

He get's plenty of icetime.... right where he's at.

I think you misunderstood what I was saying. I certainly wasn't saying he hasn't gotten enough ice time. I was just saying, as good as he is right now, I believe he will improve a lot more than the kids that have skated 6 or 7 days a week for most of their youth. It's my thought that as he continues to play his potential is limitless.

[hshockeydagger]

Jaxon Nelson is Special he is going to be the top 2000 birthdate in this State. He put on a greta show today was very impressed.

Also been told HE WILL NOT be leaving Luverne. Good for 3A and SW MN Hockey

Wow! Blow me over with a feather! If the "self-proclaimed" 3A Hockey Trout says so, it must be true! I mean a person who picks this team to finish 7th in section 3A this year, and incorrectly picks against them 25+ times this year alone... YOUR words don't carry much weight.

The bottom line is there's a LOT of good players on this team, and will be more joining next year. Jaxon's a very special talent and IF you didn't hear (or understand) the words of one of the most respected scouts in Hockey, consider this... he was also the MVP of the Brick and they just don't hand that out to anyone. So, he's been on a stage even bigger than MN and opened eyes. He's been good, is good, and will continue to be good for a long time to come.

i may sound dumb here, but what is the brick you refer to