A little pet project of mine that follows the socioeconomic rise and fall of cities and suburbs in MSP via their high school hockey teams:
http://apatientcycle.com/2015/03/18/a-h ... ol-hockey/
A History of Twin Cities Urbanism, as Told by HS Hockey
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A well written piece, a nice little history lesson and a very interesting subject all in one.
I currently am in a geography class at school where we talk a lot about cities. My professor talks extensively about the difference between American and Latin American cities. In America people want to live in the suburbs, that is the ideal place to raise a family. In Latin America people want to live right in downtown and the closer you are the more well off you appear. The slums of these mega-cities are located basically where the suburbs are here.
His point with all this is that he sees all these younger generation people starting to move into Minneapolis, and he believes American cities will start to take the form of these Latin American cities.
I don't know much about this topic and he surely seems like he does, so I eat up whatever he says. And I hope he is right, I would love to see inner city and first ring suburban schools revamp their hockey programs.
Regardless if he is right or wrong this is a topic that I find fascinating, especially in Minneapolis and Minnesota when you start to incorporate hockey into the discussion.
Whatever ends up happening in the next 50 years with hockey, not just in this state, but in America will be very interesting.
I currently am in a geography class at school where we talk a lot about cities. My professor talks extensively about the difference between American and Latin American cities. In America people want to live in the suburbs, that is the ideal place to raise a family. In Latin America people want to live right in downtown and the closer you are the more well off you appear. The slums of these mega-cities are located basically where the suburbs are here.
His point with all this is that he sees all these younger generation people starting to move into Minneapolis, and he believes American cities will start to take the form of these Latin American cities.
I don't know much about this topic and he surely seems like he does, so I eat up whatever he says. And I hope he is right, I would love to see inner city and first ring suburban schools revamp their hockey programs.
Regardless if he is right or wrong this is a topic that I find fascinating, especially in Minneapolis and Minnesota when you start to incorporate hockey into the discussion.
Whatever ends up happening in the next 50 years with hockey, not just in this state, but in America will be very interesting.
Near the end you make a statement about whichever city, town, or community can get minorities on skates will be at an advantage ( or something to that point).
I was at a wrestling tournament this past winter and one team, Le Seuer, had a whole bunch of Hispanic kids on it, mostly JV but the kids were there nine the less. I was talking to one of their coaches during a break and I complimented him how they got all the Hispanic kids out since wrestling isn't really a sport common to Hispanic kids. His reply was something along the lines of "we have to, these are our students, if we don't get them to come out we won't have a program anymore".
Too many of the hockey people, at the local and state level lacked the foresight this man has and hockey is worse off for it. If we can get kids in Worthington, Fairmont, and Luverne to play hockey the fact Minneapolis has only 1 team is an embarrassment.
I was at a wrestling tournament this past winter and one team, Le Seuer, had a whole bunch of Hispanic kids on it, mostly JV but the kids were there nine the less. I was talking to one of their coaches during a break and I complimented him how they got all the Hispanic kids out since wrestling isn't really a sport common to Hispanic kids. His reply was something along the lines of "we have to, these are our students, if we don't get them to come out we won't have a program anymore".
Too many of the hockey people, at the local and state level lacked the foresight this man has and hockey is worse off for it. If we can get kids in Worthington, Fairmont, and Luverne to play hockey the fact Minneapolis has only 1 team is an embarrassment.
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Having spent some time in Latin American cities, this is more or less true. It applies to Europe as well. Historically, the US has been different due to 1) interstate highway construction, which makes it a lot easier to commute in and out of cities, 2) mortgage deductions and other government policies that make housing in the suburbs cheaper, and 3) something that comes from living in a big country with lots of open space and room to grow outward, which we like, and hearkens back to our roots as a country built on chasing the frontier westward.green4 wrote: I currently am in a geography class at school where we talk a lot about cities. My professor talks extensively about the difference between American and Latin American cities. In America people want to live in the suburbs, that is the ideal place to raise a family. In Latin America people want to live right in downtown and the closer you are the more well off you appear. The slums of these mega-cities are located basically where the suburbs are here.
His point with all this is that he sees all these younger generation people starting to move into Minneapolis, and he believes American cities will start to take the form of these Latin American cities.
When it comes to the possibility of reversing that trend, I think the big question is whether or not these young people who are repopulating the city stay there once they start having kids and outgrowing apartments/lofts in Uptown. (I'll plead guilty here...I'm one of those young people. Will I stay long-term, though? Eh. It depends on a lot of things.)
I've seen the Met Council's project growth numbers for the next 25 years, and while they expect growth in center cities, they still expect greater growth around the periphery. Who knows, they may be wrong, but that's what they're planning around.
Nice.....you also made Puck Daddy hockey headlines on Yahoo!
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck- ... 05756.html
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck- ... 05756.html