Mr Hockey 2015
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Re: Malmquist Mr Hockey 2015
Really?! "that much ahead of the rest?"JaginCake wrote:Malmquist Mr Hockey 2015 versatile scorer, as he showed as a freshman and sophmore, all around player as a junior. Many years since Edina has had (Ranheim) a player who is just that much ahead of all the rest.
Great player, but not in his own league with the 10 or 12 kids that could be Mr. Hockey candidates.
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Re: Mr Hockey 2015
Getting closer to crunch time and I'm STILL not ready to reduce the size of my potential list. Thankfully, Bethune shortened it a bit for me.
*D1 Commitment
^2015 NHL Central Scouting Futures List
%2015 NHL Central Scouting Preliminary Watch List
#2014 NHL Central Scouting Final Draft List
(Elite League PPG)
I may get criticized for this, but I'm tempted to add a deep-sleeper pick in Blaine's Easton Brodzinski. Big brother Jonny was a late bloomer as well and Easton is currently tearing it up with the Blades. This pick is obviously contingent on Blaine having a great year as well as Easton clearly leading his team in points. That's not going to be easy with top juniors like Tufte and Notermann to compete with.
Code: Select all
Ben Newhouse D Benilde*
Griffin Slightham D Rochester Lourdes (0.50)
Jack Ahcan D Burnsville* (0.78)
Jack Sadek D Lakeville North*^% (0.40)
Jack McNeely D Lakeville North*^ (0.40)
Jacob Olson D Hill-Murray*% (0.56)
Sam Franta D Maple Grove (0.43)
Seamus Donohue D St. Thomas* (1.25)
Will Borgen D Moorhead* (0.43)
Chase Jungels F Benilde (1.00)
Christiano Versich F St. Thomas* (1.00)
Dixon Bowen F East Grand Forks*
Dylan Malmquist F Edina*#
Jack Poehling F Lakeville North* (0.00)
Jake Jaremko F Elk River% (2.40)
John Peterson F Holy Family
Kobe Roth F Warroad* (1.00)
Lucas Gillett F Rosemount (0.88)
Mark Kaske F Benilde (1.20)
Nick Poehling F Lakeville North* (1.11)
Peter Tufto F St. Thomas (1.60)
^2015 NHL Central Scouting Futures List
%2015 NHL Central Scouting Preliminary Watch List
#2014 NHL Central Scouting Final Draft List
(Elite League PPG)
I may get criticized for this, but I'm tempted to add a deep-sleeper pick in Blaine's Easton Brodzinski. Big brother Jonny was a late bloomer as well and Easton is currently tearing it up with the Blades. This pick is obviously contingent on Blaine having a great year as well as Easton clearly leading his team in points. That's not going to be easy with top juniors like Tufte and Notermann to compete with.
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Bethunes departure has muddied the waters.
Narrowing this list down to 10 is very difficult. Much more than recent years.
Then, narrowing down to predicting a winner even more difficult, but here are some comments and theories.
Bethunes departure increased the odds for Bowen , and about due for a Single A winner anyway
With so many good Dmen , none of them may stand out enough from the others to win
If both Poehlings do well as expected, will be hard to distinguish one to win. Also, if they keep up their frequent fighting, that will be a negative.
BSM candidates: unlikely to have a non obvious winner, since Besse won so recently
STA candidates: , might be hard to distinguish Versich from Tufto
Jaremko is now standing out as possibly the breakout preseason metro favorite. ( But Elk has had a winner before)
Malmquist definitely in the running with a great season. And no doubt Hornets will have a great record and ranking going into the voting, Also if committee wants to convey reward message for not departing early.
Darkhorses: John Peterson, with a great season which is definitely possible,, and if committee wants to give a nod to a "recently developing" program. Same could be said for Gillett
Past winners:
2014 Avery Peterson Grand Rapids
2013 Grant Besse Benilde-St. Margaret's
2012 Justin Kloos Lakeville South High School
2011 Kyle Rau Eden Prairie
2010 Nick Bjugstad Blaine
2009 Nick Leddy] Eden Prairie
2008 Aaron Ness Roseau
2007 Ryan McDonagh Cretin-Derham Hall
2006 David Fischer Apple Valley
2005 Brian Lee Moorhead
2004 Tom Gorowsky Centennial
2003 Nate Dey[ North St. Paul
2002 Gino Guyer Greenway (Coleraine)
2001 Marty Sertich Roseville
2000 Paul Martin Elk River
1999 Jeff Taffe Hastings
1998 Johnny Pohl Red Wing
1997 Aaron Miskovich Grand Rapids
1996 Dave Spehar Duluth East
1995 Erik Rasmussen St. Louis Park
1993 Nick Checco Bloomington Jefferson
1992 Brian Bonin White Bear Lake
1991 Darby Hendrickson Richfield
1990 Joe Dziedzic Minneapolis Edison
1989 Trent Klatt Osseo Senior High School
1988 Larry Olimb Warroad
1987 Kris Miller Greenway (Coleraine)
1986 George Pelawa Bemidji
1985 Tom Chorske Minneapolis Southwest
Narrowing this list down to 10 is very difficult. Much more than recent years.
Then, narrowing down to predicting a winner even more difficult, but here are some comments and theories.
Bethunes departure increased the odds for Bowen , and about due for a Single A winner anyway
With so many good Dmen , none of them may stand out enough from the others to win
If both Poehlings do well as expected, will be hard to distinguish one to win. Also, if they keep up their frequent fighting, that will be a negative.
BSM candidates: unlikely to have a non obvious winner, since Besse won so recently
STA candidates: , might be hard to distinguish Versich from Tufto
Jaremko is now standing out as possibly the breakout preseason metro favorite. ( But Elk has had a winner before)
Malmquist definitely in the running with a great season. And no doubt Hornets will have a great record and ranking going into the voting, Also if committee wants to convey reward message for not departing early.
Darkhorses: John Peterson, with a great season which is definitely possible,, and if committee wants to give a nod to a "recently developing" program. Same could be said for Gillett
Past winners:
2014 Avery Peterson Grand Rapids
2013 Grant Besse Benilde-St. Margaret's
2012 Justin Kloos Lakeville South High School
2011 Kyle Rau Eden Prairie
2010 Nick Bjugstad Blaine
2009 Nick Leddy] Eden Prairie
2008 Aaron Ness Roseau
2007 Ryan McDonagh Cretin-Derham Hall
2006 David Fischer Apple Valley
2005 Brian Lee Moorhead
2004 Tom Gorowsky Centennial
2003 Nate Dey[ North St. Paul
2002 Gino Guyer Greenway (Coleraine)
2001 Marty Sertich Roseville
2000 Paul Martin Elk River
1999 Jeff Taffe Hastings
1998 Johnny Pohl Red Wing
1997 Aaron Miskovich Grand Rapids
1996 Dave Spehar Duluth East
1995 Erik Rasmussen St. Louis Park
1993 Nick Checco Bloomington Jefferson
1992 Brian Bonin White Bear Lake
1991 Darby Hendrickson Richfield
1990 Joe Dziedzic Minneapolis Edison
1989 Trent Klatt Osseo Senior High School
1988 Larry Olimb Warroad
1987 Kris Miller Greenway (Coleraine)
1986 George Pelawa Bemidji
1985 Tom Chorske Minneapolis Southwest
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Bethune was my choice listed in the preseason preview book. So much for that.
Malmquist and Jaremko are next in line for me--we'll see how they progress from here on out. There are lots of good options after that--Versich, Olson, Sadek and McNeely, Jack Poehling, Roth, Gillett...
I don't think he'll win, but I agree with The Exiled One that Brodzinski should be somewhere in the conversation. I was surprised not to see him on an Elite League roster. Blaine won't be as deep as they were last year, but they have a handful of great prospects.
Malmquist and Jaremko are next in line for me--we'll see how they progress from here on out. There are lots of good options after that--Versich, Olson, Sadek and McNeely, Jack Poehling, Roth, Gillett...
I don't think he'll win, but I agree with The Exiled One that Brodzinski should be somewhere in the conversation. I was surprised not to see him on an Elite League roster. Blaine won't be as deep as they were last year, but they have a handful of great prospects.
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I have Dylan Malmquist as the front runner this year. I think his ability to either score, assistant, or play “D” on the ice makes him a triple threat. Dylan can dominate in small areas of the ice which creates problems for the other team to defend. I cannot help thinking of last year’s state championship game; Dylan was the best player on the ice. As they say, stars come out when it is time. Dylan Malmquist is my vote for Mr. Hockey 2015.WestMetro wrote:If Im right, the following 10 are D1 already, and could be considered the
likely early frontrunners for nomination. Again, chances are it would be split metro vote, favoring Bethune for the win if he has his usual good season.
Nick Poehling-F-Lakeville North
Jack Poehling-F-Lakeville North
Dylan Malmquist-F-Edina
Kobe Roth-F-Warroad
Jared Bethune-F-Warroad
Ben Newhouse-D-Benilde
Seamus Donohue-D-St. Thomas
Jack Sadek-D-Lakeville North
Jack McNeely-D-Lakeville North
Jacob Olson-D-Hill-Murray
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Okay, here goes... There are two ways to approach a preseason "top ten" candidates. One, you can try and guess who'll be the ten nominees for the Mr. Hockey Award at the end of the season. Or, you can try and guess the top ten who could ACTUALLY win it. Some of you might think these lists are the same, but I don't. The first list will be comprised of top statistical performers from good teams that are highly recognizable, but the players may NOT be regarded as legitimate pro prospects. This matters. The second list will have a lot of overlap, but there are several other factors to consider including pro potential, vote splitting, and other undefined variables.
So, though I think the first list would be easier in terms of getting a least a handful correct, the second list is a better option for ensuring that Mr. Hockey 2015 will be predicted correctly. Therefore, I'm going with the second type of list. Consequently, some of the guesses will look pretty stupid.
In no particular order...
Ben Newhouse - D - Benilde-St. Margaret's
• His LOOONNNNNGGGG shot involves the Red Knights remaining undefeated and Ben leading his team in scoring, by a fair margin, from the blueline. His pro potential is virtually zero so his competition will have to be virtually indistinguishable from each other.
Christiano Versich - F - St. Thomas Academy
• Like Newhouse, his team will have to perform extraordinarily well, but I don't think they will. He stands a pretty good chance of leading his team, and maybe the state, in scoring.
Dixon Bowen - F - East Grand Forks
• He'll tear up class A. However, he'll likely have to secure a D1 commitment before Mr. Hockey voting starts. Possible pro potential, but likely not.
Dylan Malmquist - F - Edina
• IMHO, he's the frontrunner by a fair margin. He and the Hornets will both do well. He has a lot of name recognition and a fair amount of pro potential.
Easton Brodzinski - F - Blaine
• My surprise dark horse. Like his brother Jonny, he's a bit of a late bloomer, but he's had a really solid off-season with the Blades. He's thin, but he has the frame to build a pro body. If he can lead the Bengals to a solid record and put up ridiculous numbers (both are big ifs), he could gain D1, pro, and Mr. Hockey attention.
Jack Poehling - F - Lakeville North
• Nick's having the better Elite League (partially due to Jack's injury), but Jack has very, very slightly more pro potential (though it's still virtually nill). Jack will have to lead his team (and his brother) in scoring by a fair margin. Again, Lakeville North will have to be solid, but that's a strong possibility.
Jack Sadek - D - Lakeville North
• Like McNeely, good pro potential. Unlike McNeely, he gets the benefit of Gopher bias.
Jacob Olson - D - Hill-Murray
• Having a very solid Elite League, Olson may prove to have the most pro-potential. I wonder if he'll be the Gopher first recruiting steal?
Jake Jaremko - F - Elk River
• Obviously killing it in Elite League and has pro potential. Elk River would have to have a very strong season for him to move into the frontrunner position, but he's currently my second favorite to win it.
Will Borgen - D - Moorhead
• As an SCSU fan, this is probably a homer pick. However, the kid is 6'3" and is having a good Elite League. His stock is only going to rise. Again, his success rides with his team's success.
Feel free to criticize! More importantly, tell me why Mr. Hockey 2015 is NOT on this list.
So, though I think the first list would be easier in terms of getting a least a handful correct, the second list is a better option for ensuring that Mr. Hockey 2015 will be predicted correctly. Therefore, I'm going with the second type of list. Consequently, some of the guesses will look pretty stupid.
In no particular order...
Ben Newhouse - D - Benilde-St. Margaret's
• His LOOONNNNNGGGG shot involves the Red Knights remaining undefeated and Ben leading his team in scoring, by a fair margin, from the blueline. His pro potential is virtually zero so his competition will have to be virtually indistinguishable from each other.
Christiano Versich - F - St. Thomas Academy
• Like Newhouse, his team will have to perform extraordinarily well, but I don't think they will. He stands a pretty good chance of leading his team, and maybe the state, in scoring.
Dixon Bowen - F - East Grand Forks
• He'll tear up class A. However, he'll likely have to secure a D1 commitment before Mr. Hockey voting starts. Possible pro potential, but likely not.
Dylan Malmquist - F - Edina
• IMHO, he's the frontrunner by a fair margin. He and the Hornets will both do well. He has a lot of name recognition and a fair amount of pro potential.
Easton Brodzinski - F - Blaine
• My surprise dark horse. Like his brother Jonny, he's a bit of a late bloomer, but he's had a really solid off-season with the Blades. He's thin, but he has the frame to build a pro body. If he can lead the Bengals to a solid record and put up ridiculous numbers (both are big ifs), he could gain D1, pro, and Mr. Hockey attention.
Jack Poehling - F - Lakeville North
• Nick's having the better Elite League (partially due to Jack's injury), but Jack has very, very slightly more pro potential (though it's still virtually nill). Jack will have to lead his team (and his brother) in scoring by a fair margin. Again, Lakeville North will have to be solid, but that's a strong possibility.
Jack Sadek - D - Lakeville North
• Like McNeely, good pro potential. Unlike McNeely, he gets the benefit of Gopher bias.
Jacob Olson - D - Hill-Murray
• Having a very solid Elite League, Olson may prove to have the most pro-potential. I wonder if he'll be the Gopher first recruiting steal?
Jake Jaremko - F - Elk River
• Obviously killing it in Elite League and has pro potential. Elk River would have to have a very strong season for him to move into the frontrunner position, but he's currently my second favorite to win it.
Will Borgen - D - Moorhead
• As an SCSU fan, this is probably a homer pick. However, the kid is 6'3" and is having a good Elite League. His stock is only going to rise. Again, his success rides with his team's success.
Feel free to criticize! More importantly, tell me why Mr. Hockey 2015 is NOT on this list.
Cant disagree with your 10, anymore than could disagree with your broader list of 20.
With Bethune now out, and for the reasons mentioned in my yesterday post, I think the three most likely winners (all included on your list of 10 ) are Bowen, Jaremko, and Malmquist.
If you pressed me, Id go with the order of likelihood listed above, but certainly not clearcut or obvious.
With Bethune now out, and for the reasons mentioned in my yesterday post, I think the three most likely winners (all included on your list of 10 ) are Bowen, Jaremko, and Malmquist.
If you pressed me, Id go with the order of likelihood listed above, but certainly not clearcut or obvious.
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Love this post....honest, accurate and great first hand opinion. Right or wrong!The Exiled One wrote:Okay, here goes... There are two ways to approach a preseason "top ten" candidates. One, you can try and guess who'll be the ten nominees for the Mr. Hockey Award at the end of the season. Or, you can try and guess the top ten who could ACTUALLY win it. Some of you might think these lists are the same, but I don't. The first list will be comprised of top statistical performers from good teams that are highly recognizable, but the players may NOT be regarded as legitimate pro prospects. This matters. The second list will have a lot of overlap, but there are several other factors to consider including pro potential, vote splitting, and other undefined variables.
So, though I think the first list would be easier in terms of getting a least a handful correct, the second list is a better option for ensuring that Mr. Hockey 2015 will be predicted correctly. Therefore, I'm going with the second type of list. Consequently, some of the guesses will look pretty stupid.
In no particular order...
Ben Newhouse - D - Benilde-St. Margaret's
• His LOOONNNNNGGGG shot involves the Red Knights remaining undefeated and Ben leading his team in scoring, by a fair margin, from the blueline. His pro potential is virtually zero so his competition will have to be virtually indistinguishable from each other.
Christiano Versich - F - St. Thomas Academy
• Like Newhouse, his team will have to perform extraordinarily well, but I don't think they will. He stands a pretty good chance of leading his team, and maybe the state, in scoring.
Dixon Bowen - F - East Grand Forks
• He'll tear up class A. However, he'll likely have to secure a D1 commitment before Mr. Hockey voting starts. Possible pro potential, but likely not.
Dylan Malmquist - F - Edina
• IMHO, he's the frontrunner by a fair margin. He and the Hornets will both do well. He has a lot of name recognition and a fair amount of pro potential.
Easton Brodzinski - F - Blaine
• My surprise dark horse. Like his brother Jonny, he's a bit of a late bloomer, but he's had a really solid off-season with the Blades. He's thin, but he has the frame to build a pro body. If he can lead the Bengals to a solid record and put up ridiculous numbers (both are big ifs), he could gain D1, pro, and Mr. Hockey attention.
Jack Poehling - F - Lakeville North
• Nick's having the better Elite League (partially due to Jack's injury), but Jack has very, very slightly more pro potential (though it's still virtually nill). Jack will have to lead his team (and his brother) in scoring by a fair margin. Again, Lakeville North will have to be solid, but that's a strong possibility.
Jack Sadek - D - Lakeville North
• Like McNeely, good pro potential. Unlike McNeely, he gets the benefit of Gopher bias.
Jacob Olson - D - Hill-Murray
• Having a very solid Elite League, Olson may prove to have the most pro-potential. I wonder if he'll be the Gopher first recruiting steal?
Jake Jaremko - F - Elk River
• Obviously killing it in Elite League and has pro potential. Elk River would have to have a very strong season for him to move into the frontrunner position, but he's currently my second favorite to win it.
Will Borgen - D - Moorhead
• As an SCSU fan, this is probably a homer pick. However, the kid is 6'3" and is having a good Elite League. His stock is only going to rise. Again, his success rides with his team's success.
Feel free to criticize! More importantly, tell me why Mr. Hockey 2015 is NOT on this list.
Karl, if you want to send me the new paragraph on Mr. Hockey, I can sub it in. We haven't gone to print yet!karl(east) wrote:Bethune was my choice listed in the preseason preview book. So much for that.
Malmquist and Jaremko are next in line for me--we'll see how they progress from here on out. There are lots of good options after that--Versich, Olson, Sadek and McNeely, Jack Poehling, Roth, Gillett...
I don't think he'll win, but I agree with The Exiled One that Brodzinski should be somewhere in the conversation. I was surprised not to see him on an Elite League roster. Blaine won't be as deep as they were last year, but they have a handful of great prospects.
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Donohue - D - STA. Your description for Newhouse could be used, certainly with his commitment to Air Force. However he is leading in scoring, both goals and points in the elite league among all D. And he missed nearly 1/4 of the games, 4 of 19 due to injury.The Exiled One wrote:Okay, here goes... There are two ways to approach a preseason "top ten" candidates. One, you can try and guess who'll be the ten nominees for the Mr. Hockey Award at the end of the season. Or, you can try and guess the top ten who could ACTUALLY win it. Some of you might think these lists are the same, but I don't. The first list will be comprised of top statistical performers from good teams that are highly recognizable, but the players may NOT be regarded as legitimate pro prospects. This matters. The second list will have a lot of overlap, but there are several other factors to consider including pro potential, vote splitting, and other undefined variables.
So, though I think the first list would be easier in terms of getting a least a handful correct, the second list is a better option for ensuring that Mr. Hockey 2015 will be predicted correctly. Therefore, I'm going with the second type of list. Consequently, some of the guesses will look pretty stupid.
In no particular order...
Ben Newhouse - D - Benilde-St. Margaret's
• His LOOONNNNNGGGG shot involves the Red Knights remaining undefeated and Ben leading his team in scoring, by a fair margin, from the blueline. His pro potential is virtually zero so his competition will have to be virtually indistinguishable from each other.
Christiano Versich - F - St. Thomas Academy
• Like Newhouse, his team will have to perform extraordinarily well, but I don't think they will. He stands a pretty good chance of leading his team, and maybe the state, in scoring.
Dixon Bowen - F - East Grand Forks
• He'll tear up class A. However, he'll likely have to secure a D1 commitment before Mr. Hockey voting starts. Possible pro potential, but likely not.
Dylan Malmquist - F - Edina
• IMHO, he's the frontrunner by a fair margin. He and the Hornets will both do well. He has a lot of name recognition and a fair amount of pro potential.
Easton Brodzinski - F - Blaine
• My surprise dark horse. Like his brother Jonny, he's a bit of a late bloomer, but he's had a really solid off-season with the Blades. He's thin, but he has the frame to build a pro body. If he can lead the Bengals to a solid record and put up ridiculous numbers (both are big ifs), he could gain D1, pro, and Mr. Hockey attention.
Jack Poehling - F - Lakeville North
• Nick's having the better Elite League (partially due to Jack's injury), but Jack has very, very slightly more pro potential (though it's still virtually nill). Jack will have to lead his team (and his brother) in scoring by a fair margin. Again, Lakeville North will have to be solid, but that's a strong possibility.
Jack Sadek - D - Lakeville North
• Like McNeely, good pro potential. Unlike McNeely, he gets the benefit of Gopher bias.
Jacob Olson - D - Hill-Murray
• Having a very solid Elite League, Olson may prove to have the most pro-potential. I wonder if he'll be the Gopher first recruiting steal?
Jake Jaremko - F - Elk River
• Obviously killing it in Elite League and has pro potential. Elk River would have to have a very strong season for him to move into the frontrunner position, but he's currently my second favorite to win it.
Will Borgen - D - Moorhead
• As an SCSU fan, this is probably a homer pick. However, the kid is 6'3" and is having a good Elite League. His stock is only going to rise. Again, his success rides with his team's success.
Feel free to criticize! More importantly, tell me why Mr. Hockey 2015 is NOT on this list.
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Agreed, though I think the odds of him leading STA in scoring by a fair margin are very long with Versich on the team. Newhouse has a better chance with BSM. Also, I think BSM is going to better than STA. Because of that, I wouldn't put him ahead of the others on my list.Just Checking wrote:Donohue - D - STA. Your description for Newhouse could be used, certainly with his commitment to Air Force. However he is leading in scoring, both goals and points in the elite league among all D. And he missed nearly 1/4 of the games, 4 of 19 due to injury.
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I'd disagree that BSM will be better than STA, in regards to record.
STA has an Alabama SEC schedule while BSM is more like a PAC10 team where every game on the nod is a good one.
I'd say that STA will lose no more than 3-4 games max, while BSM could in theory go .500 while never leaving the top 10.
Versish is going to pile up points in a weak conference, as he should..they (STA) will likely win 15 or more games by 4 or more goals..BSM will be in a bunch of 1-2 goal grinders.
Just a thought..
STA has an Alabama SEC schedule while BSM is more like a PAC10 team where every game on the nod is a good one.
I'd say that STA will lose no more than 3-4 games max, while BSM could in theory go .500 while never leaving the top 10.
Versish is going to pile up points in a weak conference, as he should..they (STA) will likely win 15 or more games by 4 or more goals..BSM will be in a bunch of 1-2 goal grinders.
Just a thought..
Nice list, although whether he deserves it or not, Nick Poehling will also end up as a top 10 finalist partially due to his brother Jack likely being a top 10 finalist and partially due to LN and the season they will likely have...IMO both boys are certainly deserving of being a final 10 candidate...
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'Sats81 wrote:Nice list, although whether he deserves it or not, Nick Poehling will also end up as a top 10 finalist partially due to his brother Jack likely being a top 10 finalist and partially due to LN and the season they will likely have...IMO both boys are certainly deserving of being a final 10 candidate...
...and I don't disagree with you, but that's why I prefaced my list with a description of the two types of lists. I agree that Nick and Jack could both be nominated, but I don't think Nick's odds of winning are as good as Jack's. In fact, Jack's situation will prevent Nick from winning.
Repeating my post from the 14th. Agree with Exiled One's comments about different types of lists. Also, have to look at all subtleties and momemtums which the "suits" and all voters will be faced with. ( Of course we are all fast forwarding assuming these players all have their predicted good seasons. ) I tend to think either both Poehlings will be nominated , or neither. If they are both nominated, I don't think either will win, it will be seemingly too hard or too unfair to distinguish, and their fighting history could also work against them That's one of the reasons Im going with 1st most likely Bowen, 2nd Jaremko, and then 3rd Malmquist.
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Bethunes departure has muddied the waters.
Bethunes departure increased the odds for Bowen , and about due for a Single A winner anyway
With so many good Dmen , none of them may stand out enough from the others to win
If both Poehlings do well as expected, will be hard to distinguish one to win. Also, if they keep up their frequent fighting, that will be a negative.
BSM candidates: unlikely to have a non obvious winner, since Besse won so recently
STA candidates: , might be hard to distinguish Versich from Tufto
Jaremko is now standing out as possibly the breakout preseason metro favorite. ( But Elk has had a winner before)
Malmquist definitely in the running with a great season. And no doubt Hornets will have a great record and ranking going into the voting, Also if committee wants to convey reward message for not departing early.
Darkhorses: John Peterson, with a great season which is definitely possible,, and if committee wants to give a nod to a "recently developing" program. Same could be said for Gillett
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 6:22 pm
Bethunes departure has muddied the waters.
Bethunes departure increased the odds for Bowen , and about due for a Single A winner anyway
With so many good Dmen , none of them may stand out enough from the others to win
If both Poehlings do well as expected, will be hard to distinguish one to win. Also, if they keep up their frequent fighting, that will be a negative.
BSM candidates: unlikely to have a non obvious winner, since Besse won so recently
STA candidates: , might be hard to distinguish Versich from Tufto
Jaremko is now standing out as possibly the breakout preseason metro favorite. ( But Elk has had a winner before)
Malmquist definitely in the running with a great season. And no doubt Hornets will have a great record and ranking going into the voting, Also if committee wants to convey reward message for not departing early.
Darkhorses: John Peterson, with a great season which is definitely possible,, and if committee wants to give a nod to a "recently developing" program. Same could be said for Gillett
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It's also worth noting that no team has ever had more than 2 finalists, even though there have been a handful of teams over the years that have had 3+ players who could probably qualify. I'd rank Jack and the two defensemen ahead of Nick for North, so barring a surprise or injuries to some of the others, it's unlikely he'll crack the list.The Exiled One wrote:'Sats81 wrote:Nice list, although whether he deserves it or not, Nick Poehling will also end up as a top 10 finalist partially due to his brother Jack likely being a top 10 finalist and partially due to LN and the season they will likely have...IMO both boys are certainly deserving of being a final 10 candidate...
...and I don't disagree with you, but that's why I prefaced my list with a description of the two types of lists. I agree that Nick and Jack could both be nominated, but I don't think Nick's odds of winning are as good as Jack's. In fact, Jack's situation will prevent Nick from winning.
A surprise stat I dug up today while revising a preseason prediction: Edina has never had a Mr. Hockey winner.
There is no way McNeely and/or Sadek make it and Nick Poehling doesn't.karl(east) wrote:It's also worth noting that no team has ever had more than 2 finalists, even though there have been a handful of teams over the years that have had 3+ players who could probably qualify. I'd rank Jack and the two defensemen ahead of Nick for North, so barring a surprise or injuries to some of the others, it's unlikely he'll crack the list.The Exiled One wrote:'Sats81 wrote:Nice list, although whether he deserves it or not, Nick Poehling will also end up as a top 10 finalist partially due to his brother Jack likely being a top 10 finalist and partially due to LN and the season they will likely have...IMO both boys are certainly deserving of being a final 10 candidate...
...and I don't disagree with you, but that's why I prefaced my list with a description of the two types of lists. I agree that Nick and Jack could both be nominated, but I don't think Nick's odds of winning are as good as Jack's. In fact, Jack's situation will prevent Nick from winning.
A surprise stat I dug up today while revising a preseason prediction: Edina has never had a Mr. Hockey winner.
This debate is why I elected to make my earlier comments towards the likely winner, rather than naming the 10 candidates
We could continue to debate at length which of the standout LVN stars will make the candidate list. Frankly , I could make the case for all four. After all, its McNeeley and Sadek that are on the NHL Draftwatch list.
But, agree with Karl will never be more than two. No matter which two, will be endless second guessing. And whichever the two are, I don't think either will be the winner .
Given the info we have now and assuming everyone has the expected good season, the voting committee members will look towards more of a public consensus and individual breakout contribution to team success. Rather than one from a team full of senior superstars. Also, LVN fighting history has left a bad taste for many.
That's why, among other reasons, Bowen, Jaremko and Malmquist would be frontrunners.
I personally think Bethunes departure has greatly increased Bowens chances. EGF is now odds on favorite for Section 8 and Single A championship again. Additionally, voters were warming up for a Single A Mr Hockey vote anyway, and so likely to strongly consider Bowen as a substitution. Jaremko would be next most likely, then Malmquist.
We could continue to debate at length which of the standout LVN stars will make the candidate list. Frankly , I could make the case for all four. After all, its McNeeley and Sadek that are on the NHL Draftwatch list.
But, agree with Karl will never be more than two. No matter which two, will be endless second guessing. And whichever the two are, I don't think either will be the winner .
Given the info we have now and assuming everyone has the expected good season, the voting committee members will look towards more of a public consensus and individual breakout contribution to team success. Rather than one from a team full of senior superstars. Also, LVN fighting history has left a bad taste for many.
That's why, among other reasons, Bowen, Jaremko and Malmquist would be frontrunners.
I personally think Bethunes departure has greatly increased Bowens chances. EGF is now odds on favorite for Section 8 and Single A championship again. Additionally, voters were warming up for a Single A Mr Hockey vote anyway, and so likely to strongly consider Bowen as a substitution. Jaremko would be next most likely, then Malmquist.
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http://www.minnesotaminutemen.com/page/ ... -mr-hockeyTraxler wrote:Who votes for Mr. Hockey? Is it Minnesota media members and coaches?
Minnesota Minutemen wrote:The recipients are reviewed and selected by a group of National Hockey League scouts, Division I coaches, Division 3 coaches and USHL scouts.
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Here's Chris Dilks' take on the Mr. Hockey race...
http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/high-sc ... ke-jaremko
1. Dylan Malmquist, Forward, Edina High School(Committed to Notre Dame)
2. Jack McNeely, Defenseman, Lakeville North High School(Committed to Nebraska Omaha)
3. Jack Sadek, Defenseman, Lakeville North High School(Committed to Minnesota)
4. Jake Jaremko, Forward, Elk River High School(Committed to Minnesota State)
5. Dixon Bowen, Forward, East Grand Forks High School(Committed to North Dakota)
6. Seamus Donohue, Defenseman, St. Thomas Academy(Committed to Air Force)
7. Kobe Roth, Forward, Warroad High School(Committed to Minnesota Duluth)
8. Jacob Olson, Defenseman, Hill-Murray School(Committed to Michigan Tech)
9. Will Borgen, Defenseman, Moorhead High School(Committed to St. Cloud State)
10. Christiano Versich, Forward, St. Thomas Academy(Committed to Colorado College)
http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/high-sc ... ke-jaremko
1. Dylan Malmquist, Forward, Edina High School(Committed to Notre Dame)
2. Jack McNeely, Defenseman, Lakeville North High School(Committed to Nebraska Omaha)
3. Jack Sadek, Defenseman, Lakeville North High School(Committed to Minnesota)
4. Jake Jaremko, Forward, Elk River High School(Committed to Minnesota State)
5. Dixon Bowen, Forward, East Grand Forks High School(Committed to North Dakota)
6. Seamus Donohue, Defenseman, St. Thomas Academy(Committed to Air Force)
7. Kobe Roth, Forward, Warroad High School(Committed to Minnesota Duluth)
8. Jacob Olson, Defenseman, Hill-Murray School(Committed to Michigan Tech)
9. Will Borgen, Defenseman, Moorhead High School(Committed to St. Cloud State)
10. Christiano Versich, Forward, St. Thomas Academy(Committed to Colorado College)