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Will another #1 seed not make it to state?

Poll ended at Fri Feb 27, 2015 11:33 am

1 - New Prague
4
11%
2 - Breck
2
6%
3 - Luverne
17
47%
4 - Mahtomedi
2
6%
7 - Hermantown
2
6%
8 - East Grand Forks
6
17%
No More Upsets
3
8%
 
Total votes: 36

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Class A Rankings 2-23-15

Post by HShockeywatcher »

Apollo took down Alexandria last week; who will be upset this week?
20 teams and 12 games left, it should be a good week.

1. Hermantown
Allowed 5 goals in their last 5 games with 3 shut outs and face Duluth Marshall on Wednesday at AMSOIL.

2. Mahtomedi
Continued to cruise and won't be challenged until likely playing St Paul Academy on Friday.

3. East Grand Forks
On Thursday they play a Thief River Falls team they beat 4-1 and 2-1 this season.

4. Breck
They have shut out Blake twice so making it to the section final on Thursday should be easy.

5. Duluth Marshall
Coming off a shut out of Denfeld, can they play Hermantown better than the first time around?

6. Delano
They have beaten Orono 6-3 and 4-2 this season so making it to the final should be easy but they also lose to Breck 6-1 early in the season.

7. St. Paul Academy
In the first meetings, they beat Johnson in OT and lost to Mahtomedi 3-1.

8. St Cloud Apollo
After tying and losing to Apollo in the regular season, the third time was the charm. Despite being the lower seed, they should be considered the favorite.

9. Thief River Falls
Lost the first two meetings with East Grand Forks.

10. Orono
Lost the first two meetings with Delano but they were close so anything's possible.

11. New Prague
They beat Northfield by 1 in their second game of the season.

12. St. Cloud Cathedral
Hasn't been the best season, but they beat Apollo the first time around.

13. St Paul Johnson
They took St Paul Academy to OT in the first meeting so anything's possible.

14. South St Paul
Lost to Mahtomedi 3-1 in their first and only meeting.

15. Luverne
Beat New Ulm 8-1 the first meeting and lost 5-2 the second. They have lost only 1 game where they scored more than 2 goals this season.

16. New Ulm
Coming off an OT win over a Hutchinon team they tied earlier, they should be ready to play Luverne again.

17. Northfield
Should be able to play New Prague close.

18. Spring Lake Park
Beat Chisago 6-3 in the first meeting.

19. Blake
The only team still alive with single digit wins.

20. Chisago Lakes Area
Lost to Blake in OT this season.
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Post by HOCKEYDRIVER »

15. Luverne
Beat New Ulm 8-1 the first meeting and lost 5-2 the second. They have won all the games they scored more than 2 goals this season.

Nope they lost to ST.PAUL JOHNSON 6-5 at
Mn Day of Hockey.
And will this be the last win they get for the year?
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Post by InYourFace09 »

HOCKEYDRIVER wrote:15. Luverne
Beat New Ulm 8-1 the first meeting and lost 5-2 the second. They have won all the games they scored more than 2 goals this season.

Nope they lost to ST.PAUL JOHNSON 6-5 at
Mn Day of Hockey.
And will this be the last win they get for the year?
If Luverne makes it to the X, I bet they can win a game. We will see if they get matched up with H-town in the Qtrs again.
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Post by Windmill31 »

InYourFace09 wrote:
HOCKEYDRIVER wrote:15. Luverne
Beat New Ulm 8-1 the first meeting and lost 5-2 the second. They have won all the games they scored more than 2 goals this season.

Nope they lost to ST.PAUL JOHNSON 6-5 at
Mn Day of Hockey.
And will this be the last win they get for the year?
If Luverne makes it to the X, I bet they can win a game. We will see if they get matched up with H-town in the Qtrs again.
Only way they get a win in the tourney is if they see the 5A section champions in the consolation semi, most likely SLP, and even in that game they would be underdogs. How can a team who only beat redwood valley by one goal (less than a week ago) be able to win a game at the highest level of play in high school hockey (for single A). roll eyes roll :roll: :roll:
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Post by HOCKEYDRIVER »

Skate 1 line and leave #22 on the ice. That kid is on the ice more then Suter.
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Post by hawkenjonny »

Because that is playoff hockey? Maybe in your world there are no upsets or lopsided victories followed by tight games. Must be boring when the favorites always win. I wonder if you can stand to watch NHL hockey where every player is of the highest caliber? If there is any decent coaching at all, teams adjust particularly to their familiar opponents. Don't know what happened in that game as I am not from that area, but that stuff happens all the time up here. One game isn't a measuring stick for any team. These are kids, and by the look of Luverne's roster, YOUNG kids. You never know how they will respond to pressure. My own team is a study in the inconsistencies of a young yet talented team. I am still hoping to see the red mob back at the X.
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Post by HOCKEYDRIVER »

I hope Luverne makes it and does win. They are what the "A" is about. Not these schools who can play with the "AA" programs. That are scared to move up. Because they need a trophey.
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Post by Windmill31 »

hawkenjonny wrote:Because that is playoff hockey? Maybe in your world there are no upsets or lopsided victories followed by tight games. Must be boring when the favorites always win. I wonder if you can stand to watch NHL hockey where every player is of the highest caliber? If there is any decent coaching at all, teams adjust particularly to their familiar opponents. Don't know what happened in that game as I am not from that area, but that stuff happens all the time up here. One game isn't a measuring stick for any team. These are kids, and by the look of Luverne's roster, YOUNG kids. You never know how they will respond to pressure. My own team is a study in the inconsistencies of a young yet talented team. I am still hoping to see the red mob back at the X.
I'm just saying that although underdog victories happen all the time and make playoffs fun to watch, Luverne isn't at the level to beat a team like Hermantown, Mahtomedi or even EGF. I don't think they are at the competitive level as any team in the tourney other than the team that comes out of 5A and possibly 1A. Also, I'm not using the redwood game as the sole measurement but just an example along with many other marks in the season. Lastly, you mention the youth of these players. These young kids from Luverne will evolve from very good young athletes into even better and experienced players. And if they stay, they will be fierce competitors in the following years to come.
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Post by Kinda_Normal_Tendy »

hawkenjonny wrote:Because that is playoff hockey? Maybe in your world there are no upsets or lopsided victories followed by tight games. Must be boring when the favorites always win. I wonder if you can stand to watch NHL hockey where every player is of the highest caliber? If there is any decent coaching at all, teams adjust particularly to their familiar opponents. Don't know what happened in that game as I am not from that area, but that stuff happens all the time up here. One game isn't a measuring stick for any team. These are kids, and by the look of Luverne's roster, YOUNG kids. You never know how they will respond to pressure. My own team is a study in the inconsistencies of a young yet talented team. I am still hoping to see the red mob back at the X.
They're usually referred to as the red plague down south, not so much their team, but their ignorant fans.
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Post by 12thgraders »

Kinda_Normal_Tendy wrote:
hawkenjonny wrote:Because that is playoff hockey? Maybe in your world there are no upsets or lopsided victories followed by tight games. Must be boring when the favorites always win. I wonder if you can stand to watch NHL hockey where every player is of the highest caliber? If there is any decent coaching at all, teams adjust particularly to their familiar opponents. Don't know what happened in that game as I am not from that area, but that stuff happens all the time up here. One game isn't a measuring stick for any team. These are kids, and by the look of Luverne's roster, YOUNG kids. You never know how they will respond to pressure. My own team is a study in the inconsistencies of a young yet talented team. I am still hoping to see the red mob back at the X.
They're usually referred to as the red plague down south, not so much their team, but their ignorant fans.
This page so needs a "Like" button for the posts!
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Post by InYourFace09 »

Windmill31 wrote:
hawkenjonny wrote:Because that is playoff hockey? Maybe in your world there are no upsets or lopsided victories followed by tight games. Must be boring when the favorites always win. I wonder if you can stand to watch NHL hockey where every player is of the highest caliber? If there is any decent coaching at all, teams adjust particularly to their familiar opponents. Don't know what happened in that game as I am not from that area, but that stuff happens all the time up here. One game isn't a measuring stick for any team. These are kids, and by the look of Luverne's roster, YOUNG kids. You never know how they will respond to pressure. My own team is a study in the inconsistencies of a young yet talented team. I am still hoping to see the red mob back at the X.
I'm just saying that although underdog victories happen all the time and make playoffs fun to watch, Luverne isn't at the level to beat a team like Hermantown, Mahtomedi or even EGF. I don't think they are at the competitive level as any team in the tourney other than the team that comes out of 5A and possibly 1A. Also, I'm not using the redwood game as the sole measurement but just an example along with many other marks in the season. Lastly, you mention the youth of these players. These young kids from Luverne will evolve from very good young athletes into even better and experienced players. And if they stay, they will be fierce competitors in the following years to come.
Is anyone in the class of Hermantown? And what was the outcome of the game last year in state? Everyone wrote of Luverne in the quarters and the game was not a blowout.
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Post by notTONIGHT »

Kinda_Normal_Tendy wrote:
hawkenjonny wrote:Because that is playoff hockey? Maybe in your world there are no upsets or lopsided victories followed by tight games. Must be boring when the favorites always win. I wonder if you can stand to watch NHL hockey where every player is of the highest caliber? If there is any decent coaching at all, teams adjust particularly to their familiar opponents. Don't know what happened in that game as I am not from that area, but that stuff happens all the time up here. One game isn't a measuring stick for any team. These are kids, and by the look of Luverne's roster, YOUNG kids. You never know how they will respond to pressure. My own team is a study in the inconsistencies of a young yet talented team. I am still hoping to see the red mob back at the X.
They're usually referred to as the red plague down south, not so much their team, but their ignorant fans.
ig·no·rance/ˈiɡnərəns/
noun
lack of knowledge or information.


What can you inform the igorant fans of that they dont know? You must have much more information and knowledge than any of us do.

What I know is that Luverne plays New Ulm Wednesday. They split during the season. It will be a tough match - up. Whichever team advances will have a tremendous challenge if they play Hermantown, Mahtomedi, or any of the other seeded teams. This is not breaking news.

Luverne did not have as good of a season this year as they did last year.

What can you add to that?

Maybe you just think everyone takes every post on this forum as scripture (goldenjet), if thats the case, you need to reconsider ever coming back here. Have some fun guy.... Hakuna Matata
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Post by rainier »

InYourFace09 wrote:
Windmill31 wrote:
hawkenjonny wrote:Because that is playoff hockey? Maybe in your world there are no upsets or lopsided victories followed by tight games. Must be boring when the favorites always win. I wonder if you can stand to watch NHL hockey where every player is of the highest caliber? If there is any decent coaching at all, teams adjust particularly to their familiar opponents. Don't know what happened in that game as I am not from that area, but that stuff happens all the time up here. One game isn't a measuring stick for any team. These are kids, and by the look of Luverne's roster, YOUNG kids. You never know how they will respond to pressure. My own team is a study in the inconsistencies of a young yet talented team. I am still hoping to see the red mob back at the X.
I'm just saying that although underdog victories happen all the time and make playoffs fun to watch, Luverne isn't at the level to beat a team like Hermantown, Mahtomedi or even EGF. I don't think they are at the competitive level as any team in the tourney other than the team that comes out of 5A and possibly 1A. Also, I'm not using the redwood game as the sole measurement but just an example along with many other marks in the season. Lastly, you mention the youth of these players. These young kids from Luverne will evolve from very good young athletes into even better and experienced players. And if they stay, they will be fierce competitors in the following years to come.
Is anyone in the class of Hermantown? And what was the outcome of the game last year in state? Everyone wrote of Luverne in the quarters and the game was not a blowout.
This year's Hermantown team would beat last year's Hermantown team by 3-4 goals. Luverne could give just as plucky of an effort as they did last year, but the Hawks would indeed destroy them. IF both teams make it...

I'm not knocking Luverne, just pointing out how fantastic Hermantown is this year. (And Duluth Marshall is only a half-step behind them.)
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Post by InYourFace09 »

rainier wrote:
InYourFace09 wrote:
Windmill31 wrote: I'm just saying that although underdog victories happen all the time and make playoffs fun to watch, Luverne isn't at the level to beat a team like Hermantown, Mahtomedi or even EGF. I don't think they are at the competitive level as any team in the tourney other than the team that comes out of 5A and possibly 1A. Also, I'm not using the redwood game as the sole measurement but just an example along with many other marks in the season. Lastly, you mention the youth of these players. These young kids from Luverne will evolve from very good young athletes into even better and experienced players. And if they stay, they will be fierce competitors in the following years to come.
Is anyone in the class of Hermantown? And what was the outcome of the game last year in state? Everyone wrote of Luverne in the quarters and the game was not a blowout.
This year's Hermantown team would beat last year's Hermantown team by 3-4 goals. Luverne could give just as plucky of an effort as they did last year, but the Hawks would indeed destroy them. IF both teams make it...

I'm not knocking Luverne, just pointing out how fantastic Hermantown is this year. (And Duluth Marshall is only a half-step behind them.)
So Hermantown beat up on Duluth Marshall already twice by 4 and 3 goals, so they wont be challenged at state if they are only a half step behind. Might as well give them the trophy now. Ship it.
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Post by pondhockeywizard »

Breck 7 losses to DM 5 losses.

DM beat Breck 2-0.

Why rank Breck ahead of DM?
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Post by Kinda_Normal_Tendy »

notTONIGHT wrote:
Kinda_Normal_Tendy wrote:
hawkenjonny wrote:Because that is playoff hockey? Maybe in your world there are no upsets or lopsided victories followed by tight games. Must be boring when the favorites always win. I wonder if you can stand to watch NHL hockey where every player is of the highest caliber? If there is any decent coaching at all, teams adjust particularly to their familiar opponents. Don't know what happened in that game as I am not from that area, but that stuff happens all the time up here. One game isn't a measuring stick for any team. These are kids, and by the look of Luverne's roster, YOUNG kids. You never know how they will respond to pressure. My own team is a study in the inconsistencies of a young yet talented team. I am still hoping to see the red mob back at the X.
They're usually referred to as the red plague down south, not so much their team, but their ignorant fans.
ig·no·rance/ˈiɡnərəns/
noun
lack of knowledge or information.


What can you inform the igorant fans of that they dont know? You must have much more information and knowledge than any of us do.

What I know is that Luverne plays New Ulm Wednesday. They split during the season. It will be a tough match - up. Whichever team advances will have a tremendous challenge if they play Hermantown, Mahtomedi, or any of the other seeded teams. This is not breaking news.

Luverne did not have as good of a season this year as they did last year.

What can you add to that?

Maybe you just think everyone takes every post on this forum as scripture (goldenjet), if thats the case, you need to reconsider ever coming back here. Have some fun guy.... Hakuna Matata
The last part of that post was not directed at you as much as some of the other luverne faithful that like to post such ridiculous things on here, as your posts are not always as ridiculous and/or biased as theirs. I was told by a friend from luverne that has since graduated from the team that they were actually embarrassed by the people from luverne on here. I would agree with your assessment of the game and would maybe add a few things, but that can be discussed in the other thread.
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Post by rainier »

InYourFace09 wrote:
rainier wrote:
InYourFace09 wrote: Is anyone in the class of Hermantown? And what was the outcome of the game last year in state? Everyone wrote of Luverne in the quarters and the game was not a blowout.
This year's Hermantown team would beat last year's Hermantown team by 3-4 goals. Luverne could give just as plucky of an effort as they did last year, but the Hawks would indeed destroy them. IF both teams make it...

I'm not knocking Luverne, just pointing out how fantastic Hermantown is this year. (And Duluth Marshall is only a half-step behind them.)
So Hermantown beat up on Duluth Marshall already twice by 4 and 3 goals, so they wont be challenged at state if they are only a half step behind. Might as well give them the trophy now. Ship it.
Both games were close until the last 3-4 minutes when Hermantown poured it on late, so the scores are deceiving. Hermantown is the favorite right now, as the #1 ranked team should be, but I think Duluth Marshall, Breck, Mahtomedi, and EGF all have legitimate chances to upset them should they meet. Ain't nothing gettin' shipped yet, but as of now my money is on the Hawks.
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Post by pats12 »

Windmill31 wrote:
InYourFace09 wrote:
HOCKEYDRIVER wrote:15. Luverne
Beat New Ulm 8-1 the first meeting and lost 5-2 the second. They have won all the games they scored more than 2 goals this season.

Nope they lost to ST.PAUL JOHNSON 6-5 at
Mn Day of Hockey.
And will this be the last win they get for the year?
If Luverne makes it to the X, I bet they can win a game. We will see if they get matched up with H-town in the Qtrs again.
Only way they get a win in the tourney is if they see the 5A section champions in the consolation semi, most likely SLP, and even in that game they would be underdogs. How can a team who only beat redwood valley by one goal (less than a week ago) be able to win a game at the highest level of play in high school hockey (for single A). roll eyes roll :roll: :roll:
A hot goalie and the fact that Luverne's first line will be able to log a ton of minutes because of all the TV timeouts. Why would Luverne be underdogs against SLP when they already beat them in a game played 5 miles from SLP HS? :roll: :roll:
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Post by bemused »

InYourFace09 wrote:
rainier wrote:
InYourFace09 wrote: Is anyone in the class of Hermantown? And what was the outcome of the game last year in state? Everyone wrote of Luverne in the quarters and the game was not a blowout.
This year's Hermantown team would beat last year's Hermantown team by 3-4 goals.
So Hermantown beat up on Duluth Marshall already twice by 4 and 3 goals, so they wont be challenged at state if they are only a half step behind. Might as well give them the trophy now. Ship it.
Don't do that !! let's give Plante a chance to blow another one…then they can stay in A until he retires!!!
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Post by pats12 »

rainier wrote:
InYourFace09 wrote:
Windmill31 wrote: I'm just saying that although underdog victories happen all the time and make playoffs fun to watch, Luverne isn't at the level to beat a team like Hermantown, Mahtomedi or even EGF. I don't think they are at the competitive level as any team in the tourney other than the team that comes out of 5A and possibly 1A. Also, I'm not using the redwood game as the sole measurement but just an example along with many other marks in the season. Lastly, you mention the youth of these players. These young kids from Luverne will evolve from very good young athletes into even better and experienced players. And if they stay, they will be fierce competitors in the following years to come.
Is anyone in the class of Hermantown? And what was the outcome of the game last year in state? Everyone wrote of Luverne in the quarters and the game was not a blowout.
This year's Hermantown team would beat last year's Hermantown team by 3-4 goals. Luverne could give just as plucky of an effort as they did last year, but the Hawks would indeed destroy them. IF both teams make it...

I'm not knocking Luverne, just pointing out how fantastic Hermantown is this year. (And Duluth Marshall is only a half-step behind them.)
I really like the way Htown plays, fast, clean, physical and moves the puck quickly. I don't think luverne could hang with them because of quality of their depth. Luverne's 1&2 lines hung in there very well last year, but their 3rd line gave up 2-3 cake goals with a ENG at the end. If Htown is that much better than last year they won't have a game closer than 3 goals at the X.
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Post by Froggy Richards »

bemused wrote:
InYourFace09 wrote:
rainier wrote: This year's Hermantown team would beat last year's Hermantown team by 3-4 goals.
So Hermantown beat up on Duluth Marshall already twice by 4 and 3 goals, so they wont be challenged at state if they are only a half step behind. Might as well give them the trophy now. Ship it.
Don't do that !! let's give Plante a chance to blow another one…then they can stay in A until he retires!!!
They aren't moving up even if they actually beat Karma and finally win one. It will just be a new excuse to replace the old one.
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Post by bardown27 »

pats12 wrote:
Windmill31 wrote:
InYourFace09 wrote: If Luverne makes it to the X, I bet they can win a game. We will see if they get matched up with H-town in the Qtrs again.
Only way they get a win in the tourney is if they see the 5A section champions in the consolation semi, most likely SLP, and even in that game they would be underdogs. How can a team who only beat redwood valley by one goal (less than a week ago) be able to win a game at the highest level of play in high school hockey (for single A). roll eyes roll :roll: :roll:
A hot goalie and the fact that Luverne's first line will be able to log a ton of minutes because of all the TV timeouts. Why would Luverne be underdogs against SLP when they already beat them in a game played 5 miles from SLP HS? :roll: :roll:
because if they're playing SLP in the consolation semis there won't be any tv timeouts.
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Post by pats12 »

bardown27 wrote:
pats12 wrote:
Windmill31 wrote: Only way they get a win in the tourney is if they see the 5A section champions in the consolation semi, most likely SLP, and even in that game they would be underdogs. How can a team who only beat redwood valley by one goal (less than a week ago) be able to win a game at the highest level of play in high school hockey (for single A). roll eyes roll :roll: :roll:
A hot goalie and the fact that Luverne's first line will be able to log a ton of minutes because of all the TV timeouts. Why would Luverne be underdogs against SLP when they already beat them in a game played 5 miles from SLP HS? :roll: :roll:
because if they're playing SLP in the consolation semis there won't be any tv timeouts.
Duh, I was talking about a first round game and then asked whySLP would be favorites when Luverne already beat them. There were no TV timeouts in the Schwann's Cup as these games were not televised. You might want to read everything that was quoted to make the picture more clear.
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Post by GopherPuck15 »

Luverne is indeed a team most people would love to cheer for..until you hear their fans talk and then you wish Saint Thomas was still in Class A to pound those ignorant people into the ground.
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Post by MrGoalieBoy »

GopherPuck15 wrote:Luverne is indeed a team most people would love to cheer for..until you hear their fans talk and then you wish Saint Thomas was still in Class A to pound those ignorant people into the ground.
No matter how annoying their fans are, I don't think anyone would want Saint Thomas in class A...
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