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I believe that 6 class A teams have larger enrollments than SPUInigoMontoya wrote:Is St Paul United an A team based on free and reduced, or did they petition down? In any case, it's exciting that they don't play Blake or Breck until January. Will be interesting to see if they'll leap frog any undefeated teams along the way. Pretty good start.
I know they beat Breck at least once each of the last two years, but haven't beaten Blake. Has anyone watched their new freshman goalie this year? I hope she's in net on Saturday in FLnu2hockey wrote:I believe that 6 class A teams have larger enrollments than SPUInigoMontoya wrote:Is St Paul United an A team based on free and reduced, or did they petition down? In any case, it's exciting that they don't play Blake or Breck until January. Will be interesting to see if they'll leap frog any undefeated teams along the way. Pretty good start.
Owatonna
New Prague
Sibley
Northfield
Mahtomedi
Alexandria
Nevertoomuchhockey wrote:I know they beat Breck at least once each of the last two years, but haven't beaten Blake. Has anyone watched their new freshman goalie this year? I hope she's in net on Saturday in FLnu2hockey wrote:I believe that 6 class A teams have larger enrollments than SPUInigoMontoya wrote:Is St Paul United an A team based on free and reduced, or did they petition down? In any case, it's exciting that they don't play Blake or Breck until January. Will be interesting to see if they'll leap frog any undefeated teams along the way. Pretty good start.
Owatonna
New Prague
Sibley
Northfield
Mahtomedi
Alexandria
They got outshot 43 to 5, presumably without the graduated goalie's dad manipulating the SOG on the hub.itsfoilcoach wrote:
SSP 7-1 win. Tied 1-1 going into the second period. Starting goalie got hurt and went down hill fast from there. Losing a starting goalie affects the team and outcome majority of the time. Always strong be the end of the year.
"Go to some games." That's funny. I'm sure whatever mystery player you accuse of being cheap - "you had to see it to believe it" - cares more about what the refs think than what you do.nu2hockey wrote:The number of students a school reports for classification with MSHS league is reduced by the number of students who qualify for the free lunch program...in some schools this is very significant...Rochester school district has even balanced their school boundaries according to free lunch numbers in the past.
FL is a stronger opponent than ssp and those listed..hence play stronger goalie and let her reap benefit of playing stronger teams
Unless they lose and she stinks it up...wins against weaker opponents won't open eyes to a goalie's play
Speaking of ssp earlier, guess how goalie got hurt...hint cheap slash on wrist...you had to see it to believe it..go to some games and watch
A case of people voting on legacy and not watching and/or paying attention ..LVN has had a nice run of very strong teams,at this time, this team isn't measuring up to those past teamsMNHockeyFan wrote:Anyone know what's going on with Lakeville North? Injuries or illnesses perhaps? They started out ranked No. 7 but they're now 1-5, and no longer appear in the Top 20. Their last loss was to Eastview - who is not yet ranked - and it wasn't even close.
Hopefully the Panthers can right the ship and start to play like the people who do the rankings thought they were capable of.
Some teams reload, others have to rebuild. I think it's the latter for North this year. Caught a period and a half of their Hill game and all of last night's game against my new favorite team. They worked hard for a period then just flatlined. Strong at the linebacker position but not much else going on there.MNHockeyFan wrote:Anyone know what's going on with Lakeville North? Injuries or illnesses perhaps? They started out ranked No. 7 but they're now 1-5, and no longer appear in the Top 20. Their last loss was to Eastview - who is not yet ranked - and it wasn't even close.
Hopefully the Panthers can right the ship and start to play like the people who do the rankings thought they were capable of.
Graduation!MNHockeyFan wrote:Anyone know what's going on with Lakeville North? Injuries or illnesses perhaps? They started out ranked No. 7 but they're now 1-5, and no longer appear in the Top 20. Their last loss was to Eastview - who is not yet ranked - and it wasn't even close.
Hopefully the Panthers can right the ship and start to play like the people who do the rankings thought they were capable of.
You would think the demographics in Lakeville would be in their favor, in terms of the number of girls coming up through their youth program. But considering the rather dramatic falloff from where they were, maybe that's no longer the case. Oh well, thanks to everyone who took the time to reply.MN_Bowhunter wrote:Some teams reload, others have to rebuild. I think it's the latter for North this year.
. nu2hockey With a comment like that... you should stick to hunting.MN_Bowhunter wrote:Which explains SSP's current ranking as well. Worst team they've ever put on the ice.nu2hockey wrote:
A case of people voting on legacy and not watching and/or paying attention
Yes the name fits.. Bowhunter hit a bullseye with that comment IMOitsfoilcoach wrote:with a comment like that.... Your name fits.MN_Bowhunter wrote:Which explains SSP's current ranking as well. Worst team they've ever put on the ice.nu2hockey wrote:
A case of people voting on legacy and not watching and/or paying attention
To be fair, I stole that line from my buddy MN_Carpenter. He really hit the nail on the head.AAA Dad wrote:Yes the name fits.. Bowhunter hit a bullseye with that comment IMOitsfoilcoach wrote:with a comment like that.... Your name fits.MN_Bowhunter wrote: Which explains SSP's current ranking as well. Worst team they've ever put on the ice.
Good points. Being ranked 6 through 20 in Single A is kind of like getting a ribbon for finishing 9th in a 10 person race. My apologies.itsfoilcoach wrote:. nu2hockey With a comment like that... you should stick to hunting.MN_Bowhunter wrote:Which explains SSP's current ranking as well. Worst team they've ever put on the ice.nu2hockey wrote:
A case of people voting on legacy and not watching and/or paying attention
So - SSP ranked at 14? They beat Hibbing (rank 16) twice last year according to the Hub. Once in a holiday tourney, and once in the state tourney. Then this year they skated to a 2-2 tie with Westonka (rank 12) this year For ease of math for you, thats two rankings above SSPs current ranking . SSP beat Northfield (rank 20) this year. So they should be dropped down to... what? Its not like they are in the top 10 here.
Over ranked -
TRF (rank 2?), Give them credit...They beat power house West Fargo ND, and Crookston, and power house Park Rapids twice. Then they come to the cities and lost 7-1 and 7-2 however...oops. Dang city teams. But the rankings said this should of been closer. Teams do have bad games though.
East Grand Forks (rank 6?) - Lost to Mound Westonks (rank 12th), un-ranked Hastings. But only lost to TRF by one goal... TRF and EGF played to a 2-1 final burning up that score board with those high powered offences from the north woods. Im sure that scoring punch is why they are ranked so high.
How about Alex (ranked 10th). They are beating power houses like North Wright, Sauk Rapids, and Sartell. Holy crap are they good. They did lose to Mound Westonka that is ranked currently in the 12 slot that beat SSP (ranked 14th). Which is slightly lower than their ranking of 10th currently , so that does makes sense. But these ranking are pretty accurate, computer glitch?. Mound Westonka (rank 12th) beat SSP (rank 14th) this year. No wait, they didn't beat SSP, my bad...but those rankings say they should of. Just going by what Bowhunter said that SSP is over ranked. Thanks Bowhunter you put me down the wrong path here. You must be messing with my mind. or you must be thinking of that deer you missed this fall.
Its still to early for anyone to draw conclusions on any ranking in my opinion. Though its fun to jump in on this, lets see in February were it shakes out.
nu2hockey sounds like someone pissed in your Wheaties>..knucklehead? Is this where I say sticks and stones. Lets not make this a SSP thing. That's not my intention. The ranking system is a mystery to me, and that's my point in all this. Though it sounds like you have a personal issue with that program (maybe on the losing end I assume). I do like the dropping down point (AAADad). I found that a bit funny myself. But lets not get into that Blake/SPU/Breck/Hill argument about moving up , or down. I will say this, there is a lot of dynasties that we could pick on how they got there. You want more accurate rankings. I would look at the KRACH rankings. Looks like Spring Lake Park (AA 9th) could be title bound. Maybe its WB coming in at a 4 ranking just behind Hill and Edina>. None of these ranking formulas are too accurate this early. Glory days..not sure I follow that. Though Im not an expert on SSP history. They did have a state appearance last year. Is it over? One thing about girls hockey is that its very unpredictable, I think we all can agree on that I hope.AAA Dad wrote:IFC...Most here know the proud history of SSP (aka title town)
My personal favorite part of SSP history is when the year after winning the AA State Tournament Palmquist drops down to A and wins that tourney the next year... Nice work!! Gutty way to defend title!! This team still gets more ink then most in paper and on The Hub purely due to history and coaches connections....Enjoy the old glory day memories because IMO they are over...
Enjoy the regular season!!
