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This is an interesting conundrum as Shattuck-St. Mary's is a member of the MSHSL just not in hockey. Are hockey players then exempt from transfer rules? I wouldn't think so as Shattuck offers hockey and there is an exemption to the penalty if your school doesn't offer a sport I believe. There is a financial exemption for a transfer from private back to public in your home district though. Financial hardship is a hard to claim as most private schools work with such families and most have been denied from what I understand as the losing school is allowed to weigh in on the matter.
My guess is this is at the very least a MSHSL hearing and at the worse a court case. The MSHSL has denied returns from AAA teams in the past.....the Madison team is a prime example.
My guess is this is at the very least a MSHSL hearing and at the worse a court case. The MSHSL has denied returns from AAA teams in the past.....the Madison team is a prime example.
BlueLight you are correct-Bluelightspecial wrote:BP, I am wondering where you read that in the rules that you can transfer from SSM to any public or private and not have to sit a year of varsity? Not saying you didn't, I just don't see it. After last years mess on the girls side I hope there is something clearly stated somewhere!!
Being a member or not of MSHSL has nothing to do with the Transfer Rule. It is clearly stated in the MSHSL Handbook the family must move from one public school attendance area to another:
"B. A transfer student is eligible for varsity competition if:
(i) 9th Grade Option: The student is enrolling in 9th grade for the first time.
(ii) Family Residence Change: The student transfers from one public school district attendance area to another public
school district attendance area at any time during the calendar year in which there is a change of residence and
occupancy in Minnesota by the student’s parents. If the student’s parents move from one public school district
attendance area to another public school district attendance area, the student will be eligible in the new public school
attendance area or a non-public school if the student transfers at the same time the student’s parents establish a new
family residence. (Please see Definitions for further explanation.)
OR
If the parents move from one public school district attendance area to another public school district attendance area,
the student shall continue to be fully eligible if the student continues enrollment in the prior school for the balance of
the current marking period or for the balance of the academic school year. If the student elects either of the current
enrollment options above, the student will be fully eligible upon transfer to the new school in the public school district
attendance area where the student’s parents reside or a non-public school.
A student who elects not to transfer upon a parent’s change in residence shall continue to be eligible at the school in
which the student is currently enrolled."
There are some exemptions: Court order Residency Change for Child Protection; Divorced Parents, Proven Financial Hardship.
It is based completely on area of public school residency. You must move out of one area into another in order to be eligible no matter if you went to a public or non-public school (SSM is a non-public school).
C. If none of the provisions in Section (B) (above) are met, the student is ineligible for varsity competition for a
period of one (1) calendar year beginning with the first day of attendance at the new school.
(i) Students are immediately eligible for competition at the non-varsity level.
#17 in Bold also defines this in more detail
BOARD POLICY DEFINITIONS FOR BYLAW 111
1. Change of Change of Change of Residence. Residence. A Residence. change of residence is the actual physical relocation by the parents or guardians of a
student with the intent to reside indefinitely at a new residence in Minnesota and terminate all occupancy of a
previous residence. The change in residence must be bona fide, include other minor siblings and involve a transfer
from one public school district attendance area to another public school district attendance area.
2. For purposes of eligibility determinations, the residence of a student shall be the bona fide location of the residence
and must include occupancy by the students’ parents or guardians in the public school attendance area. Both
parents, except as otherwise provided herein, must physically reside at the residence on a regular basis for the
duration of the student’s enrollment.
3. If a student is married, the student’s residence is determined by the bona fide residence where the student and the
student’s spouse actually reside.
4. In determining whether a change in residence is bona fide, a member school and the League may consider, but
will not be limited to:
A. New mailing address of the parents or guardians
B. Voting registration of parents or guardians that coincides with the new residence
C. Driver’s license registration that coincides with the new residence
D. Purchase or rental agreements
E. Any other reliable evidence of residency
5. A marriage separation cannot be used for the purpose of establishing a new residence. A marriage separation cannot be used for the purpose of establishing a new residence.
6. Emancipated Student Emancipated Student. Emancipated Student An emancipated student is one who:
A. Has been a resident of the state of Minnesota for at least one full calendar year immediately preceding the date
in question, and
B. Is totally self-supporting. Criteria to determine if a student is self-supporting may include, but is not limited to:
1) A notarized statement from the parent(s) or guardian(s) that they provide none of the student’s support;
2) Verification of employment or other means of financial support from the student’s employer or supporting
agency;
3) Verification of rent payment by the student;
4) Verification from a school that the student is accepted to attend as a resident student on the grounds of
being emancipated;
5) Any other documentation requested by the Minnesota State High School League or member school.
7. If emancipated, a student’s residence is determined by the bona fide residence where the student actually resides.
Only MSHSL staff can determine emancipation status.MSHSL Emancipated Student status is reserved to those
situations that are outside of the student’s control that result in the student being on his or her own.
8. Good Standing. Good Standing. For Good Standing. purposes of this bylaw, the term “good standing” shall mean that on the official date of
withdrawal from the last school attended the student was fully eligible at that school under all of the conditions and
all of the eligibility requirements of that school as well as the eligibility requirements of the state activity association
of which that school is a member.
9. Guardianship. Guardianship. For Guardianship. purposes of this bylaw, guardianship or Power of Attorney shall not be accepted for the purpose
of establishing the residence of a student except when the guardianship has been established pursuant to a child
protection order placement in a foster home or a juvenile court disposition order.
10. High School. High School. A high High School. school shall include grades 9 through 12.
11. Parents. Parents. For Parents. purposes of this bylaw, parents shall mean both parents of the student. In the event of divorce, parent
shall be the parent with legal and physical custody of the student. In the case of a child protection order, parent
shall mean the facility assigned by a court pursuant to a child protection order, foster home placement or juvenile
court disposition order.
12. Power of Attorney. Power of Attorney. For Power of Attorney. purposes of this bylaw, guardianship shall not be accepted for the purpose of establishing
the residence of a student except when the guardianship has been established pursuant to a child protection order
placement in a foster home or a juvenile court disposition order.2013-2014 Minnesota State High School League Official Handbook www.MSHSL.org 25
100.00 Bylaws: General Eligibility
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13. Public Public School District Attendance Area. School District Attendance Area. The School District Attendance Area. term “public school district attendance area” shall be understood to
refer to the area assigned to a specific high school by a Board of Education and shall not refer to a school district
except in cases in which only one high school exists in a school district.
14. Receiving School. Receiving School. The high Receiving School. school now attended by the student is the “Receiving School.”
15. Residence. Residence. For Residence. purposes of eligibility, a student may only have one residence. To determine residence for
eligibility purposes, the public school district attendance area in which the home last occupied by both parents is
located shall be considered as the family’s residence.
16. Sending School. Sending School. The high Sending School. school last attended by the student is the “Sending School.”
17. Transfer Student. A Transfer Student. transfer student is one who discontinues enrollment and attendance in any high school, public
or non-public, located in a public school district attendance area and enrolls and attends classes in any high school in
Minnesota, or outside of MN. Essentially, a transfer occurs anytime the school of record changes.
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Sydney ... Have you heard of the financial hardship maneuver when trying to transfer from private school back to public? It has worked before and has worked again! I don't know anything but I'm confident this is how JO will be eligible to play for North Varsity.
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This is correct... I know of a kid who ran cross country for his high school, went to boarding school out east for a year and then transferred back. He was ineligible to participate for his high school. You do not have to be part of the Minnesota high school league for the transfer rule. Private to public you can claim hardship or move addresses, its that simple.Bluelightspecial wrote:A transfer student is one who discontinues enrollment and attendance in any high school, public or non-public, located in a public school district attendance area and enrolls and attends classes in any high school in Minnesota, or outside of MN. Essentially, a transfer occurs anytime the school of record changes.
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Who is JO? From a private school?OrangeKoolaid wrote:Sydney ... Have you heard of the financial hardship maneuver when trying to transfer from private school back to public? It has worked before and has worked again! I don't know anything but I'm confident this is how JO will be eligible to play for North Varsity.
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Oettinger was the goalie this past season for North who transferred from Farmington and is now at the NTDP. The player you're talking about who transferred from Shattuck is Ryan EdquistOrangeKoolaid wrote:2Boys1Girl ... forgive me if I get the spelling wrong but JO is Jake Oettinger. Jake is a goalie and transferred from Shattuck to Lakeville north.