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Whiner33
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Post by Whiner33 »

pats12 wrote:Eagles can't catch a break through 2 periods tonight.
Break???????
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Post by pats12 »

Wreckincrew wrote:
Maybe Luverne just has a hard time playing against Eagles?
Not so much tonight. :shock:
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Post by pats12 »

Congrats to Chaz Smedrud on reaching 300 pt. milestone tonight!
HILARY2016
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Post by HILARY2016 »

really needed to have the kid on pk in the 3rd to notch another shorty?
I am starting to agree many Bantam B metro teams could compete here
Whiner33
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Post by Whiner33 »

HILARY2016 wrote:really needed to have the kid on pk in the 3rd to notch another shorty?
I am starting to agree many Bantam B metro teams could compete here
Buy Hilary a sucker and a Christmas tree for your fake ornaments!
Whiner33
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Post by Whiner33 »

InigoMontoya wrote:I'm also not sure why a close win against New Ulm makes them a disappointment. That is the Eagles' only loss to date - I was contemplating a drive on Jan 8 for a little hockey and some schnitzengruben.
You make it out last night?
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Post by CherryPicker99 »

Good luck to Chaz Smedsrud tonight. He has a chance to take 3rd Place on the all time points list. Spehar is currently 3rd with 306. Nice accomplishment for Chaz.
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Post by lamplighter98 »

CherryPicker99 wrote:Good luck to Chaz Smedsrud tonight. He has a chance to take 3rd Place on the all time points list. Spehar is currently 3rd with 306. Nice accomplishment for Chaz.
If Nelson keeps putting up the numbers like he has, I think 100 goals in a little over 2 years, do you think he passes up his linemate by the end of his HS days?
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Post by notTONIGHT »

lamplighter98 wrote:
CherryPicker99 wrote:Good luck to Chaz Smedsrud tonight. He has a chance to take 3rd Place on the all time points list. Spehar is currently 3rd with 306. Nice accomplishment for Chaz.
If Nelson keeps putting up the numbers like he has, I think 100 goals in a little over 2 years, do you think he passes up his linemate by the end of his HS days?
Definitely. He could make a run at Hanowski's 405.
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Post by HILARY2016 »

notTONIGHT wrote:
lamplighter98 wrote:
CherryPicker99 wrote:Good luck to Chaz Smedsrud tonight. He has a chance to take 3rd Place on the all time points list. Spehar is currently 3rd with 306. Nice accomplishment for Chaz.
If Nelson keeps putting up the numbers like he has, I think 100 goals in a little over 2 years, do you think he passes up his linemate by the end of his HS days?
Definitely. He could make a run at Hanowski's 405.
Would it be asterisk like the steroid era for baseball? Being majority of the points come from 3A? Little Falls played in a much tougher conference.
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Post by Whiner33 »

HILARY2016 wrote:
notTONIGHT wrote:
lamplighter98 wrote: If Nelson keeps putting up the numbers like he has, I think 100 goals in a little over 2 years, do you think he passes up his linemate by the end of his HS days?
Definitely. He could make a run at Hanowski's 405.
Would it be asterisk like the steroid era for baseball? Being majority of the points come from 3A? Little Falls played in a much tougher conference.
I can't believe that the people from Luverne ever gave you a penny! You're a fraud!
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Post by greenway1969 »

This is a good example of records not having a lot of meaning. Most of the competition Luverne plays is Bantam A or below. This is not a knock against the kid just an illustration of a fairly meaningless record.
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Post by elliott70 »

pats12 wrote:
greenway1969 wrote:This is a good example of records not having a lot of meaning. Most of the competition Luverne plays is Bantam A or below. This is not a knock against the kid just an illustration of a fairly meaningless record.
You have no clue about this kid, team or their competition. 7A is a joke besides Hermantown so why don't you keep your jealousy to yourself. You and trout should check into a mental institution so each have a friend to talk to. You must really be a loser if you goal in life is to bash on 15 year old kids. Pitiful!
Whoa, you need to apologize, or kiss this board goodbye.
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Post by TheSiouxSuck »

HILARY2016 wrote:
notTONIGHT wrote:
lamplighter98 wrote: If Nelson keeps putting up the numbers like he has, I think 100 goals in a little over 2 years, do you think he passes up his linemate by the end of his HS days?
Definitely. He could make a run at Hanowski's 405.
Would it be asterisk like the steroid era for baseball? Being majority of the points come from 3A? Little Falls played in a much tougher conference.
Hilarious because when Hanowski was going for the record people were bemoaning Little Falls weak schedule. Hell people were saying that John Pohl played class A back when he was making his run at Spehars record. I dont think anyone is saying these kids would be putting up these kinds of points if they played a schedule like Edina or BSM. What is a talented kid supposed to do when he's stuck playing weak competition?
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Post by elliott70 »

Greenway was not bashing the kid.

Hilary may have gone too far, but not as far as you.

And as siouxsuck stated its always discussed when a player nears a record.

I have seen this kid play. He is really a good player. If he was playing at Edina would he be setting a record, maybe. But because of schedules things get questioned.

Just don't get yourself banned.
hawkenjonny
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Post by hawkenjonny »

Wow. The majority of the hockey community in our state would certainly be willing to recognize a nice accomplishment such as a 300+ career, BUT they would also be able to recognize that this marker does NOT carry the same weight in 3A as it would in some (all) other sections. Not the kids fault (15? really? thought he was a senior....). Come on 3A faithful, don't give people more reason to not take you seriously. Personal records are nice, team success more important. Hope to see you in St. Paul this year.
Whiner33
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Post by Whiner33 »

I suppose 300 + points is equivalent to 30 in these metro areas and 100 goals is equivalent to 10 goals because these metro kids work so much harder for their points. Got it now. Noted
hawkenjonny
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Post by hawkenjonny »

Again, so defensive. 300 is huge for sure, but competition does play a part, which if 'you get it' you would understand. The kid is a really nice player, and hats off to him. Not his fault the section is weak, but there would be quite a few players with those numbers if they played there. Sorry if you disagree, or don't get it. Guess I got defensive when they compare it to Spehar or some others.
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Post by Whiner33 »

hawkenjonny wrote:Again, so defensive. 300 is huge for sure, but competition does play a part, which if 'you get it' you would understand. The kid is a really nice player, and hats off to him. Not his fault the section is weak, but there would be quite a few players with those numbers if they played there. Sorry if you disagree, or don't get it. Guess I got defensive when they compare it to Spehar or some others.
Jonny I do get what you're saying. But if someone put up 600 they would say 3A weak schedule etc. So let's just call it the trout affect for the cardinals poor schedule. We will just play all home games halfway next year so we can get the tough schedule. (Neutral sites)Bring back the GM as soon as possible!
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Post by Bluelightspecial-II »

Whiner33 wrote:I suppose 300 + points is equivalent to 30 in these metro areas and 100 goals is equivalent to 10 goals because these metro kids work so much harder for their points. Got it now. Noted

Don't forget the 7 points in 20 Elite League games this year. All joking aside, great player, great kid. Congrats!!!
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Post by Sats81 »

Whiner33 wrote:I suppose 300 + points is equivalent to 30 in these metro areas and 100 goals is equivalent to 10 goals because these metro kids work so much harder for their points. Got it now. Noted
No probably more like half. 300= 150 career pts for a tough AA schedule I would say.

Look, congrats to this kid but no offense to him but mentioning him in the same Breath as Johnny Pohl, Ben Hanowski (2 guys who were tremendous college players) and both played in the NHL and Dave Spehar who had a very respectable (although not as good as many anticipated) college career isn't fair. All 3 were much better HS players and I think it's a stretch for him to even play at.a lower tier D1.

Before you all get too excited and pissed off over nothing it's the truth. Bottom line.
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Post by goldy313 »

Ummmm, Johnny Pohl played at a class A school in a weak class A conference and in the weakest Class A section. He put up a lot of points against some very bad teams. By no means was he a sure thing when he went to Minnesota. There were people complaining about him when he was in high school too, it worked out for him I think.
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Post by Sats81 »

goldy313 wrote:Ummmm, Johnny Pohl played at a class A school in a weak class A conference and in the weakest Class A section. He put up a lot of points against some very bad teams. By no means was he a sure thing when he went to Minnesota. There were people complaining about him when he was in high school too, it worked out for him I think.
Did I say he played a tough HS schedule? I know you have a hard time usually goldy but open your eyes. Luverne kid has zero right being mentioned with someone like Pohl who proved his HS career was no fluke becoming one of top 10 scorers is gopher history and playing in the show.

Wake up and go watch some more Rochester games
hawkenjonny
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Post by hawkenjonny »

Whiner33 wrote:
hawkenjonny wrote:Again, so defensive. 300 is huge for sure, but competition does play a part, which if 'you get it' you would understand. The kid is a really nice player, and hats off to him. Not his fault the section is weak, but there would be quite a few players with those numbers if they played there. Sorry if you disagree, or don't get it. Guess I got defensive when they compare it to Spehar or some others.
Jonny I do get what you're saying. But if someone put up 600 they would say 3A weak schedule etc. So let's just call it the trout affect for the cardinals poor schedule. We will just play all home games halfway next year so we can get the tough schedule. (Neutral sites)Bring back the GM as soon as possible!
Have seen both he and the Nelson kid play Elite and he is a good player. Nice hands and good net awareness. If I were a coach from Luverne I would be furious that you play some of these teams twice. Ridiculous. Hope to see the cards in March. And hopefully my underachieving THawks as well.
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Post by goldy313 »

Why doesn't the Luverne kid get a chance to prove his high school career is no fluke? People were highly skeptical Pohl would even see much ice at Minnesota, first he was doing in southern Minnesota, then because it was against class A teams, there were excuses all over the place. Same with Hanowski.

Ironically, The year Pohl won Mr. Hockey his section opponents were Fairmont, Le Seuer, and New Ulm......all whom now play in the same conference as Luverne.
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