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lrugland
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Post by lrugland »

Nevertoomuchhockey wrote:
goaliedad31 wrote:Off the top of my head from 2013-14 12uA, Roseau, Duluth, WBL - all state entries without a team at this level 2014-15.

*edit - sorry WBL is fielding A.


Please explain. All these teams have a 12A team
According to MN Hockey, neither state entry team has an A level team at 12s this year. I only compared last years state tourney teams to this years list. I'd be curious to see where else A level teams dropped off. And why...
Roseau has a 12U A team and a 12U B team. Duluth only has a 12U B program this year. Their numbers are down this year once again I hear.
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Observations as the season winds down

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I have seen most of the teams in U12 and I can honestly say that it is a true tossup to say who is going to end up in the State tournament this year. Any one of the top 10 could easily make it. Saw Roseau in Fargo they are really good and I hear Warroad is just as good. Cottage Grove is really tenacious as is Andover. Shakopee really hustles and Forest Lake is loaded with skill. I think Brainerds schedule hurts them as they don't see enough competitive games. Stillwater is a sleeper With Eagan and Minnetonka the teams to beat. The will see the Cakeeaters and Wayzata this month looking forward to watching both teams. It will be really interesting to see how the regions shake out. This year I know that Dist 3 and 6 are in different regions.
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Post by HockeyDad2015 »

I agree 1000%. There are about 10-12 teams this year that are very good at the top end.

Prediction for State:
Minnetonka Black
Edina
Eden Prairie
Andover
Forest Lake
St. Paul
Brainerd
Roseau

Just an early prediction, this could change very easily.
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Post by zambonidriver »

HockeyDad2015 wrote:I agree 1000%. There are about 10-12 teams this year that are very good at the top end.

Prediction for State:
Minnetonka Black
Edina
Eden Prairie
Andover
Forest Lake
St. Paul
Brainerd
Roseau

Just an early prediction, this could change very easily.
District 2 is a real crapshoot Mahtomedi and NE metro have really improved Mahtomedi is really well coached. We see Edina on Wednesday should be fun with Roseau coming down next week.
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Post by InigoMontoya »

HockeyDad2015 wrote:I agree 1000%. There are about 10-12 teams this year that are very good at the top end.

Prediction for State:
Minnetonka Black
Edina
Eden Prairie
Andover
Forest Lake
St. Paul
Brainerd
Roseau

Just an early prediction, this could change very easily.
Not giving much respect to D8.
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Post by zambonidriver »

InigoMontoya wrote:
HockeyDad2015 wrote:I agree 1000%. There are about 10-12 teams this year that are very good at the top end.

Prediction for State:
Minnetonka Black
Edina
Eden Prairie
Andover
Forest Lake
St. Paul
Brainerd
Roseau

Just an early prediction, this could change very easily.[/Egan, Cottage Grove really tough region I see them going before EP Also Stillwater is playing real well right now The state all depends on brackets coming out of districts. quote]

Not giving much respect to D8.
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Numbers

Post by zambonidriver »

As we move into playoffs the deeper teams have the advantage. Teams that can roll three lines as opposed to two especially in the regions because the games are all in the same weekend. We had nothing left in the tank after playing MWT, BS, for Edina.
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Re: Numbers

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zambonidriver wrote:As we move into playoffs the deeper teams have the advantage. Teams that can roll three lines as opposed to two especially in the regions because the games are all in the same weekend. We had nothing left in the tank after playing MWT, BS, for Edina.
That would suggest Forest Lake is well-positioned for a run.

I hope your daughter's team has a good run as well. They're definitely the team I've seen this year with the most skill on the puck and understanding of team play. Very enjoyable to watch.
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Re: Numbers

Post by zambonidriver »

jg2112 wrote:
zambonidriver wrote:As we move into playoffs the deeper teams have the advantage. Teams that can roll three lines as opposed to two especially in the regions because the games are all in the same weekend. We had nothing left in the tank after playing MWT, BS, for Edina.
That would suggest Forest Lake is well-positioned for a run.

I hope your daughter's team has a good run as well. They're definitely the team I've seen this year with the most skill on the puck and understanding of team play. Very enjoyable to watch.
Yes, they are a great team we have played them really tough. Thank you for the compliment I have never been around a group of kids that get the idea of team play like these kids do.
:)
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Post by HockeyDad2015 »

D8 has to get through a tough D6. That regional will be loaded.
Like I said it could change very easily, Eagan and Cottage Grove could get in there, I would lean more towards Eagan.
Minnetonka is a lock! I like Edina, Eden Prairie is very tough. Eagan will need to bring it to get through that regional. I don't see Cottage Grove getting through this regional.
Of course I'm talking as if all these teams make it through there districts.

The other regional should have Forest Lake, St.paul, Stillwater, Wayzata, OMG, Andover, NWC and Centennial.
I see Andover and Forest Lake coming out of this one with the 3rd spot being very tough to predict. I said earlier I thought it would be St.Paul.

Just for the record, I have personally seen every one of these teams play multiple games. That's not saying I'm an expert, just my opinion. Everybody else is free to give there's. Just trying to start a little conversation.
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Post by HockeyDad2015 »

Your point?
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Post by zambonidriver »

HockeyDad2015 wrote:Your point?
St. Paul beaten Edina, Rochester, Park Cottage Grove, and tied Forest Lake and Shakopee not to mention shut out Eden Prairie. No respect, The Rodney Dangerfield of girls 12 A hockey.
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Post by HockeyDad2015 »

Maybe, but you have lost bad to Eagan, Stillwater and Shakopee, have not beaten Forest Lake, Roseau and Shakopee.

Looking at your schedule you really only have 4 quality wins. Edina, Eden Prairie, Wayzata and Rochester early, Rochester has been playing a lot better as of late. Looks like you caught Edina in a little bit of a slump.

I gave your team respect, very dangerous. I still think your team makes it to state and anything can happen after that. Much deeper this year then last.

Who do you see making it to state?
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Post by HockeyDad2015 »

That tie with Rosemount doesn't look real good either. That's a team you guys should have beaten with ease.
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Post by zambonidriver »

HockeyDad2015 wrote:That tie with Rosemount doesn't look real good either. That's a team you guys should have beaten with ease.
you forgot the win over park. Roseau losses and shakopee loss backup goalie
Rosemount shoot out win Eagan loss and STILLWATER loss same excuse as Edina we were slumping. Stillwater is very hard to predict as they run so hot and cold. Remember we beat Edina with 8 skaters an one of our best players in the box for 14 minutes.
State I see Forest Lake, St.Paul, Andover, Minnetonka Black,Eagan,Park from the cities, Brainerd and Roseau from the north. Warroad and TRF have a shot.
Things should be more clear after this weekend will see how much Eagan,Park, Brainerd, Stillwater, have improved, skate for the roses also the the Woodbury sweetheart is this weekend. Mtka, should win that. Last year in the skate for the roses Eagan and lakeville south were in the friendship game and went to state. A lot more parity this year.
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Post by HockeyDad2015 »

I don't see PCG being there at all, haven't been very impressed with them as a team.
I'll give you Eagan in State, no way does PCG get past Edina and Eden Prairie to make it. Eden Prairie or Edina will take the third spot in that regional.

Seems like that is the only place we differ.
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Post by HockeyDad2015 »

It was my understanding that your two goalies are playing equally. Is that not that case?
You had your "Backup Goalie" in there both times against Roseau?
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Post by zambonidriver »

HockeyDad2015 wrote:It was my understanding that your two goalies are playing equally. Is that not that case?
You had your "Backup Goalie" in there both times against Roseau?
Yes, Our starter gets the district games and played the first half against Edina and pitched a shutout. Since the Mahtomedi game she has really dialed herself in hasn't allowed a goal. Her back up has played real well for the season but it isn't even close. We are not built to blow people out good defense goaltending and being the first team to 3. We frustrate teams. We will go as far as our D and Goaltending will take us. I differ with you I think both Edina and EP are overrated. Park is relentless.
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Post by HockeyDad2015 »

Eden prairie is very solid, I would not say Edina is overrated at all, a loss to you guys, Wayzata in a meaningless 3rd place game in Duluth and they haven't beaten Andover in 3 meetings. Edina is the only team to beat Minnetonka Black so far this year. Twice!
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Post by zambonidriver »

HockeyDad2015 wrote:Eden prairie is very solid, I would not say Edina is overrated at all, a loss to you guys, Wayzata in a meaningless 3rd place game in Duluth and they haven't beaten Andover in 3 meetings. Edina is the only team to beat Minnetonka Black so far this year. Twice!
Ep weak on the back end we beat them 2-0 totally controlled the game. Maybe Edina took us t lightly being we only had 8 skaters. I thought they didn't show a lot of heart against us. Turned the puck over a lot. Like you said about us beat Mtka early in the year. They also tied Wayzata Look at their last 5 trend or mirage. I really like Wayzata. If they could figure out how to pick a team. Wrong goalie and a couple of poor choices up front. Their best goalie is playing on the B team. Haven't seen Centennial or NWC come playoffs anything can happen.
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Post by zambonidriver »

HockeyDad2015 wrote:It was my understanding that your two goalies are playing equally. Is that not that case?
You had your "Backup Goalie" in there both times against Roseau?
Against Roseau both one goal games two empty netters late. Both games dug ourselves 2 goal hole on softies
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Post by goaliedad31 »

Zamboni, should we just hand you the state title now?
Who says the teams you beat weren't also in a slump or had illness, sickness or injuries? The reality is there are about 2-3 teams that have the slight edge, but there are about 10-12 teams that on any given night could pull off the win.
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Post by lrugland »

zambonidriver wrote:
HockeyDad2015 wrote:It was my understanding that your two goalies are playing equally. Is that not that case?
You had your "Backup Goalie" in there both times against Roseau?
Against Roseau both one goal games two empty netters late. Both games dug ourselves 2 goal hole on softies
I had a post here but took it all back. Not worth the effort. I was at the Roseau vs St Paul game and it was good. But the goals were not softies by any means. Even the open netter was a breakaway from 3 great passes out of our zone. Heck, the one goal that St Paul got on Roseau was softer then any of the Roseau goals. But maybe that was what you meant, your goals were softies to get you out of the 2 goal hole, not sure.

Thanks for having us down. We always love our trips south.
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Post by zambonidriver »

goaliedad31 wrote:Zamboni, should we just hand you the state title now?
Who says the teams you beat weren't also in a slump or had illness, sickness or injuries? The reality is there are about 2-3 teams that have the slight edge, but there are about 10-12 teams that on any given night could pull off the win.
I couldn't agree more that is what I am saying.
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