Section 3A 2014 - 2015
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I am a bit surprised that Marshall beat Waseca 5-3 on Saturday, in Marshall. Marshall looked pretty bad the last time that I saw them play. Hopefully, they do pull it together for the final stretch of the season.
Another surprise is that Fairmont won a game, beating Wadena-Deer Creek 2-1. That is only their 3rd win of the season, so GOOD FOR THEM!!
Another surprise is that Fairmont won a game, beating Wadena-Deer Creek 2-1. That is only their 3rd win of the season, so GOOD FOR THEM!!
Pretty dead around here.
Luverne playing Worthington tonight, lets see how many goals they can put up tonight.
Hutch has a rematch with Delano tonight, who beat them 5-0 in Delano earlier in the year. Wonder who will start in net for Hutch.
Litchfield plays HF, we'll see how much Litch has improved over the course of the year and can keep it close with HF.
Willmar has Sartell on the docket tonight, who beat them 7-0 earlier in the year and is one of the top teams in 6A.
New Ulm has Windom, who've they've already pumped once this year.
last but not least, Marshall has Morris, with a decent bus ride ahead of them.
Luverne playing Worthington tonight, lets see how many goals they can put up tonight.
Hutch has a rematch with Delano tonight, who beat them 5-0 in Delano earlier in the year. Wonder who will start in net for Hutch.
Litchfield plays HF, we'll see how much Litch has improved over the course of the year and can keep it close with HF.
Willmar has Sartell on the docket tonight, who beat them 7-0 earlier in the year and is one of the top teams in 6A.
New Ulm has Windom, who've they've already pumped once this year.
last but not least, Marshall has Morris, with a decent bus ride ahead of them.
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Best chance of upset??bardown27 wrote:Pretty dead around here.
Luverne playing Worthington tonight, lets see how many goals they can put up tonight.
Hutch has a rematch with Delano tonight, who beat them 5-0 in Delano earlier in the year. Wonder who will start in net for Hutch.
Litchfield plays HF, we'll see how much Litch has improved over the course of the year and can keep it close with HF.
Willmar has Sartell on the docket tonight, who beat them 7-0 earlier in the year and is one of the top teams in 6A.
New Ulm has Windom, who've they've already pumped once this year.
last but not least, Marshall has Morris, with a decent bus ride ahead of them.
I would say Morris can Roll with Marshall, and I dont count out Windom...
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notTONIGHT wrote:The evening before the High School season kicks off, I’d like to write a few words that can be cited throughout the season.
The Big South Conference is made up of 8 teams. IMO 4 of those teams can be classified as "Competitive." Those squads are New Ulm, LSPH, Marshall, and Luverne. Some of the games between the “competitive” teams will also be blowouts.
Every team in the conference is required to play each team two times. That occupies 14 games of the 25 allowed by the MSHSL. I find it absurd to believe that 7 games a season, a team should only play their top players one period, if that. If New Ulm jumps out to a 6 nothing lead against Fairmont in the first period, should they be forced to shut their top 2 lines down, knowing that this will happen SEVEN MORE TIMES THIS YEAR?! . That’s Fourteen Periods a season that their top guys are forced to watch. When you do the math that is just shy of 20% of the season. If you believe only playing 80% of your season at full speed is displaying respect for the game you love, you need to show yourself out of this forum.
The unfortunate truth is that the results of these blowouts are simply a product of decisions made by adults sitting on Association Boards. I hope these ugly results can prove to be a motivator for programs in the South that need to adjust their policies to better suit their programs.
Nothing would impress the state of hockey more than having one of the teams projected to struggle beat one of the teams projected to shine! Good luck to all of the Conference, and the rest of Section 3A!
Just a reminder....
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Talking about the 17-0 beating Sartell put on Willmar last night?notTONIGHT wrote:notTONIGHT wrote:The evening before the High School season kicks off, I’d like to write a few words that can be cited throughout the season.
The Big South Conference is made up of 8 teams. IMO 4 of those teams can be classified as "Competitive." Those squads are New Ulm, LSPH, Marshall, and Luverne. Some of the games between the “competitive” teams will also be blowouts.
Every team in the conference is required to play each team two times. That occupies 14 games of the 25 allowed by the MSHSL. I find it absurd to believe that 7 games a season, a team should only play their top players one period, if that. If New Ulm jumps out to a 6 nothing lead against Fairmont in the first period, should they be forced to shut their top 2 lines down, knowing that this will happen SEVEN MORE TIMES THIS YEAR?! . That’s Fourteen Periods a season that their top guys are forced to watch. When you do the math that is just shy of 20% of the season. If you believe only playing 80% of your season at full speed is displaying respect for the game you love, you need to show yourself out of this forum.
The unfortunate truth is that the results of these blowouts are simply a product of decisions made by adults sitting on Association Boards. I hope these ugly results can prove to be a motivator for programs in the South that need to adjust their policies to better suit their programs.
Nothing would impress the state of hockey more than having one of the teams projected to struggle beat one of the teams projected to shine! Good luck to all of the Conference, and the rest of Section 3A!
Just a reminder....
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it wasn't so much as Sartell running up the score as it was them scoring on what seemed like every shot on net. They played the 4th line in both the second and third periodsBuffaloRidgeHockey wrote:Talking about the 17-0 beating Sartell put on Willmar last night?notTONIGHT wrote:notTONIGHT wrote:The evening before the High School season kicks off, I’d like to write a few words that can be cited throughout the season.
The Big South Conference is made up of 8 teams. IMO 4 of those teams can be classified as "Competitive." Those squads are New Ulm, LSPH, Marshall, and Luverne. Some of the games between the “competitive” teams will also be blowouts.
Every team in the conference is required to play each team two times. That occupies 14 games of the 25 allowed by the MSHSL. I find it absurd to believe that 7 games a season, a team should only play their top players one period, if that. If New Ulm jumps out to a 6 nothing lead against Fairmont in the first period, should they be forced to shut their top 2 lines down, knowing that this will happen SEVEN MORE TIMES THIS YEAR?! . That’s Fourteen Periods a season that their top guys are forced to watch. When you do the math that is just shy of 20% of the season. If you believe only playing 80% of your season at full speed is displaying respect for the game you love, you need to show yourself out of this forum.
The unfortunate truth is that the results of these blowouts are simply a product of decisions made by adults sitting on Association Boards. I hope these ugly results can prove to be a motivator for programs in the South that need to adjust their policies to better suit their programs.
Nothing would impress the state of hockey more than having one of the teams projected to struggle beat one of the teams projected to shine! Good luck to all of the Conference, and the rest of Section 3A!
Just a reminder....
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doesn't mean your leading scorer needs to pump in the NINETEENTH GOAL halfway through the 3rd period...notTONIGHT wrote:notTONIGHT wrote:The evening before the High School season kicks off, I’d like to write a few words that can be cited throughout the season.
The Big South Conference is made up of 8 teams. IMO 4 of those teams can be classified as "Competitive." Those squads are New Ulm, LSPH, Marshall, and Luverne. Some of the games between the “competitive” teams will also be blowouts.
Every team in the conference is required to play each team two times. That occupies 14 games of the 25 allowed by the MSHSL. I find it absurd to believe that 7 games a season, a team should only play their top players one period, if that. If New Ulm jumps out to a 6 nothing lead against Fairmont in the first period, should they be forced to shut their top 2 lines down, knowing that this will happen SEVEN MORE TIMES THIS YEAR?! . That’s Fourteen Periods a season that their top guys are forced to watch. When you do the math that is just shy of 20% of the season. If you believe only playing 80% of your season at full speed is displaying respect for the game you love, you need to show yourself out of this forum.
The unfortunate truth is that the results of these blowouts are simply a product of decisions made by adults sitting on Association Boards. I hope these ugly results can prove to be a motivator for programs in the South that need to adjust their policies to better suit their programs.
Nothing would impress the state of hockey more than having one of the teams projected to struggle beat one of the teams projected to shine! Good luck to all of the Conference, and the rest of Section 3A!
Just a reminder....
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What I would prefer is what I saw classy Greg Trebil
coached Holy Angels teams do many times. They would get their 7,8,9 goal lead and then start to dump the puck in the offensive zone, one man forecheck, let the team break it out, trap them in neutral ice and dump it in again. Never did a Greg Trebil coached team run the score up or embarrass some of the less skilled Missota Conference teams in the early to mid 2000's by putting up 20 goals. Maybe the mighty Cards were just trying to avenge the Luverene Squirt teams loss to Worthungtin earlier in the year.
coached Holy Angels teams do many times. They would get their 7,8,9 goal lead and then start to dump the puck in the offensive zone, one man forecheck, let the team break it out, trap them in neutral ice and dump it in again. Never did a Greg Trebil coached team run the score up or embarrass some of the less skilled Missota Conference teams in the early to mid 2000's by putting up 20 goals. Maybe the mighty Cards were just trying to avenge the Luverene Squirt teams loss to Worthungtin earlier in the year.
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Dont blame the kid, he just wants to stay at the top of teaks freshman scoring thread. Question for the coaching staff of the mighty CARDS. Why is he even playing at that point in the game?gopherfan7 wrote:l
doesn't mean your leading scorer needs to pump in the NINETEENTH GOAL halfway through the 3rd period...
They suppose to shower after the first period bluelightspecial? You're bright usually with your analysis on these games?!Bluelightspecial wrote:Dont blame the kid, he just wants to stay at the top of teaks freshman scoring thread. Question for the coaching staff of the mighty CARDS. Why is he even playing at that point in the game?gopherfan7 wrote:l
doesn't mean your leading scorer needs to pump in the NINETEENTH GOAL halfway through the 3rd period...
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No, keep playing! You're obviously as bright as the coaching staff.Whiner33 wrote:They suppose to shower after the first period bluelightspecial? You're bright usually with your analysis on these games?!Bluelightspecial wrote:Dont blame the kid, he just wants to stay at the top of teaks freshman scoring thread. Question for the coaching staff of the mighty CARDS. Why is he even playing at that point in the game?gopherfan7 wrote:l
doesn't mean your leading scorer needs to pump in the NINETEENTH GOAL halfway through the 3rd period...
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Maybe if Luverne would stop after they build... lets say a 9 goal lead, and get some live repetition work on Neutral zone systems, defensive zone, and a trapping forecheck maybe they wouldn't lose to teams like St. Paul Johnson.
With 3 to 5 division 1 players on their team (allegedly) you should be able to compete with the top of class A in MN. All you need to do is have lines 2 and 3 play half way decent positional hockey and buy into playing good defense.
Its possible that a trapping forecheck might even be too much for worthington to handle. So be it. You might win 16-0 rather than 20-1.
I'm not sure what took place in the game but I honestly wouldnt be surprised if Luverne rolled 4 lines all game and still won 20-1. I dont have a problem with the score necessarilly, but when it comes to crunch time and Luverne's lines 2 and 3 cant keep a puck out of their own net... its their own fault.
With 3 to 5 division 1 players on their team (allegedly) you should be able to compete with the top of class A in MN. All you need to do is have lines 2 and 3 play half way decent positional hockey and buy into playing good defense.
Its possible that a trapping forecheck might even be too much for worthington to handle. So be it. You might win 16-0 rather than 20-1.
I'm not sure what took place in the game but I honestly wouldnt be surprised if Luverne rolled 4 lines all game and still won 20-1. I dont have a problem with the score necessarilly, but when it comes to crunch time and Luverne's lines 2 and 3 cant keep a puck out of their own net... its their own fault.
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Good points by Bettman.Bettman's Bender wrote:Maybe if Luverne would stop after they build... lets say a 9 goal lead, and get some live repetition work on Neutral zone systems, defensive zone, and a trapping forecheck maybe they wouldn't lose to teams like St. Paul Johnson.
With 3 to 5 division 1 players on their team (allegedly) you should be able to compete with the top of class A in MN. All you need to do is have lines 2 and 3 play half way decent positional hockey and buy into playing good defense.
Its possible that a trapping forecheck might even be too much for worthington to handle. So be it. You might win 16-0 rather than 20-1.
I'm not sure what took place in the game but I honestly wouldnt be surprised if Luverne rolled 4 lines all game and still won 20-1. I dont have a problem with the score necessarilly, but when it comes to crunch time and Luverne's lines 2 and 3 cant keep a puck out of their own net... its their own fault.
But that would take actual coaching which Luverne lacks. Classless and Clueless nice coaching style!
Luverne has a great deal of talent but the leadership is lacking not the kids faults
Section 3A Results
New Ulm over Windom
Delano ripped Hutch
Marshall snuck by Morris Benson
Redwood Valley Sweeps Waseca on the year
Sartell "Luverne's" Willmar
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Except then Luverne would score 30, if they tried for 51 minutes. What could the score of that game been if there was an intensity and effort from the Luverne side, thats whats scary....Whiner33 wrote:Here is what could possibly happen to help these weaker clubs out. So we would give them a handicap...
So Worthington would of started the game out a plus 17...
Then the 19th and 20th goal wouldn't of been such a big deal?!
MSHL it might really perk these games in the STATE of Hockey!!
Also, Cmon jonnyhawken, its been too long since you told us how much better you were then everyone...
That hawked kid is soooo much better! OLE!notTONIGHT wrote:Except then Luverne would score 30, if they tried for 51 minutes. What could the score of that game been if there was an intensity and effort from the Luverne side, thats whats scary....Whiner33 wrote:Here is what could possibly happen to help these weaker clubs out. So we would give them a handicap...
So Worthington would of started the game out a plus 17...
Then the 19th and 20th goal wouldn't of been such a big deal?!
MSHL it might really perk these games in the STATE of Hockey!!
Also, Cmon jonnyhawken, its been too long since you told us how much better you were then everyone...