Trying to figure out the difference between East and West

[zambonidriver]

On the East side of the twin cities the strong programs are mainly private. The exception being Stillwater. On the west side of the cities the Strong programs are public. I wonder why?

[sinbin]

Are the 'B' schools Central?

[zambonidriver]

Sinbin I don't understand

[sinbin]

The privates BSM, Breck, and Blake, which have done OK over the years. I suppose that they are more West than East, but closer to DT Mpls.

[zambonidriver]

I guess those schools are west but I was thinking in terms of double A the big schools though I guess BSM did knock off Minnetonka.

[LZ94]

On the East side of the twin cities the strong programs are mainly private. The exception being Stillwater. On the west side of the cities the Strong programs are public. I wonder why?

Money.

[MNHockeyFan]

On the East side of the twin cities the strong programs are mainly private. The exception being Stillwater. On the west side of the cities the Strong programs are public. I wonder why?

Money.

I think school size + "demographics" have something to do with it. The Lake Conference has some of the largest enrollments in the state, including the top two: Wayzata and EP. Both are relatively wealthy. Minnetonka, Edina and Hopkins are not as large enrollment-wise, but they all have strong girls hockey traditions. These community youth programs have produced plenty of strong players and have been able to feed the three main private school hockey powers in the Minneapolis area: BSM in Class AA and Blake and Breck in Class A. It will be interesting to see if these recent trends continue....

[jg2112]

On the East side of the twin cities the strong programs are mainly private. The exception being Stillwater. On the west side of the cities the Strong programs are public. I wonder why?

Roseville has been strong for two decades.

Mounds View has gone to state 2 of the past 3 years, and had 2 losses the other year (2012-13).

Stillwater isn't the exception.

[sinbin]

As we all know, not all Sections are created equally.

[Sparlimb]

On the East side of the twin cities the strong programs are mainly private. The exception being Stillwater. On the west side of the cities the Strong programs are public. I wonder why?

yeah, why hasn't Roseville ever been good, or Irondale and Mounds View? White Bear, terrible. Or possibly you were wrong...

[zambonidriver]

I am talking the trend right now. Mounds view has had two good teams over the past how many years, Rosevilles program is on the decline. Hill Murray Has been on the rise and so has Cretin, White bear has been terrible since 02 woodbury is not a force Irondale has been good but not great. MTKA, Edina, EP, Wayzata, all major forces year in and year out. Just saying...

[luckyEPDad]

I am talking the trend right now. Mounds view has had two good teams over the past how many years, Rosevilles program is on the decline. Hill Murray Has been on the rise and so has Cretin, White bear has been terrible since 02 woodbury is not a force Irondale has been good but not great. MTKA, Edina, EP, Wayzata, all major forces year in and year out. Just saying...

The Lake conference was really strong last year. This year it will be less so, and the decline will probably continue for a while. Eden Prairie may peak this year. Minnetonka will be slightly weaker than they where last season. Hopkins is going to be a shadow of what it was last season. Wayzata will continue to be good, but underperform. Edina is impossible to predict. I would really like to be wrong, but I think that unlikely.

Hockey changes like the weather. Titans fall and new teams rise to fill their place. It wasn't long before their string of three consecutive state titles that Minnetonka couldn't put a good girls team on the ice at any level.

[hockeywild7]

Trends, if you want to call them that come and go. And the West side trend ended last year with Hill Murray winning the state title. I would strongly disagree with your opinions on Roseville and White Bear as well. I would not count Roseville out so fast and White Bear has had some excellent teams since 02'. I am pretty sure White Bear won 21 games 3 or 4 seasons ago, and has had a few 17 plus win seasons. Not to bad especially considering the conference they play in.

[brookyone]

Clear Western bias in this discussion.

[zambonidriver]

[quote="hockeywild7"]Trends, if you want to call them that come and go. And the West side trend ended last year with Hill Murray winning the state title. I would strongly disagree with your opinions on Roseville and White Bear as well. I would not count Roseville out so fast and White Bear has had some excellent teams since 02'. I am pretty sure White Bear won 21 games 3 or 4 seasons ago, and has had a few 17 plus win seasons. Not to bad especially considering the conference they play in.[/I beg to differ White Bear has been mediocre since 02. Had a step daughter graduate in 2010 should have been in the state tournament from 05 through 12 I agree Roseville has been a power but demographics and numbers are going to affect them soon. Woodbury can't get out of its own way. Will see on White Bear if they can retain their 2000 and 01 birth years ]