Hibbing vs Proctor Penalties

[greenway1969]

Can anyone explain what went on in the third period of this game? Why was Hibbing given all of those penalties and game misconducts?

[NLHockey]

Can anyone explain what went on in the third period of this game? Why was Hibbing given alll of those penalties and game misconducts?

How did Dilley pick up the game misconduct when he wasn't playing (at least not according to Hockey Hub)? Sounds like an interesting game

[HockeyFan_11]

Piss poor officiating. I don't think the refs had a clue what was going on. They sure ruined the game. As for Dilley, he was playing. After Proctor scored the 3rd goal it looked like he just slammed his stick on the ice(unless he said something to the ref). The refs gave Dilley a 2 and a 10 then put him in the penalty box. First time I've seen a goalie be put in the penalty box.

[gitter]

Piss poor officiating. I don't think the refs had a clue what was going on. They sure ruined the game. As for Dilley, he was playing. After Proctor scored the 3rd goal it looked like he just slammed his stick on the ice(unless he said something to the ref). The refs gave Dilley a 2 and a 10 then put him in the penalty box. First time I've seen a goalie be put in the penalty box.

So the goalie was physically in the penalty box? ha! I've never seen that either. Did he get to go back in the net after his 10 minutes, or was the game over by then?

[HockeyFan_11]

Piss poor officiating. I don't think the refs had a clue what was going on. They sure ruined the game. As for Dilley, he was playing. After Proctor scored the 3rd goal it looked like he just slammed his stick on the ice(unless he said something to the ref). The refs gave Dilley a 2 and a 10 then put him in the penalty box. First time I've seen a goalie be put in the penalty box.

So the goalie was physically in the penalty box? ha! I've never seen that either. Did he get to go back in the net after his 10 minutes, or was the game over by then?

Yes he was physically in the penalty box. The game ended before he could get out.

[Velocity3]

Piss poor officiating. I don't think the refs had a clue what was going on. They sure ruined the game. As for Dilley, he was playing. After Proctor scored the 3rd goal it looked like he just slammed his stick on the ice(unless he said something to the ref). The refs gave Dilley a 2 and a 10 then put him in the penalty box. First time I've seen a goalie be put in the penalty box.

So the goalie was physically in the penalty box? ha! I've never seen that either. Did he get to go back in the net after his 10 minutes, or was the game over by then?

Yes he was physically in the penalty box. The game ended before he could get out.

So how does Dilley get credited for 55:21 in playing time with him off the ice. Seems to me that it should be less than that if he was off the ice with 12 minutes worth of penalties.

[HockeyFan_11]

So the goalie was physically in the penalty box? ha! I've never seen that either. Did he get to go back in the net after his 10 minutes, or was the game over by then?

Yes he was physically in the penalty box. The game ended before he could get out.

So how does Dilley get credited for 55:21 in playing time with him off the ice. Seems to me that it should be less than that if he was off the ice with 12 minutes worth of penalties.

Looks to me the Hockey Hub posted the wrong stats. Once Dilley went in the box Hibbing's backup came in, made a few saves and finished out the game.

[Mouse in the corner]

I have wondered this at both the youth and hs levels. I know that we all think that our team's are getting screwed by the refs. That even though our little angle elbowed the kid on the way into the corner that it was a total accident. With that said.

Is there a mechanism for the coaches or ADs to file a report on up the ref chain about something that seems to be wrong? Could these coaches file a note someplace saying that this crew (who ever it was) needs to be looked at?

just curious.

[rainier]

Quote in Hibbing Daily Tribune from Hibbing coach Todd Versich when he was asked how is team has been playing lately as they head up to play I-Falls:

"Proctor was a hard game to gauge. There was a lot of strange penalties, and I still don’t know what they were for..."

I find it strange that the three misconducts were called against Hibbing's three best players, but it's probably just a coincidence.

[theref]

From my understanding, seems the Hibbing players take right after their coaches and spend more time complaining about officiating then actually worrying about the game. At least that is what I hear from all the boys on the range and some out of Duluth. Too bad when talented teams can't just focus on playing the game.

[rainier]

From my understanding, seems the Hibbing players take right after their coaches and spend more time complaining about officiating then actually worrying about the game. At least that is what I hear from all the boys on the range and some out of Duluth. Too bad when talented teams can't just focus on playing the game.

I'd love to disagree with you (especially since you are an I-Falls bobo), but watching Hibbing barely squeak by some bad teams lately also has me wondering where their focus is. They are a young team, but they are too talented to have such close games with teams like Proctor, I-Falls and Greenway.

[Just Checking]

I have wondered this at both the youth and hs levels. I know that we all think that our team's are getting screwed by the refs. That even though our little angle elbowed the kid on the way into the corner that it was a total accident. With that said.

Is there a mechanism for the coaches or ADs to file a report on up the ref chain about something that seems to be wrong? Could these coaches file a note someplace saying that this crew (who ever it was) needs to be looked at?

just curious.

Was this at home or away?

I was at a bantam tourney in GR recently and we played the home team.

They called more penalties against GR!!!!! Not one phantom call on us. I was disgusted, go to an old barn and play the home team and it is evenly officiated. What a joke. Terrible.

Mouse you need to whip those local refs into shape. They should be good for at least 3 no calls on the home team, a phantom call or two on the visitors depending on the score, maybe a well timed icing wave off, or obvious non-offsides offsides call on a two on one. If not, I think you should find their home and hang a stuffed ref in effigy, or at least mess with their cars and leave a note. Do something. Very disappointing.

I am guessing this elbow call was at home, am I right?

[Mouse in the corner]

I have wondered this at both the youth and hs levels. I know that we all think that our team's are getting screwed by the refs. That even though our little angle elbowed the kid on the way into the corner that it was a total accident. With that said.

Is there a mechanism for the coaches or ADs to file a report on up the ref chain about something that seems to be wrong? Could these coaches file a note someplace saying that this crew (who ever it was) needs to be looked at?

just curious.

Was this at home or away?

I was at a bantam tourney in GR recently and we played the home team.

They called more penalties against GR!!!!! Not one phantom call on us. I was disgusted, go to an old barn and play the home team and it is evenly officiated. What a joke. Terrible.

Mouse you need to whip those local refs into shape. They should be good for at least 3 no calls on the home team, a phantom call or two on the visitors depending on the score, maybe a well timed icing wave off, or obvious non-offsides offsides call on a two on one. If not, I think you should find their home and hang a stuffed ref in effigy, or at least mess with their cars and leave a note. Do something. Very disappointing.

I am guessing this elbow call was at home, am I right?

No, no, no. Don't misread what I said here. I have been on both sides of this deal and to be honest with you have complained just like everybody else in the place. I am not on a mission to whip anybody into shape or to do what ever.

I do however know that the stands are full of people who would watch their little angel run a kid and say it was an accident. I am NOT saying that the parent should in any way have any impact on the reffing. None, period.

BUT, does a coach? Can a coach submit a form someplace saying that "those refs were bad". Not, they picked on us or what ever but they were bad. Not all hockey coaches have this win at all costs attitude in which they are ok with stuff not getting called. Some coaches actually want to help their kids on their teams get better at hockey as well as life. In the same way that we have people who are bad at their jobs in all other walks of life we do have bad hockey refs. Can they be reported so that they are either done reffing or retrained to get to a level of competence? I do not know the answer and am curious that is all.

[Just Checking]

I have wondered this at both the youth and hs levels. I know that we all think that our team's are getting screwed by the refs. That even though our little angle elbowed the kid on the way into the corner that it was a total accident. With that said.

Is there a mechanism for the coaches or ADs to file a report on up the ref chain about something that seems to be wrong? Could these coaches file a note someplace saying that this crew (who ever it was) needs to be looked at?

just curious.

Was this at home or away?

I was at a bantam tourney in GR recently and we played the home team.

They called more penalties against GR!!!!! Not one phantom call on us. I was disgusted, go to an old barn and play the home team and it is evenly officiated. What a joke. Terrible.

Mouse you need to whip those local refs into shape. They should be good for at least 3 no calls on the home team, a phantom call or two on the visitors depending on the score, maybe a well timed icing wave off, or obvious non-offsides offsides call on a two on one. If not, I think you should find their home and hang a stuffed ref in effigy, or at least mess with their cars and leave a note. Do something. Very disappointing.

I am guessing this elbow call was at home, am I right?

No, no, no. Don't misread what I said here. I have been on both sides of this deal and to be honest with you have complained just like everybody else in the place. I am not on a mission to whip anybody into shape or to do what ever.

I do however know that the stands are full of people who would watch their little angel run a kid and say it was an accident. I am NOT saying that the parent should in any way have any impact on the reffing. None, period.

BUT, does a coach? Can a coach submit a form someplace saying that "those refs were bad". Not, they picked on us or what ever but they were bad. Not all hockey coaches have this win at all costs attitude in which they are ok with stuff not getting called. Some coaches actually want to help their kids on their teams get better at hockey as well as life. In the same way that we have people who are bad at their jobs in all other walks of life we do have bad hockey refs. Can they be reported so that they are either done reffing or retrained to get to a level of competence? I do not know the answer and am curious that is all.

So this incident noted above, "even though our little angle elbowed the kid on the way into the corner that it was a total accident." was hypothetical.

Got it.

So this hypothetical. Did it happen on the road?

[Mouse in the corner]

Was this at home or away?

I was at a bantam tourney in GR recently and we played the home team.

They called more penalties against GR!!!!! Not one phantom call on us. I was disgusted, go to an old barn and play the home team and it is evenly officiated. What a joke. Terrible.

Mouse you need to whip those local refs into shape. They should be good for at least 3 no calls on the home team, a phantom call or two on the visitors depending on the score, maybe a well timed icing wave off, or obvious non-offsides offsides call on a two on one. If not, I think you should find their home and hang a stuffed ref in effigy, or at least mess with their cars and leave a note. Do something. Very disappointing.

I am guessing this elbow call was at home, am I right?

No, no, no. Don't misread what I said here. I have been on both sides of this deal and to be honest with you have complained just like everybody else in the place. I am not on a mission to whip anybody into shape or to do what ever.

I do however know that the stands are full of people who would watch their little angel run a kid and say it was an accident. I am NOT saying that the parent should in any way have any impact on the reffing. None, period.

BUT, does a coach? Can a coach submit a form someplace saying that "those refs were bad". Not, they picked on us or what ever but they were bad. Not all hockey coaches have this win at all costs attitude in which they are ok with stuff not getting called. Some coaches actually want to help their kids on their teams get better at hockey as well as life. In the same way that we have people who are bad at their jobs in all other walks of life we do have bad hockey refs. Can they be reported so that they are either done reffing or retrained to get to a level of competence? I do not know the answer and am curious that is all.

So this incident noted above, "even though our little angle elbowed the kid on the way into the corner that it was a total accident." was hypothetical.

Got it.

So this hypothetical. Did it happen on the road?

It is at this point that I realize that one of two situations exists here. Either my writing s*cks so bad I can't make my point or I am being drawn into an argument with an idiot.............

I will leave this in what I think of as the Shrodinger's cat status and move on.