What is the biggest controversial from around youth hockey?

Mnhockeys · Post by **Mnhockeys** » Sat Jan 17, 2015 1:28 pm

What is the biggest controversial this season around the land of hockey?

Anything interesting around the JSR's territory of badger land?

edgeless2 · Post by **edgeless2** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 1:44 pm

Unbalanced B teams.
Large associations bypassing A level hockey and then beating their chests while mopping up at B1.
D6 Reffing
Parents v Parents fights
Parents v Coaches fights
The Wild and Gophers sucking with tons of talent

No particular order

JSR · Post by **JSR** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:22 am

The Badgers suck and fans are calling for Mike Eaves head.... that is about it, everything else is par for the course...

Nevertoomuchhockey · Post by **Nevertoomuchhockey** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 11:57 am

Eligibility investigations and illegal transfers/cheating issues flowing down from MSHSL to youth teams.
I can't believe I ever found this unbelievable.

jg2112 · Post by **jg2112** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:00 pm

edgeless2 wrote:Unbalanced B teams.
Large associations bypassing A level hockey and then beating their chests while mopping up at B1.
D6 Reffing
Parents v Parents fights
Parents v Coaches fights
The Wild and Gophers sucking with tons of talent

No particular order

I think if you looked hard enough you could also find unbalanced A teams. Isn't that not allowed?

dlow · Post by **dlow** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:57 pm

edgeless2 wrote:Unbalanced B teams.
Large associations bypassing A level hockey and then beating their chests while mopping up at B1.
D6 Reffing
Parents v Parents fights
Parents v Coaches fights
The Wild and Gophers sucking with tons of talent

No particular order

I think the problem is not unbalanced B teams, but too many wanting to go AA and A. My opinion, there should less than 10 associations with AA and A (follow the original intent of the change).

Sats81 · Post by **Sats81** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 11:16 am

Tony Scott

moosepaw · Post by **moosepaw** » Mon Jan 26, 2015 9:40 pm

Minnesota Hockey leadership has to be the biggest point of conversation.

They are out of touch with realty, the play off system with AA and A, need to come up with a better system. Take the top 64 associations according to total hockey players and make them AA. Th rest is A. This way you will be able to compare apples to apples. Who is the best with the same number of kids.

Minnesota Hockey leadership needs to take a hard look at what we are doing we only had 2 kids make the worldjuniorchampionship. I know currently of 2 people high up in Minnesota Hockey that have really no understanding of the development needs that are changing in the market place. 1 has kids that were benders and he is high up in Minnesota hockey his kids never played varsity and he tells us what we need to do.

I have talked to several HS coaches that are concerned about Minnesota Hockey leadership.

JSR · Post by **JSR** » Tue Jan 27, 2015 9:25 am

moosepaw wrote:Minnesota Hockey leadership has to be the biggest point of conversation.

They are out of touch with realty, the play off system with AA and A, need to come up with a better system. Take the top 64 associations according to total hockey players and make them AA. Th rest is A. This way you will be able to compare apples to apples. Who is the best with the same number of kids.

Minnesota Hockey leadership needs to take a hard look at what we are doing we only had 2 kids make the worldjuniorchampionship. I know currently of 2 people high up in Minnesota Hockey that have really no understanding of the development needs that are changing in the market place. 1 has kids that were benders and he is high up in Minnesota hockey his kids never played varsity and he tells us what we need to do.

I have talked to several HS coaches that are concerned about Minnesota Hockey leadership.

MN Hockey leadership may or may not need to be changed or revamped. But the talent level of ones children has NOTHING to do with how good a leader a person is or whether or not their vision is or is not a good one. That statement was beyond ridiculous

moosepaw · Post by **moosepaw** » Tue Jan 27, 2015 12:20 pm

I think if you name the person it can be taken the wrong way, what we are saying is if you cant develop your own kid how can you possible make decisions on whats best for all the kids in Minnesota. We had a District Director who never played hockey but his kids did and this gives him the ability to make the right decisions. Leadership and vision that comes with experience, not just having kids play hockey for 10 years.

Mnhockeys · Post by **Mnhockeys** » Sun Feb 01, 2015 7:34 pm

The "Smart" (or dumbass) bracket setup by the host association for Bantam AA division in Moose Goheen tournament?

JSR · Post by **JSR** » Mon Feb 02, 2015 1:13 pm

moosepaw wrote:I think if you name the person it can be taken the wrong way, what we are saying is if you cant develop your own kid how can you possible make decisions on whats best for all the kids in Minnesota. We had a District Director who never played hockey but his kids did and this gives him the ability to make the right decisions. Leadership and vision that comes with experience, not just having kids play hockey for 10 years.

Again how ones kid develops is still up to the kid and his passion for the game and his work ethic. One of the best hockey visionaries/coaches/USA Hockey admins I know has a son who is below average in the game. He makes some of the best decisions in the world for hockey as far as I am concerned and it has nothing to do with how good or bad his kid is. Another guy I know whom I respect immensely in the hockey world, his son plays basketball and football, I am not going to stop looking to him for advice or direction in hockey though just because of that. Again it's a ludicrous statement. How good ones son or daughter is has ZERO relevance on how good their vision or advice is. They may have a terrible vision or bad advice but it has nothing to do with the development of their own child. This type of logic shouldn't even be entertained.

nobody · Post by **nobody** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 9:42 am

MM has changed the metro hockey world, and is gaining momentum.

Tron · Post by **Tron** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 9:53 am

nobody wrote:MM has changed the metro hockey world, and is gaining momentum.

keep telling yourselves that

massalsa · Post by **massalsa** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 12:56 pm

Tron wrote:
nobody wrote:MM has changed the metro hockey world, and is gaining momentum.
keep telling yourselves that

I don't know about the gaining momentum part but certainly it has changed a lot of things in the Metro hockey world. The #s of kids that come thru their program are significant and many of the super high end kids have hardly played any association hockey the last couple of years and in some cases I have heard that they may not end up playing HS hockey (makes me sort of sad).

The older girls that have come thru the winter programs (may or may not play summer with Machine) almost always have been impact players when they go back to association.