Mounds View is likely looking for a new coach

[Dusey]

I will be attending the next MV School Board Meeting - August 23rd - 7:00 p.m. - corner of Hamline Avenue and Lydia Street in Roseville <br>I want to be sitting front and center during the Open Forum - guess it's quite interesting - the speakers throwing all the actual facts at the School Bored! and the School Board just sits there and says nothing, notta. <br><br>Join me! <p></p><i></i>

[hockeydad]

In defense of the school board for not responding at the meeting, many school boards have a policy of not responding directly to comments and questions made at the open forum immediately, but instead getting more information and then responding at a future meeting. I like this policy. I've seen it happen when someone starts brings up a complaint or an accusation and a school board member responds and defends the district without all the facts and it just deteriorates into a shouting match. Not productive at all, and it leaves everyone feeling a little dirty. <p></p><i></i>

[OFFSIDES GUY]

Understand your reasoning hockeydad except for one huge point- the mv people who support fair treatment of employee's have been at 3 board meetings DEMANDING an accounting of their actions and have not heard any responses. Have been told privately to put up a " code of silence" in hopes this goes away. Us in the coaches association have demanded some answers and have received only contradictory responses. Some members of Nitti's have received e-mails from individual members that are incriminating other peoples actions in this mess. Trust me this has spun out of control with no end in sight. Bottom line is from ANY one that has studied this situation- including neutral parties close to the action- this thing has been bungled by the administration. No other way around it. Probably not enough to get Nitti's job back this year but believe me there is alot more to this story. The media has started crawling around this and judging from their findings the " stone faces " at MV administration will begin to squirm. They messed up plain and simple. No way around it. Check this post in 6 weeks and let me know back I was dead on- count on it. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p074.ezboard.com/bmnhs.showUserP ... y>OFFSIDES GUY</A> at: 8/19/05 11:11 pm<br></i>

[Light The Lamp Guy]

Would just like to claim I told you so. Found out who Shloppy was and just like I suspected was not a part of our teams. Was a borderline JV player as a sophomore and didn't play again, junior gold I believe. No way has any credibility in accessing how Coach Nitti handled our varsity teams. Closest thing he got to our varsity action was his face painted green in the stands leading a cheer. So all you clowns who jumped on shloppy's posts like he actually knew something or experienced something guess again. Kudos to offsides guy on his call on this matter. Talk to us people who played for him or had some direct contact with the program not to the wannabees who are disgruntled. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p074.ezboard.com/bmnhs.showUserP ... pguy>Light The Lamp Guy</A> at: 8/19/05 11:26 pm<br></i>

[Dusey]

Hockeyday, you do sound a bit like the voice of reason, but you truly don't know the facts of this case. The School Board and Admin have had ample time to examine the facts and have chosen the road of silence, totally in support of the admin, which was "duped" by the Nitti detractors. At this point, the only party "feeling a little dirty" is the school board. <br>Having said that, and coming off somewhat harsh, the school board still has time to redeem itself for it's "governanced" behavior. Just out of curiosity, how many goverment bodies have governances unto themselves, and not unto their constituents. This will be an issue in the next election, mark my words. Can you imagine any elected official being "handcuffed" by a governance with states "a member will give direction as the whole, not as individuals" or will "seek first to understand rather than to be understood". Sounds to me like a verse out of a monestarian monk guide book. But, I suppose that's what one would expect from this group of "better than thou" school board members. <p></p><i></i>

[Forest Dump]

Now you tell me what's wrong with a SB member making some notes and asking an open forum speaker very simple questions, without embarrasing the Admin or SB, such as:<br><br>Mr. or Mrs. ?????, as a matter of interest for myself, from whom did you recieve your facts, or if what you say is true, would you mind documenting some things for me and e-mailing them so I may investigate properly. I appreciate your interest and comments and will do my due diligence in order to resolve this matter in the best interests of the community.<br><br>What in the h... is wrong with a simple statement like that ? I think that is just doing your job as an elected official.<br><br>But this stone-faced MV School Board is less responsive than Mt. Rushmore. <br><br>Don't print that: Heard a rumor that the SB Chairman was asked, by an outstanding member of the community, to resign for a comment which was made at the end of the open forum on August 9th. <br><br>Got a hunch this "fire" is going to be hard to control.<br><br>Might have to enlist the volunteer L.J.F.D. <p></p><i></i>

[hockeydad]

after reading recent posts, it does sound like the board is shirking its duties by not addressing something that has stretched on for three meetings. <br><br>Whether it's asking the administration to look into it further, expressing support for the administration's actions or asking for the AD to reconsider the firing - um - I mean, "non-renewal," they should do SOMETHING....anything. <br><br>I do stand behind my belief, though, that getting into a pissing contest at a school board meeting does no good whatsoever. I've seen that happen too many times. But if the board isn't going to respond, and the public believes their concerns aren't being addressed, they have every right to continue to be heard. <br><br>Question...is the MoundsView school board up for election this November? <p></p><i></i>

[shloppymcgee04]

light the lamp your attacking my character (saying im "borderline jv") is is a basic falicy in any debate....101 in a civil liberties at MV!!<br><br>even if i did play jv how does that effect what i see and hear....nitti is the head coach at moundsview.....do you honestly think that the jv team is its own seperate entity??? nitti dictates all of moundsviews hs hockey!!<br><br>nope offsides guy....i could skate...i could skate with the best, but other parts of my game were inadiquate for top level play.....so keep on trying with the whole "peg shloppy" buisness!<br><br>ps im not disgruntled at all about not seeing the ice time i hoped for!! so agian keep trying!<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[diskman]

I think the MV school board has more important things to worry about than this hockey coach mess. I know it is important to everyone posting here, but it is probably nothing more than a little stone in their shoe to them. They are trying to keep buildings open, teachers from being cut, and balance a budget. Honestly, I would be willing to bet that none of them are losing a lot of sleep over this. <p></p><i></i>

[Light The Lamp Guy]

shloppy revert back to your posts and then examine if possibly you were the one attacking character. All i'm saying is knowing who you are now you misrepresented your actual role and knowledge of the situation. You were never in the room with us vs wbl, hill etc. never on the bench vs roseville, hastings, to see what was going on.I don't think your remarks are valid and I stand behind mine. And I would disagree that we were one entity once the season started. we had very little contact with the jv except to cheer for you before our games. Was directed by Nick but still run separetly to a point.we didn't even practice together.Just my opinion.I'm sorry it didn't work out for you and you have such bad memories. I don't.Could you have anything to do over your situation or was it all coach nitti's fault? <p></p><i></i>

[OFFSIDES GUY]

There is no doubt that the things you mentioned are more important in the large picture. Doesn't make this issue any less important to the people involved. Many of us have to multi task at work all day long. It's part of the job. No excuse to be incompetent in one area because you happen to work on larger projects. Let's sincerely hope they do better in the other areas than they have in this mess or otherwise they'll be no schools open, no teachers left and millions of dollars in the hole. Judging from their handling of the small issues I shudder to think how they could even possibly think of managing something bigger. Scary. <p></p><i></i>

[Forest Dump]

January 8 - elections in Nov - chairman is retiring (thank goodness-attorney-thinks you know what doesn't stink) - 2 of the encumbents are running for re-election and 2 new people are also running for those 2 spots - 4 people in total running - a carrier pigeon told me that there is a good possibility BSIII is running as a write-in(long shot - tough road- but not impossible with his name recognition and strong support)<br><br>Discman - I disagree, they are tossing and turning somewhat over this mess. I am sure they mandated the letter to Nick on Aug 2, explaining, in writing, why he was not-renewed.<br>Almost unprecedented move - they didn't have to do it, but extreme pressure from community dictated a move of some sort.<br><br>Offsides Guy and Lightthelamp- glad to see someone putting whathisname "sloppymagee04" in his place. Probably wouldn't know him if he was the only one on the ice. Sounds like sour, sour, sour....... grapes to me from the slopman. Looks to me like he also didn't excel in the classroom either. <p></p><i></i>

[Dusey]

I just did a quick review of some of the other posting subjects on this board, to see how many posts have been made per topic.<br><br>This topic is certainly in the top 10.<br><br>Guess someone cares and there is plenty of interest. <p></p><i></i>

[shloppymcgee04]

i don't blame the way my MV hockey career went on nitti......not 1%.....in fact in my previous post i wrote....<br><br>"other parts of my game were inadiquate for top level play"<br><br>i realize that i was not a high impact player, and i was comfortable where i played, JV....i couldn't put pucks past goalies if my life depended on it.....so i don't blame nitti for that....im not bitter with the man for the way he treated me...i liked nitti and im pretty sure he liked me!!<br><br>all ive read from you is that nitti believed in you and that i wasn't there so i couldn't possibly know what he was coaching.....so can you give us some stats or stories on how nitti actually changed a game for the better by some brilliant coaching stradegy??? he leaned on his high power first line and thats it.... <br><br>i can see what lines are played and at what time.....from the bench or in the crowd....so just because i wasn't in the locker room doesn't mean that i don't see what hes doing as a coach! he does like to screw his jv team with only 1hr of practice at a time.......just dumb if your looking for a program with deapth and future!! <p></p><i></i>

[Light The Lamp Guy]

I don't want to get in a pissing contest here. I never had a problem with you nor you with me as I believe you would agree when we talk. You would have to admit your tone has changed since your initial post. Now it is more of an opinion and you are entitled to that. In post 1 you said the man has no idea what he's doing- I would dispute that. You also said he has no experience in the game at all- I would argue that. You took a shot at him being a parking lot attendant- that I believe was a low blow that was uncalled for. I just got off work but will answer you tomorrow on specific incidents of great coaching while I played for him ( 2003 sectional game vs a better hill- murray team at Aldrich ). I know you didn't bother to tryout after that year on jv but what bothers me is the smack that was talked by some junior gold players like it was nitti's fault. You have to honestly admit some of you wern't that good, for sure not as commited off ice ( I think you know what I mean) and your decisions had an impact how hs hockey went for you. That's all i'm saying.<br> <br> <p></p><i></i>

[Gphrhcky22]

Lightthelampguy: You are dead on about the bs schloppy is peddling. <br><br>Second guessing is a great part of sports. Name a coach that doesn't lean on his first line. I have coached against MV with a very good program in the section and the MV team scared us more than others. Not because they were the most talented but because they worked their butts off. Nitti should get some type of award for getting these spoiled shoreview pukes to work harder than nearly every team they faced off against. As a coaching peer, I respect Nick for that alone. <br><br>Does anyone know who they are interviewing for the job? I heard from a respectable source that Bobby Dustin has an interview. Any other info. <p></p><i></i>

[Hockeybutt]

Whitey Schwartzbauer has an interview ..anyone know who else is going in ! Who is interviewing them the parents <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

[Dusey]

I'm sure that "SEXWAX" will have her input "duly noted" in the selection process.<br><br>With a moniker like that, I wonder what she has on her mind regarding the new coach.<br><br>Don't print that: Someone in the community has filed a "discrimination complaint" against the school on behalf of Nick Nitti. Basis - Booster club funds can be used to subsidize all other sports staffs, EXCEPT MEN'S HOCKEY". <br><br>Don't bet on it going anywhere with that administration and staff. They go through a lot of brooms, sweeping stuff under the carpet.<br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[wallythebeerman]

I have been watching from afar and read a lot of posts, thought it was time to jump in.<br><br>I am happy for Mr. Nitti and his new career. I wish him much success. <br><br>Can't believe he landed on his feet so quickly.<br><br>That probably did not surprise his close associates though.<br><br>I am real concerned about the program at Mounds View.<br><br>Was going along real well, than wack, down the tubes.<br><br>Hope MV can rebound as quick as Mr. Nitti.<br><br>How is the AD over there? Fairly Astute ! <p></p><i></i>

[Thruthis]

Look's pretty clear that Nitti was not removed for his coaching. <p></p><i></i>

[SB24]

IF HE IS SUCH A GOOD COACH THEN WHY IS HE ONLY "MAYBE" GOING TO BE THE WBL ASSISTANT COACH? IF HE IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO BE WBL'S ASSISTANT THEN HOW CAN U EXPECT HIM TO BE GOOD ENOUGH TO BEAT THEM. IF HE'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH THEN HE SHOULD BE FIRED OR IS IT OK TO SAY "WBL IS JUST TOO GOOD, WE ARE JUST HAPPY TO KEEP IT CLOSE". <p></p><i></i>

[OFFSIDES GUY]

What was that post? You don't know what you're talking about. He's already been named a varsity assistant coach. Get back to your porno channel and stay out of hockey business. <p></p><i></i>

[oceans13]

Keep it close? Nitti never kept it close when it came to WBL..if you can't beat em, join em. White Bears 2 biggest wins in terms of margin of victory happened on Nittis watch against the beloved MV.<br><br>WBL 7 MV 0<br>WBL 8 MV 3<br><br>Heck, WBL only beat Irondale 4-2 in a section game. What is Nitti going to coach for WBL, Damage control? Seems the WBL coach could have made a much better decision than that. I really don't see the benefit for WBL players.<br><br>Did MV ever win a section game under Nitti? <br>Its not as if Elvis is leaving the building.<br><br>I'm not a Nitti hater, he sounds like a nice guy, but I am a realist. What exactly is he going to bring to WBL? <p></p><i></i>

[SB24]

porno channel???? I KNOW IT MAKES U SAD WHEN PEOPLE DONT TALK NICE ABOUT YOUR BOY FRIEND NITTI BUT U HAVE TO BE KIDDING! YOUR TELLING ME THAT BECAUSE HE IS THE ASSISTANT COACH AT WBL THAT MEANS HE SHOULD BE THE HEAD COACH AT MV? I DONT KNOW HOW THAT WORK? <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p>Play another sport if ya dont got what it takes to DangleMcFangle.</p><i></i>

[kenny06]

SB24-- offsidesguy was just responding to your statement "IF HE IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO BE WBL'S ASSISTANT ". then you come back with "YOUR TELLING ME THAT BECAUSE HE IS THE ASSISTANT COACH AT WBL THAT MEANS HE SHOULD BE THE HEAD COACH AT MV?" please, if you are going to make statements, stand by them and if you are wrong, you are wrong. rambling statements do not support anything. and yes, MV loses big to WBL. please let me know when MV has beaten WBL and under what coach? i am sure MV has had this problem with WBL for a long time, even before Nitti. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p074.ezboard.com/bmnhs.showUserP ... kenny06</A> at: 8/24/05 7:50 am<br></i>