Chemical Policy

bestpopcorn · Post by **bestpopcorn** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:43 am

Our school district is looking to revise our eligibility policy regarding liquor, tobacco and drugs. The current policy is stricter than the MSHSL rules.

Thoughts?

Defensive Zone · Post by **Defensive Zone** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:03 pm

Why would your school district re-think their policy? Has there been a problem(s)? Please explain. Thanks

puckbreath · Post by **puckbreath** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:13 pm

Are liquor, tobacco, and drugs currently ineligible to play ?
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almostashappy · Post by **almostashappy** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:25 pm

puckbreath wrote:Are liquor, tobacco, and drugs currently ineligible to play ?
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Nah, they're good. They moved the distillery into the school district, tobacco open-enrolled as a ninth grader, and drug's family was able to claim financial hardship after a flood of cheap Mexican narcotics hit the streets.

Winter is Coming · Post by **Winter is Coming** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:31 pm

almostashappy wrote:
puckbreath wrote:Are liquor, tobacco, and drugs currently ineligible to play ?
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Nah, they're good. They moved the distillery into the school district, tobacco open-enrolled as a ninth grader, and drug's family was able to claim financial hardship after a flood of cheap Mexican narcotics hit the streets.

Unless of course they play for a private A school in which case since they do not all come from the same zip code. That will cause problems for somebody I am sure.

bestpopcorn · Post by **bestpopcorn** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:37 pm

Policy is complex. First offense is 9 weeks unless you fulfill a few things, then it is 3. Everyone ends up at 3. Lots of paperwork. The policy should be simpler.

There is an increasing number of 2nd offenses.

They are looking to put something in place that is more of a deterrent. Maybe add more education.

I wonder if anything really works.

old goalie85 · Post by **old goalie85** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:39 pm

Forest Lake has had a # of 2nd offenses as well.

bestpopcorn · Post by **bestpopcorn** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:42 pm

My dad tells me..."When I was a kid, you were just DONE."

MNHockeyFan · Post by **MNHockeyFan** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:43 pm

I wonder what it will be like when medical marijuana is made legal. Will high school athletes be able to get a prescription for various "pain symptoms" and be exempt from any punishment?

BlueLineSpecial · Post by **BlueLineSpecial** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:48 pm

Drugs are bad, m'kay

almostashappy · Post by **almostashappy** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:49 pm

MNHockeyFan wrote:I wonder what it will be like when medical marijuana is made legal. Will high school athletes be able to get a prescription for various "pain symptoms" and be exempt from any punishment?

Eighteen-year old seniors who can legally drink in Mexico over Spring Break are still subject to MSHSL rules and policies if they are playing a Spring sport.

On the other hand, kids diagnosed with ADHD can take their Ritalin without worry, so....

MNHockeyFan · Post by **MNHockeyFan** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:31 pm

bestpopcorn wrote:My dad tells me..."When I was a kid, you were just DONE."

Your dad is telling the truth, at least for drinking. If you got caught you were off the team for the remainder of the year - no exceptions.

Froggy Richards · Post by **Froggy Richards** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:51 pm

bestpopcorn wrote:Policy is complex. First offense is 9 weeks unless you fulfill a few things, then it is 3. Everyone ends up at 3. Lots of paperwork. The policy should be simpler.

There is an increasing number of 2nd offenses.

They are looking to put something in place that is more of a deterrent. Maybe add more education.

I wonder if anything really works.

That is a really good question. I'm not sure if anything would really work. The only thing I can think of that MIGHT work is if you did get flat out banned for the whole year. That may make some kids think about it but as it is now they will take their chances. Where I grew up, the most fun we ever had in High School were the field and house parties. There was nothing quite like it and you were willing to take the risk. We used to chew on the bus on the way to and from games, that's how deterred we were by the rules. Even the kids who got caught didn't quit doing it. I mean, let's be honest. It's a lot of fun to get together with a bunch of people and drink beer and socialize. It was the most fun thing to do then and it's still the most fun thing to do now. Looking back we can all see that it would have been a lot smarter to wait until college, but kids will never see it that way.

I always found it interesting when a parent caught their kid and then called and told the school. I never understood this. If I catch my kid I will punish them severely in my own way, (which may be hypocrital, but hey, that's parenthood, right?) but I would never, ever consider turning them in to the school and having them miss sports. I think that would do more harm than good. I had a few friends get caught and saw how devastating it was to them, the way they felt about how they let down their teammates and how the adults thought of them. I know that some may say, "well, that's how you learn lessons," and I can't argue with that. But the problem is that they didn't learn their lesson. It's not like they stole something or killed someone. They did something that is a huge part of society and something that is marketed incessantly in the sports world. They just can't do it because they aren't a certain age. That just doesn't fly with High School aged kids and it never will.

bestpopcorn · Post by **bestpopcorn** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:56 pm

You can knock up your girl... just don't smoke afterwards.

Froggy Richards · Post by **Froggy Richards** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:15 pm

bestpopcorn wrote:You can knock up your girl... just don't smoke afterwards.

That's really funny that you brought that up. We had a kid in our High School who fathered a kid with a classmate during his senior year. At the awards banquet he was named Athlete of the Year. So he was bestowed with the highest honor an athlete could get in our school. But the kid who got caught having a Copenhagen was shamed and suspended for two weeks. I guess that's irony for you..........

nahc · Post by **nahc** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:30 pm

It is these exact discussions which keep me coming back to the forum!!!!! Outstanding comments!!!

bestpopcorn · Post by **bestpopcorn** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:39 pm

Froggy Richards wrote:
bestpopcorn wrote:You can knock up your girl... just don't smoke afterwards.
That's really funny that you brought that up. We had a kid in our High School who fathered a kid with a classmate during his senior year. At the awards banquet he was named Athlete of the Year. So he was bestowed with the highest honor an athlete could get in our school. But the kid who got caught having a Copenhagen was shamed and suspended for two weeks. I guess that's irony for you..........

Similar story here. Makes no sense at all. I told my son if he has to choose between a smoke or fathering a child, smoke away.

old goalie85 · Post by **old goalie85** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:46 pm