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Post by Section 3A HockeyScout »

Kraus was solid all year ... Maybe Wahl instead because of the team in front of him?

Congrats to Luverne proved their haters wrong, me :shock:, and gave us the best team to ever come out of Section 3A. They and 2009 Hutch each won one game at state. Luverne took it a step further by playing power house Hermantown in entertaining game on TV and taking Top 10 Private Power TG to Double OT!

Next year now looms
New Ulm Returns a TON of Talent! Hutch Returns a TON of Talent!

LDC, Redwood and Morris Benson all Bring Back good young talent that took their lumps this year.

Marshall and Willmar will look to be in Rebuild mode.

Then there is Luverne who as much as I hate to say will be a contender again.

Hutch and New Ulm will be BETTER next year. I dont know if you can say that about Luverne but they will be dangerous no doubt about it.

Should be a another fun year in 3A. Our Section is doing better on the big stage at State which is always fun to see even if it was the Red Annoying Cards doing it. Luverne thank you for putting on a good show but be ready Hutch and New Ulm will BE BACK BETTER THAN EVER!

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Post by timcorbin21 »

In sections when it meant the most after meyer it was allen and gooseman. i'd give the nod to allen. wahl had a tough last couple.
assuming most of luvernes underclassman come back they'll be bigger and stronger with a decent goaltender.
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Post by flash4000 »

I think Olson should've made it Nelson. Especially the second half of the season. Gunnar picked up his game to another level[/quote]

I'm confused by this statement.
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Post by notTONIGHT »

timcorbin21 wrote:In sections when it meant the most after meyer it was allen and gooseman. i'd give the nod to allen. wahl had a tough last couple.
assuming most of luvernes underclassman come back they'll be bigger and stronger with a decent goaltender.
Allen over kraus? The hutch goalie allen?
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Post by MrGoalieBoy »

You heard it here first, Luverne will have the best tender in the section AGAIN next year in Crabtree. The Smedsrud and Nelson line will return (two of the best offensive players in the section next year). I noticed #5 for Luverne had a really strong performance at sections and state tournament this year. That whole line returns....deadly. I've heard that Hutch had a pretty strong Bantam team? My top three preseason prediction goes like this:

1. Luverne
2. Hutchinson
3. New Ulm
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Post by lamplighter98 »

flash4000 wrote:I think Olson should've made it Nelson. Especially the second half of the season. Gunnar picked up his game to another level
I'm confused by this statement.[/quote]
sorry I was typing that on my phone. Olson should've made INSTEAD of Nelson. Especially his play over the last half of the season, section play. But, like it was pointed out. Ineligble during the season = ineligible post season awards
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Post by It's me not you »

[quote="lamplighter98"][quote="flash4000"]I think Olson should've made it Nelson. Especially the second half of the season. Gunnar picked up his game to another level[/quote]

I'm confused by this statement.[/quote]
sorry I was typing that on my phone. Olson should've made INSTEAD of Nelson. Especially his play over the last half of the season, section play. But, like it was pointed out. Ineligble during the season = ineligible post season awards[/quote]

No way Olson should be on this list over Nelson. You have to be willing to play defence. Do you even watch Hockey? ](*,)
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Post by hawkenjonny »

HAHA. Be willing to play defense to be a complete player absolutely, but if you look at the players chosen there are SEVERAL high scoring kids that only play one end of the ice. Very slow to get back and generally lazy on D. Only really skate when they have the puck or when they have a chance to score. If they are thinking juniors or college hockey they better change their ways because that won't fly. Finally saw Nelson play and he is a complete player. Runs the PP, on PK, and plays the whole ice. Should be fun to watch him develop. Nice run Cardinals, really enjoyed watching this team at the tourney. Maybe next year my team can get there.
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Post by Whiner33 »

lamplighter98 wrote:
flash4000 wrote:I think Olson should've made it Nelson. Especially the second half of the season. Gunnar picked up his game to another level
I'm confused by this statement.
sorry I was typing that on my phone. Olson should've made INSTEAD of Nelson. Especially his play over the last half of the season, section play. But, like it was pointed out. Ineligble during the season = ineligible post season awards[/quote]

Common boys...

Were you thinking all root beer float team?

Olson played NO defense ALL year!
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Post by whatsdefense »

Olson played NO defense all year? Did he honestly have to? When your offensive minded putting up points like he and the rest of his team did why would he or they worry about defense? Olson reminded me of "Sir" Patrick White his senior year at Grand Rapids. Offensive machine, but lazy on the back check and in the defensive zone. But with the numbers his team put up, why did he have to play defense? He was an offensive minded player and had a very positive career at the U despite his lack or effort on the defensive side of things. Like I said, Olson reminded me of the same type of player.
I played hockey and my teams were awful. We HAD to play d. With this section and how much Luverne dominated over every section opponent, why would a kid have to play defense? For 3 years the kids never had to worry about defense because their offense was too good. And with Meyer in net, Toby and Frakes on d, I'd tell the kids to focus on scoring as much as possible too. Besides, isn't it typically the wingers job to play high in the zone to guard the defenseman? Stupid to say a kid isn't "as good" because he isn't defense minded. Nobody on their team had to be until state.
Olson and Nelson were by far their best offensive players the second half of the year. If Olson didn't have off ice issues, he would have been near or at the top of the team in points. During the playoffs, who was Chaz smesrud? Nowhere to be found it seemed like. Weren't hearing his name as much. When a kid is putting up 5 goal games against the fairmonts and worthingtons, you'd expect more than 4-5 goals throughout the playoffs. I was hoping for more out of him. He looked like he was in an entirely different league at state. However, he will have an outstanding next 2 years and can't wait to see what he can do. Let Nelson grow into his body more and mature a bit, and there's no doubt he will be a top 5 player his senior year. With the return of those 2 and toby, Luverne will be the one to beat. I'm calling another Luverne at the x next year.
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Post by gingerroll »

whatsdefense wrote:Olson played NO defense all year? Did he honestly have to? When your offensive minded putting up points like he and the rest of his team did why would he or they worry about defense? Olson reminded me of "Sir" Patrick White his senior year at Grand Rapids. Offensive machine, but lazy on the back check and in the defensive zone. But with the numbers his team put up, why did he have to play defense? He was an offensive minded player and had a very positive career at the U despite his lack or effort on the defensive side of things. Like I said, Olson reminded me of the same type of player.
I played hockey and my teams were awful. We HAD to play d. With this section and how much Luverne dominated over every section opponent, why would a kid have to play defense? For 3 years the kids never had to worry about defense because their offense was too good. And with Meyer in net, Toby and Frakes on d, I'd tell the kids to focus on scoring as much as possible too. Besides, isn't it typically the wingers job to play high in the zone to guard the defenseman? Stupid to say a kid isn't "as good" because he isn't defense minded. Nobody on their team had to be until state.
Olson and Nelson were by far their best offensive players the second half of the year. If Olson didn't have off ice issues, he would have been near or at the top of the team in points. During the playoffs, who was Chaz smesrud? Nowhere to be found it seemed like. Weren't hearing his name as much. When a kid is putting up 5 goal games against the fairmonts and worthingtons, you'd expect more than 4-5 goals throughout the playoffs. I was hoping for more out of him. He looked like he was in an entirely different league at state. However, he will have an outstanding next 2 years and can't wait to see what he can do. Let Nelson grow into his body more and mature a bit, and there's no doubt he will be a top 5 player his senior year. With the return of those 2 and toby, Luverne will be the one to beat. I'm calling another Luverne at the x next year.
How dare someone call out the smesrud kid. Don't you know that will make misstonight mad.

Luverne will be the team to beat. Crabtree is a very good goalie and will fill in nicely next year with the talent that is coming back.
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Post by lamplighter98 »

whatsdefense wrote:Olson played NO defense all year? Did he honestly have to? When your offensive minded putting up points like he and the rest of his team did why would he or they worry about defense? Olson reminded me of "Sir" Patrick White his senior year at Grand Rapids. Offensive machine, but lazy on the back check and in the defensive zone. But with the numbers his team put up, why did he have to play defense? He was an offensive minded player and had a very positive career at the U despite his lack or effort on the defensive side of things. Like I said, Olson reminded me of the same type of player.
I played hockey and my teams were awful. We HAD to play d. With this section and how much Luverne dominated over every section opponent, why would a kid have to play defense? For 3 years the kids never had to worry about defense because their offense was too good. And with Meyer in net, Toby and Frakes on d, I'd tell the kids to focus on scoring as much as possible too. Besides, isn't it typically the wingers job to play high in the zone to guard the defenseman? Stupid to say a kid isn't "as good" because he isn't defense minded. Nobody on their team had to be until state.
Olson and Nelson were by far their best offensive players the second half of the year. If Olson didn't have off ice issues, he would have been near or at the top of the team in points. During the playoffs, who was Chaz smesrud? Nowhere to be found it seemed like. Weren't hearing his name as much. When a kid is putting up 5 goal games against the fairmonts and worthingtons, you'd expect more than 4-5 goals throughout the playoffs. I was hoping for more out of him. He looked like he was in an entirely different league at state. However, he will have an outstanding next 2 years and can't wait to see what he can do. Let Nelson grow into his body more and mature a bit, and there's no doubt he will be a top 5 player his senior year. With the return of those 2 and toby, Luverne will be the one to beat. I'm calling another Luverne at the x next year.
I think you need to go back and listen to and/or watch the games at state and in the playoffs. Just because Chaz wasn't getting his name called with the lamp lighting, he was VERY IMPORTANT and did MANY good things in the playoffs. So DO NOT CALL OUT CHAZ, and say he was no where to be found.
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Post by whatsdefense »

I don't know about this "misstonight" and quite frankly she can get upset with my post and I won't care. Just stating how I felt after following Luverne and watching them in state. Chaz is a great player, just didn't produce when it mattered most. He will get a couple more chances.
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Post by gingerroll »

whatsdefense wrote:I don't know about this "misstonight" and quite frankly she can get upset with my post and I won't care. Just stating how I felt after following Luverne and watching them in state. Chaz is a great player, just didn't produce when it mattered most. He will get a couple more chances.
Just the way the red army is. NOTallowed to say anything about the team unless it is praising them and calling them the best team to ever hit the ice.

Again they will be the team to beat in 3A the next few years.
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Post by notTONIGHT »

gingerroll wrote:
whatsdefense wrote:I don't know about this "misstonight" and quite frankly she can get upset with my post and I won't care. Just stating how I felt after following Luverne and watching them in state. Chaz is a great player, just didn't produce when it mattered most. He will get a couple more chances.
Just the way the red army is. NOTallowed to say anything about the team unless it is praising them and calling them the best team to ever hit the ice.

Again they will be the team to beat in 3A the next few years.
Hey cutie. You must know me. Come find me internet tough guy. I'll kindly DISCUSS it with you.
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Post by gingerroll »

notTONIGHT wrote:
gingerroll wrote:
whatsdefense wrote:I don't know about this "misstonight" and quite frankly she can get upset with my post and I won't care. Just stating how I felt after following Luverne and watching them in state. Chaz is a great player, just didn't produce when it mattered most. He will get a couple more chances.
Just the way the red army is. NOTallowed to say anything about the team unless it is praising them and calling them the best team to ever hit the ice.

Again they will be the team to beat in 3A the next few years.
Hey cutie. You must know me. Come find me internet tough guy. I'll kindly DISCUSS it with you.
Sorry the truth hurts.

I will go on record now saying Luverne is the team to beat.

But you should really go back and read your posts on here. You and 3A scout must be brothers.

And I would gladly talk hockey with you and you actually may learn something about how the game is played buddy.
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Post by notTONIGHT »

gingerroll wrote:
notTONIGHT wrote:
gingerroll wrote: Just the way the red army is. NOTallowed to say anything about the team unless it is praising them and calling them the best team to ever hit the ice.

Again they will be the team to beat in 3A the next few years.
Hey cutie. You must know me. Come find me internet tough guy. I'll kindly DISCUSS it with you.
Sorry the truth hurts.

I will go on record now saying Luverne is the team to beat.

But you should really go back and read your posts on here. You and 3A scout must be brothers.

And I would gladly talk hockey with you and you actually may learn something about how the game is played buddy.
Tell me more about how you know so much. You clearly like that.
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Post by gingerroll »

notTONIGHT wrote:
gingerroll wrote:
notTONIGHT wrote: Hey cutie. You must know me. Come find me internet tough guy. I'll kindly DISCUSS it with you.
Sorry the truth hurts.

I will go on record now saying Luverne is the team to beat.

But you should really go back and read your posts on here. You and 3A scout must be brothers.

And I would gladly talk hockey with you and you actually may learn something about how the game is played buddy.
Tell me more about how you know so much. You clearly like that.
So I guess you are the self proclaimed king of 3A hockey. You really need to get a clue. You rip on everybody on this board and it actually got very entertaining reading all of your posts.
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Post by notTONIGHT »

gingerroll wrote:
notTONIGHT wrote:
gingerroll wrote: Sorry the truth hurts.

I will go on record now saying Luverne is the team to beat.

But you should really go back and read your posts on here. You and 3A scout must be brothers.

And I would gladly talk hockey with you and you actually may learn something about how the game is played buddy.
Tell me more about how you know so much. You clearly like that.
So I guess you are the self proclaimed king of 3A hockey. You really need to get a clue. You rip on everybody on this board and it actually got very entertaining reading all of your posts.
To be self proclaimed I would have to proclaim it.


What are you saying? Say what you want to or be done.
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Post by gingerroll »

notTONIGHT wrote:
gingerroll wrote:
notTONIGHT wrote: Tell me more about how you know so much. You clearly like that.
So I guess you are the self proclaimed king of 3A hockey. You really need to get a clue. You rip on everybody on this board and it actually got very entertaining reading all of your posts.
To be self proclaimed I would have to proclaim it.


What are you saying? Say what you want to or be done.
This thread isn't allowed to have a normal discussion about the game. If anyone gives their opinion on a game you are the first to jump on them and tell them how they are wrong.

Did luverne prove me wrong? Yes they did

Hats off to their season and they earned everything they did this year. Do they lose a lot, not really the core of them is young and will produce the same next year. It would be nice if they would have a stronger schedule to improve their program.
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Post by notTONIGHT »

gingerroll wrote:
notTONIGHT wrote:
gingerroll wrote: So I guess you are the self proclaimed king of 3A hockey. You really need to get a clue. You rip on everybody on this board and it actually got very entertaining reading all of your posts.
To be self proclaimed I would have to proclaim it.


What are you saying? Say what you want to or be done.
This thread isn't allowed to have a normal discussion about the game. If anyone gives their opinion on a game you are the first to jump on them and tell them how they are wrong.

Did luverne prove me wrong? Yes they did

Hats off to their season and they earned everything they did this year. Do they lose a lot, not really the core of them is young and will produce the same next year. It would be nice if they would have a stronger schedule to improve their program.
Yeah. If only we could get Marshall off the schedule to free up two games for quality opponents. And if hutch isn't coming to bmia they're gone.

Should get better.
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Post by gingerroll »

notTONIGHT wrote:
Yeah. If only we could get Marshall off the schedule to free up two games for quality opponents. And if hutch isn't coming to bmia they're gone.

Should get better.
Always push to go Independant. Won't be able to get rid of lower teams as they are in Luverne conference. But sounds like long bus trips to try to schedule quality opponents.
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Post by whatsdefense »

[quote="lamplighter98"][quote="whatsdefense"]Olson played NO defense all year? Did he honestly have to? When your offensive minded putting up points like he and the rest of his team did why would he or they worry about defense? Olson reminded me of "Sir" Patrick White his senior year at Grand Rapids. Offensive machine, but lazy on the back check and in the defensive zone. But with the numbers his team put up, why did he have to play defense? He was an offensive minded player and had a very positive career at the U despite his lack or effort on the defensive side of things. Like I said, Olson reminded me of the same type of player.
I played hockey and my teams were awful. We HAD to play d. With this section and how much Luverne dominated over every section opponent, why would a kid have to play defense? For 3 years the kids never had to worry about defense because their offense was too good. And with Meyer in net, Toby and Frakes on d, I'd tell the kids to focus on scoring as much as possible too. Besides, isn't it typically the wingers job to play high in the zone to guard the defenseman? Stupid to say a kid isn't "as good" because he isn't defense minded. Nobody on their team had to be until state.
Olson and Nelson were by far their best offensive players the second half of the year. If Olson didn't have off ice issues, he would have been near or at the top of the team in points. During the playoffs, who was Chaz smesrud? Nowhere to be found it seemed like. Weren't hearing his name as much. When a kid is putting up 5 goal games against the fairmonts and worthingtons, you'd expect more than 4-5 goals throughout the playoffs. I was hoping for more out of him. He looked like he was in an entirely different league at state. However, he will have an outstanding next 2 years and can't wait to see what he can do. Let Nelson grow into his body more and mature a bit, and there's no doubt he will be a top 5 player his senior year. With the return of those 2 and toby, Luverne will be the one to beat. I'm calling another Luverne at the x next year.[/quote]

I think you need to go back and listen to and/or watch the games at state and in the playoffs. Just because Chaz wasn't getting his name called with the lamp lighting, he was VERY IMPORTANT and did MANY good things in the playoffs. So DO NOT CALL OUT CHAZ, and say he was no where to be found.
[/quote]

Ok, spaz. I think you need to settle down a bit. I wasn't calling anyone out. It's a forum is it not? Have I taken away from the kids great talent? No. I made a simple comment about how he put up unreal numbers during the regular season, and, as I was expecting the "same" output during playoffs, was rather disappointed that the lamp lighter found the net only once during state. If he could of put some away too when he had a chance there could have been a way different outcome. He didn't, it's over, calm down, he has 2 years left to do it.
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Post by lamplighter98 »

whatsdefense wrote:
lamplighter98 wrote:
whatsdefense wrote:
Ok, spaz. I think you need to settle down a bit. I wasn't calling anyone out. It's a forum is it not? Have I taken away from the kids great talent? No. I made a simple comment about how he put up unreal numbers during the regular season, and, as I was expecting the "same" output during playoffs, was rather disappointed that the lamp lighter found the net only once during state. If he could of put some away too when he had a chance there could have been a way different outcome. He didn't, it's over, calm down, he has 2 years left to do it.
spaz, that's a little harsh, but oh well it is a forum and that's ok. Actually , you did take away his talent when you said he didn't show up for the playoffs. Like I said just because the numbers weren't there doesn't mean the contribution wasn't. ((Zach Parise is one of the best in the NHL and doesn't lead the league in points).
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Post by notTONIGHT »

Goals and goals alone are the only way to measure a player.

Is this the title of training for day one of gingeroll and what's defenses school of hockey I was invited to?

Can't wait to hear more of the curriculum.....

Teach me how to hockey teach teach teach me how to hockey
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