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green4
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Post by green4 »

WestMetro wrote:Green 4,

I think Malmquist must now be 2nd? in all time leading Edina scorers at about 174?, and somewhere around 16? short of recordholder Dan Carlson. I assume Dans number of around 190? included extra season although I couldnt be sure.
You could check me on my figures.

Anyway, I guess its theoretically possible Dylan could catch him if they go all the way to the state final, but realistically that many more points is probably not in the cards. He might come close. Anyway, congrats to Dylan on a much higher potent offensive season than I thought he could ever achieve.
I don't even know where to find Carlson's numbers so I have no idea
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Post by sticksave »

Maimquist and Jaremko played on the same off season team for 6 or 7 years. I'm sure they wish each other luck. Kind of amazing how that coach was able to pick them so young. I think all of the kids on that summer team have received D-1 offers but one. Bernie does know his youth hockey.
Don't know him personally but know who he is. He has some sort of a gift or.....? :wink:
WestMetro
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Post by WestMetro »

As far as Dan Carlson lifetime points at Edina, Notre Dame reported 191 points, while fellow poster Rich Clarke at one time reported 196 points.

Also, at approx 174 points now, Dylan is in 3rd place, not second, behind Carlson and Everson. Im not sure if their points include post season or not.

Rich Clarke.......was your 196 number directly from Edina High School, the Hub, or ?







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a proven goalscorer who totaled a school-record 191 career points at Edina (Minn.) High School ... a finalist for Minnesota's Mr. Hockey award after leading Class AA with 77 points in '97... scored winning goal against current Irish classmate Kyle Kolquist of Duluth East in '97 state title game ...




Rich Clarke



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Posts: 65 Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:52 am Post subject: Recent Edina players with 100+ career points
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Edina has had the following players beginning with those graduating in 1982:

Dan Carlson (1997) 196
Marshall Everson (2009) 186
Tom Nevers (1989) 139
Anders Lee (2009) 138
Jeff Yurecko (1999) 135
Conner Gaarder (2009) 122
Ben Stafford (1997) 118
Matt Reber (2007) 118
Zach Budish (2009*) 110
Beau Kretzman (2001) 101

Anders Lee's stats are just for his two years at Edina. I see his total history is already listed. Budish missed his senior year with injury. If one were to speculate that he would have scored as much as Lee and Everson his senior year, he would have ended up at 194 (Lee led the team with 84 points), still short of Dan Carlson's amazing total.

The stats begin in the early 80s but the only player to reach 100 career points until 1997 was Tom Nevers, even though Edina played in several state tournaments and won three. I think the reason is that the two Edina schools reunited and depth kept some sophomores and freshmen on the JV. Those that did make it early played on the third or fourth lines. Future NHL player Paul Ranheim played just two seasons and had just 61 career points. Dave Maley, another NHL player, did play his sophomore and junior years at Edina West, but had just 95 career points.

Further, the list does not include anyone graduating in 1981 or earlier, so players like Nyrop etc. are only absent for that reason. I do know, however, that Edina reports Dan Carlson as Edina's all-time leading scorer, so I don't believe any Edina player has scored 200+ points (in an Edina uniform)
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Post by green4 »

WestMetro wrote:
Also, at approx 174 points now, Dylan is in 3rd place, not second, behind Carlson and Everson. Im not sure if their points include post season or not.
According to the hub it is 174 for Dylan in the regular season. If you count sections and State he has 205
Just Checking
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Post by Just Checking »

sticksave wrote:Maimquist and Jaremko played on the same off season team for 6 or 7 years. I'm sure they wish each other luck. Kind of amazing how that coach was able to pick them so young. I think all of the kids on that summer team have received D-1 offers but one. Bernie does know his youth hockey.
Don't know him personally but know who he is. He has some sort of a gift or.....? :wink:
This is true. Machine 96, but Malquist was on the Deuce (JV) for two years prior. Bernie would change out the bottom 2-3 kids every year. Jaremko was on the machine from the beginning. It was an excellent team but there was turnover too. There are more than 1 without a D1 commitment. 1 is still in NA and 1 in USHL trying to get an offer. 2 are out of hockey, more depending on the timetable. 1 is in the WHL. But they had alot of talent on that team, no question.
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Post by Sats81 »

Just Checking wrote:
sticksave wrote:Maimquist and Jaremko played on the same off season team for 6 or 7 years. I'm sure they wish each other luck. Kind of amazing how that coach was able to pick them so young. I think all of the kids on that summer team have received D-1 offers but one. Bernie does know his youth hockey.
Don't know him personally but know who he is. He has some sort of a gift or.....? :wink:
This is true. Machine 96, but Malquist was on the Deuce (JV) for two years prior. Bernie would change out the bottom 2-3 kids every year. Jaremko was on the machine from the beginning. It was an excellent team but there was turnover too. There are more than 1 without a D1 commitment. 1 is still in NA and 1 in USHL trying to get an offer. 2 are out of hockey, more depending on the timetable. 1 is in the WHL. But they had alot of talent on that team, no question.
You have the roster for that team? Curious. Thanks
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Post by MNhocklover43 »

Dylan Malmquist
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Post by alcloseshaver »

MNhocklover43 wrote:Dylan Malmquist
Mr Hockey
Most likely, I thought he won it with a 5pt night against Jaremko and the Elks at the Classic in a victory.
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Post by Bayside Tigers »

Let's get realistic, the only way I see Dylan winning is if Mr. Carosi from Saved By The Bell is one of the judges and he rigs it just like he rigged the Miss Liberty Pageant.
Rich Clarke
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Carlson's career stats

Post by Rich Clarke »

My 196 point calculation for Dan Carlson came from manually keeping the stats for the Edina games since the 1980s. Accurate in terms of the stats announced at games, but additional assists seem to be awarded after games so I believe my totals are conservative. For example, my calculations for Malmquist after Saturday's three points with EP were 203. Green 4 calculated his points by looking at all the Hockey Hub results and came up with 204 before Saturday's game, so HH would now have him at 207. So if after 4 years I'm short 4 points, I suspect Carlson is closer to 200 overall. Either way, he clearly averaged a higher annual total since he only played three years, but Malmquist is Edina's career leading scorer. Both have been incredible players and Edina is fortunate that both played their full careers with the Hornets and didn't leave HS early.
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Post by WestMetro »

Thank you Rich Clarke !

So as the most authoritative and documented resource in existence for Edina high school hockey scoring, you have no doubt that Dylan Malmquist has just recently officially become the all time Edina scoring leader? I guess we better try to nail down the official most accepted number so same debate not needed 10 years from now.

Congratulations Dylan Malmquist!!

Someone better let Dan down gently, I recall hearing about a year ago he was back from playing in Europe for over a decade, residing with family somewhere in the nearby West Metro.

But no one can take away his winning 1997 championship goal and trophy, (at the expense of my Hounds alma mater).
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Post by eh1 »

Sats81 wrote:
Just Checking wrote:
sticksave wrote:Maimquist and Jaremko played on the same off season team for 6 or 7 years. I'm sure they wish each other luck. Kind of amazing how that coach was able to pick them so young. I think all of the kids on that summer team have received D-1 offers but one. Bernie does know his youth hockey.
Don't know him personally but know who he is. He has some sort of a gift or.....? :wink:
This is true. Machine 96, but Malquist was on the Deuce (JV) for two years prior. Bernie would change out the bottom 2-3 kids every year. Jaremko was on the machine from the beginning. It was an excellent team but there was turnover too. There are more than 1 without a D1 commitment. 1 is still in NA and 1 in USHL trying to get an offer. 2 are out of hockey, more depending on the timetable. 1 is in the WHL. But they had alot of talent on that team, no question.


You have the roster for that team? Curious. Thanks
Remember watching this team in Winnipeg a few times years ago. Not surprised that two lads from that team are up for this award. Never seen a youth team with that much skill and coached with so much discipline. What happened to the rest?
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Post by Rich Clarke »

No question that Carlson was no. 1. His photo at Braemar says so, and the closest I knew of to him was Tom Nevers and he had around 139 points. Marshall Everson gave him a run a few years ago but finished around ten points short. (I had him at 186) Again, I suspect most players have a few more late added points but that's true for all of them. Malmquist now clearly holds the crown. But as you say, no one can take away what Dan Carlson did for Edina hockey. He and Stafford led Edina to a championship, runner up, and third place when Edina numbers were way down. It's hard to like either better than the other.
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Post by DumpandChase1 »

Sorry to rain on this parade but neither Dan Carlson or Dylan Malmquist are the all time leading scorers at Edina High School. That honor belongs to Larry Johnson who has right around 225 points from 1953- 1956, with a single season record of 87, 51 goals and 36 assists in 1956. Keep in mind they only played 12 min periods back then.
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Post by alcloseshaver »

DumpandChase1 wrote:Sorry to rain on this parade but neither Dan Carlson or Dylan Malmquist are the all time leading scorers at Edina High School. That honor belongs to Larry Johnson who has right around 225 points from 1953- 1956, with a single season record of 87, 51 goals and 36 assists in 1956. Keep in mind they only played 12 min periods back then.
Did he win Mr. Hockey? :lol:
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Post by WestMetro »

How quickly things change! Thanks dump and chase!
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Post by alcloseshaver »

Jaremko has to be close to the record in Elk River also.
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Post by DumpandChase1 »

alcloseshaver wrote:
DumpandChase1 wrote:Sorry to rain on this parade but neither Dan Carlson or Dylan Malmquist are the all time leading scorers at Edina High School. That honor belongs to Larry Johnson who has right around 225 points from 1953- 1956, with a single season record of 87, 51 goals and 36 assists in 1956. Keep in mind they only played 12 min periods back then.
Did he win Mr. Hockey? :lol:
He won Dr. Hockey!
DumpandChase1
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Post by DumpandChase1 »

Lets keep in mind that Dylan still has 5 games left and can still break the all time record.
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Post by The Exiled One »

alcloseshaver wrote:
DumpandChase1 wrote:Sorry to rain on this parade but neither Dan Carlson or Dylan Malmquist are the all time leading scorers at Edina High School. That honor belongs to Larry Johnson who has right around 225 points from 1953- 1956, with a single season record of 87, 51 goals and 36 assists in 1956. Keep in mind they only played 12 min periods back then.
Did he win Mr. Hockey? :lol:
Kind of?
Edina HS Hall of Fame wrote:As the first in a long line of greats in the Edina hockey program, Larry burst onto the scene as a freshman, finishing second in scoring on the Hornet varsity. By the time he was a senior, every hockey fan in the state was aware of Larry's prowess. He finished his senior season as the leading scorer in the Lake Conference and was an All-State selection. When he wasn't on the ice, Edina's "Mr. Hockey" was excelling in two other sports, football and baseball.
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Post by WestMetro »

Wonder how the Braemar photo of Dan Carlson is allowed to have the phrase that he holds the top scorer record?
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Post by GoBigorGoHome »

Dan Carlson seems to have been an extremely talented player. Beyond the comments regarding his high school prowess on this board, according to Hockeydb.com his collegiate, ECHL, and European stats are quite impressive. Having never seen him play, I'm wondering, what was it about his game that did not allow him to make the jump beyond the ECHL? Did he have injury issues?
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Post by Bayside Tigers »

I scored a broomball goal once.
Rich Clarke
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Dan Carlson

Post by Rich Clarke »

In response to the question about why Carlson didn't go further, I am sure the biggest issue was size. He absolutely was not an NHL size player. But he was truly amazing in that he stands out in Edina history despite all the greats who both preceded and succeeded him. I've watched most Edina games since 1981, and no one stood out more. But this year I'm excited about another no. 20 (Malmquist) and several other Hornets.

And in response to the statement that Carlson was not Edina's leading scorer, note that I said that I only have stats since 1980. I have no idea what the stats were from the awesome teams in the seventies or before. But that said, I was going off of the Carlson photo at Braemar declaring him the all-time leader. I will make a point to see if it still says that next time I go to Braemar.
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