Section 7AA 2015-16

WestMetro · Post by **WestMetro** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 6:40 pm

Oh, hadnt looked at this thread for a while. Thought maybe Dunnell had returned.

TheHockeyDJ · Post by **TheHockeyDJ** » Sun Nov 15, 2015 7:51 am

I'm just curious about Huson, so he played at LVN, but then BSM before moving to GR? Was he varisty or jv at BSM? Again, I'm just curious about the player, not at all about the earlier comments about him/family in this thread.

Sats81 · Post by **Sats81** » Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:26 am

TheHockeyDJ wrote:I'm just curious about Huson, so he played at LVN, but then BSM before moving to GR? Was he varisty or jv at BSM? Again, I'm just curious about the player, not at all about the earlier comments about him/family in this thread.

LN youth hockey. BSM JV.

hadenuf · Post by **hadenuf** » Tue Nov 17, 2015 11:58 am

The blue line WILL be an issue this year. I foresee Klatt moving a senior back there to give it some grit.

northwoods oldtimer · Post by **northwoods oldtimer** » Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:41 pm

Elk river, east and rapids all sound to be top teams. What teams will be potential spoilers this season?

TheHockeyDJ · Post by **TheHockeyDJ** » Wed Nov 18, 2015 8:56 pm

northwoods oldtimer wrote:Elk river, east and rapids all sound to be top teams. What teams will be potential spoilers this season?

As long as Dave Esse is the head coach at Cloquet is this even a question?

kniven · Post by **kniven** » Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:07 pm

TheHockeyDJ wrote:
northwoods oldtimer wrote:Elk river, east and rapids all sound to be top teams. What teams will be potential spoilers this season?
As long as Dave Esse is the head coach at Cloquet is this even a question?

Exactly! Please, Please underestimate the Lumberjacks before your team (s) play them. Look beyond them to your next opponent

northwoods oldtimer · Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:18 pm

TheHockeyDJ wrote:
northwoods oldtimer wrote:Elk river, east and rapids all sound to be top teams. What teams will be potential spoilers this season?
As long as Dave Esse is the head coach at Cloquet is this even a question?

Thought maybe you two self proclaimed 7AA geniuses could come up with some insight into the strength of other teams but apparently that is not the case.

kniven · Post by **kniven** » Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:45 pm

northwoods oldtimer wrote:
TheHockeyDJ wrote:
northwoods oldtimer wrote:Elk river, east and rapids all sound to be top teams. What teams will be potential spoilers this season?
As long as Dave Esse is the head coach at Cloquet is this even a question?
Thought maybe you two self proclaimed 7AA geniuses could come up with some insight into the strength of other teams but apparently that is not the case.

Lol. I'm not a self proclaimed 7AA genius , but I do observe a lot of 7 AA hockey. GR, East, and ER as always the favorites. The rest will fight it out to join these 3 powers in the quarter finals at the end of the year. CEC will fight the fight. Talent wise, we rarely have the most each year. We play AA hockey and compete quite well each year with less talent. That's all.

mulefarm · Post by **mulefarm** » Thu Nov 19, 2015 7:13 am

kniven wrote:
northwoods oldtimer wrote:
TheHockeyDJ wrote: As long as Dave Esse is the head coach at Cloquet is this even a question?
Thought maybe you two self proclaimed 7AA geniuses could come up with some insight into the strength of other teams but apparently that is not the case.
Lol. I'm not a self proclaimed 7AA genius , but I do observe a lot of 7 AA hockey. GR, East, and ER as always the favorites. The rest will fight it out to join these 3 powers in the quarter finals at the end of the year. CEC will fight the fight. Talent wise, we rarely have the most each year. We play AA hockey and compete quite well each year with less talent. That's all.

I would say East is the favorite and the rest will fight it out to see who plays East in the finals.

northwoods oldtimer · Post by **northwoods oldtimer** » Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:12 am

mulefarm wrote:
kniven wrote:
northwoods oldtimer wrote: Thought maybe you two self proclaimed 7AA geniuses could come up with some insight into the strength of other teams but apparently that is not the case.
Lol. I'm not a self proclaimed 7AA genius , but I do observe a lot of 7 AA hockey. GR, East, and ER as always the favorites. The rest will fight it out to join these 3 powers in the quarter finals at the end of the year. CEC will fight the fight. Talent wise, we rarely have the most each year. We play AA hockey and compete quite well each year with less talent. That's all.
I would say East is the favorite and the rest will fight it out to see who plays East in the finals.

Just the kind of detailed breakdown I was looking for, thanks mulefarm!

alcloseshaver · Post by **alcloseshaver** » Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:28 pm

No posts in quite awhile on the venerable 7AA. Must be the calm before the storm.

kniven · Post by **kniven** » Mon Dec 07, 2015 7:03 pm

alcloseshaver wrote:No posts in quite awhile on the venerable 7AA. Must be the calm before the storm.

Yea. Big week for Cloquet. We head to Rapids tomorrow night and host Duluth East on Thursday. The atmosphere at both games is always very exciting.

TheHockeyDJ · Post by **TheHockeyDJ** » Mon Dec 07, 2015 7:10 pm

kniven wrote:
alcloseshaver wrote:No posts in quite awhile on the venerable 7AA. Must be the calm before the storm.
Yea. Big week for Cloquet. We head to Rapids tomorrow night and host Duluth East on Thursday. The atmosphere at both games is always very exciting.

Yea, it really gets going this week, plus Elk River playing Blaine, while not a 7AA opponent is still a solid team to give fans some idea of what Elk River might look like this year. I guess there should of been more 7AA talk last week with East playing Andover to a 6-5 win. That kinda came out of nowhere. I don't know if that is chalked up to a shaky game for the Hounds goalie or if Andover is going to be a legit threat to maybe get a 4 seed or higher. Grand Rapids hopefully learned in the 1st period vs Virginia that you can't let off the gas pedal against anyone and it isn't a lesson that needs to be repeated. Dave Esse IMO has the talent to pull off the upsets that they have time and again in the past. Both CEC games are huge this week for how 7AA will shake out.

Post by **karl(east)** » Mon Dec 07, 2015 7:39 pm

TheHockeyDJ wrote: I guess there should of been more 7AA talk last week with East playing Andover to a 6-5 win. That kinda came out of nowhere. I don't know if that is chalked up to a shaky game for the Hounds goalie or if Andover is going to be a legit threat to maybe get a 4 seed or higher.

I wouldn't blame the goalie when the team gives up 4 PP goals. East has been parading to the box so far this season, and will need to rein that in. Despite the one-goal game, I wouldn't put Andover among the upset threats.

TheHockeyDJ · Post by **TheHockeyDJ** » Mon Dec 07, 2015 7:42 pm

karl(east) wrote:
TheHockeyDJ wrote: I guess there should of been more 7AA talk last week with East playing Andover to a 6-5 win. That kinda came out of nowhere. I don't know if that is chalked up to a shaky game for the Hounds goalie or if Andover is going to be a legit threat to maybe get a 4 seed or higher.
I wouldn't blame the goalie when the team gives up 4 PP goals. East has been parading to the box so far this season, and will need to rein that in. Despite the one-goal game, I wouldn't put Andover among the upset threats.

Penalties certainly put a goaltender in a bad spot. That said a team can score good goals or weak goals on the power play. I haven't seen any highlights of the game so I have no way of knowing, nor have I seen anyone who was at the game comment on whether those power play goals were more the result of great puck movement or soft goaltending.

BodyShots · Post by **BodyShots** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:03 am

kniven wrote:
alcloseshaver wrote:No posts in quite awhile on the venerable 7AA. Must be the calm before the storm.
Yea. Big week for Cloquet. We head to Rapids tomorrow night and host Duluth East on Thursday. The atmosphere at both games is always very exciting.

Given that Cloquet lost to both WBL and BJ, I'm figuring running time in both of these games.

Usthockey13 · Post by **Usthockey13** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:14 am

TheHockeyDJ wrote:
karl(east) wrote:
TheHockeyDJ wrote: I guess there should of been more 7AA talk last week with East playing Andover to a 6-5 win. That kinda came out of nowhere. I don't know if that is chalked up to a shaky game for the Hounds goalie or if Andover is going to be a legit threat to maybe get a 4 seed or higher.
I wouldn't blame the goalie when the team gives up 4 PP goals. East has been parading to the box so far this season, and will need to rein that in. Despite the one-goal game, I wouldn't put Andover among the upset threats.
Penalties certainly put a goaltender in a bad spot. That said a team can score good goals or weak goals on the power play. I haven't seen any highlights of the game so I have no way of knowing, nor have I seen anyone who was at the game comment on whether those power play goals were more the result of great puck movement or soft goaltending.

Outside of the PP for Andover East outplayed them throughout the game. Each time East controlled the play they would head to the box. The 1st two goals Mierehoff was hung out to dry and last two PP goals one was 6 on 3 and then 6 on 4

TheHockeyDJ · Post by **TheHockeyDJ** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:25 am

Rapids over Cloquet 5-0 tonight (shots 43-9). There was a 25 minute stretch CEC didn't get a shot on goal. If it wasn't for CEC's goalie standing on his head it would've been 9-0. Really feel bad for CEC and miss the days when they were super competitive, but it sounds like Cloquet has a very bright future given the success of their current bantam team. I don't hold much hope for them to upset East on Thursday, but it seems like over the years they give their most spirited effort against the Hounds.

BodyShots · Post by **BodyShots** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:31 am

TheHockeyDJ wrote:Rapids over Cloquet 5-0 tonight (shots 43-9). There was a 25 minute stretch CEC didn't get a shot on goal. If it wasn't for CEC's goalie standing on his head it would've been 9-0. Really feel bad for CEC and miss the days when they were super competitive, but it sounds like Cloquet has a very bright future given the success of their current bantam team. I don't hold much hope for them to upset East on Thursday, but it seems like over the years they give their most spirited effort against the Hounds.

Can we finally put the last nail in the coffin? I'm tired of hearing about what a great coach Esse is and that he will have this team ready to pull off an upset in the sections. Cloquet is no match for DE, GR, and ER. (25 minutes without a shot on goal!

) At best they will be a four seed that is way below the first three. Who knows, they might not even be the 4 seed anymore.

TheHockeyDJ · Post by **TheHockeyDJ** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:38 am

BodyShots wrote:
TheHockeyDJ wrote:Rapids over Cloquet 5-0 tonight (shots 43-9). There was a 25 minute stretch CEC didn't get a shot on goal. If it wasn't for CEC's goalie standing on his head it would've been 9-0. Really feel bad for CEC and miss the days when they were super competitive, but it sounds like Cloquet has a very bright future given the success of their current bantam team. I don't hold much hope for them to upset East on Thursday, but it seems like over the years they give their most spirited effort against the Hounds.
Can we finally put the last nail in the coffin? I'm tired of hearing about what a great coach Esse is and that he will have this team ready to pull off an upset in the sections. Cloquet is no match for DE, GR, and ER. (25 minutes without a shot on goal! ) At best they will be a four seed that is way below the first three. Who knows, they might not even be the 4 seed anymore.

You have to have some talent to win. Cloquet's loss was in no way a reflection of poor coaching on Esse's part. His resume is proof enough that he is a really good HS coach. As for this season, I do agree at this point that Cloquet is looking like a 5-7 seed. They could certainly lose to Forest Lake and Andover, which both of those teams have no chance of being a contender in 7AA. Right now it really feels like Elk River will probably be the 3 seed and Grand Rapids and Duluth East are gonna decide the 1 and 2 seed on Jan 7th in GR. One thing to watch in this is if Cloquet were to drop to the 6th seed and play at Elk River, by that time Esse could have his squad playing well enough to make it interesting. I think more than once CEC has taken ER to overtime in the quarterfinals as a much lower seed. Didn't that happen when it was a 1 vs 8?

alcloseshaver · Post by **alcloseshaver** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:00 pm

TheHockeyDJ wrote:
BodyShots wrote:
TheHockeyDJ wrote:Rapids over Cloquet 5-0 tonight (shots 43-9). There was a 25 minute stretch CEC didn't get a shot on goal. If it wasn't for CEC's goalie standing on his head it would've been 9-0. Really feel bad for CEC and miss the days when they were super competitive, but it sounds like Cloquet has a very bright future given the success of their current bantam team. I don't hold much hope for them to upset East on Thursday, but it seems like over the years they give their most spirited effort against the Hounds.
Can we finally put the last nail in the coffin? I'm tired of hearing about what a great coach Esse is and that he will have this team ready to pull off an upset in the sections. Cloquet is no match for DE, GR, and ER. (25 minutes without a shot on goal! ) At best they will be a four seed that is way below the first three. Who knows, they might not even be the 4 seed anymore.
2-7 game, the year East stole the one seed.

You have to have some talent to win. Cloquet's loss was in no way a reflection of poor coaching on Esse's part. His resume is proof enough that he is a really good HS coach. As for this season, I do agree at this point that Cloquet is looking like a 5-7 seed. They could certainly lose to Forest Lake and Andover, which both of those teams have no chance of being a contender in 7AA. Right now it really feels like Elk River will probably be the 3 seed and Grand Rapids and Duluth East are gonna decide the 1 and 2 seed on Jan 7th in GR. One thing to watch in this is if Cloquet were to drop to the 6th seed and play at Elk River, by that time Esse could have his squad playing well enough to make it interesting. I think more than once CEC has taken ER to overtime in the quarterfinals as a much lower seed. Didn't that happen when it was a 1 vs 8?

TheHockeyDJ · Post by **TheHockeyDJ** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:25 pm

I remember warning you ER fans that East would find a way to swindle that 1 seed. That was such a crock. As bad as GR being a 3 seed on the initial vote in 2002 and then dropping to the 5 seed on the final vote.

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:25 pm

QRF thus far, (which is meaningless at this stage and some argue always), but a nice list.

QRF overall ranking, QRF points, section record, overall record.
No. 3 Elk River/Zimmerman (74.8 ) 0-0-0 4-0-0
No. 4 Duluth East (72.3) 2-0-0 4-0-0
No. 13 Forest Lake (51.9) 0-0-0 4-0-1
No. 16 St. Francis (48.1) 1-0-0 3-3-0
No. 24 C-E-C (41.6) 1-1-0 3-3-0
No. 28 Grand Rapids (40.3) 1-0-0 5-1-1
No. 50 Andover (18.7) 0-1-0 2-3-0
No. 56 Cambridge-Isanti (13.3) 0-2-0 1-5-0
No. 63 Duluth Marshall (6.6) 0-1-0 0-5-0

Redoing it:
DEAst, GRapids, ERiver are going to be 1, 2, and 3 in some order (unless something bad happens to someone).

4 5 belong to Forest Lake or Cloquet (losing to one of the best teams in the state does not make you a bad team).
6 7 Andover or DMarshall - if they can get their act together.
8 9 St Francis or Cambridge

hawkenjonny · Post by **hawkenjonny** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 3:19 pm

Nailing the coffin? In early December? As happy as I was to see my Thawks beat the jacks, I would save the hardware. I don't expect Cloquet to beat any of the proposed top 3, so if this is just in reference to seeding, you may be right, but there is a lot of season left. I for one am not counting any chickens just yet on ANYONE.