Simply sad..

[hunting247]

Final 54 16's
Skaters:
1A/AA 11 kids
7A/AA 9 kids
2A/AA 7 kids
3A/AA 7 kids
8A/AA 6 kids
6A/AA 7 kids
4A/AA 5 kids
5A/AA 2 kidx

Now here's the huge kicker
5A/AA outshot 7A/AA 44-20!!!!!! 1-2 L
5A/AA outshot 8A/AA 46-25!!!!!! 6-3 W
The shots were 25 -28 in a 2-1 win against 2A/AA!!

Scouts and D-1 coaches actually called and apologized to kids.

math must be hard

[MrBoDangles]

Final 54 16's
Skaters:
1A/AA 11 kids
7A/AA 9 kids
2A/AA 7 kids
3A/AA 7 kids
8A/AA 6 kids
6A/AA 7 kids
4A/AA 5 kids
5A/AA 2 kidx

Now here's the huge kicker
5A/AA outshot 7A/AA 44-20!!!!!! 1-2 L
5A/AA outshot 8A/AA 46-25!!!!!! 6-3 W
The shots were 25 -28 in a 2-1 win against 2A/AA!!

Scouts and D-1 coaches actually called and apologized to kids.

math must be hard

It says skaters* above the totals.. (Comprehension)

You must be a member of the old guard?

[hunting247]

Final 54 16's
Skaters:
1A/AA 11 kids
7A/AA 9 kids
2A/AA 7 kids
3A/AA 7 kids
8A/AA 6 kids
6A/AA 7 kids
4A/AA 5 kids
5A/AA 2 kidx

Now here's the huge kicker
5A/AA outshot 7A/AA 44-20!!!!!! 1-2 L
5A/AA outshot 8A/AA 46-25!!!!!! 6-3 W
The shots were 25 -28 in a 2-1 win against 2A/AA!!

Scouts and D-1 coaches actually called and apologized to kids.

math must be hard

It says skaters* above the totals.. (Comprehension)

You must be a member of the old guard?

I am actually in complete agreement with the section 5 picks from what I saw

[MrBoDangles]

math must be hard

It says skaters* above the totals.. (Comprehension)

You must be a member of the old guard?

I am actually in complete agreement with the section 5 pick from what I saw

But your comprehension is no good...

Impossible with 9 skaters to 1 and being outshot 44 to 20..

8AA/A was outshot 46 -25, lost all three games and ended up with six skaters..

You watched all three games like an evaluator?

[zamboniexhaustinhaler]

Love the spring crappie bite on Tonka. Found 'em in 2 to 3 feet of water near a dock complex in the lower lake.

1/32 oz. jig with a small crappie minnow; black or chartreuse were the colors of choice. Caught about 40 and kept a few for dinner.

Now that's how we roll in Tonkaville.

Piss on hockey; this is what living in Minnesota is all about

[WestMetro]

Mr BD

Don't I recall right that Blaine bantams were ranked 2nd only to Mtka, and in fact they beat Tonka once? What happened to those kids during tryouts?

[BP]

The 16 evaluation committee has ZERO HS Coaches.

[MrBoDangles]

Mr BD

Don't I recall right that Blaine bantams were ranked 2nd only to Mtka, and in fact they beat Tonka once? What happened to those kids during tryouts?

None of the best 2000 borns on the bantam team made the 54.

[hunting247]

It says skaters* above the totals.. (Comprehension)

You must be a member of the old guard?

I am actually in complete agreement with the section 5 pick from what I saw

But your comprehension is no good...

Impossible with 9 skaters to 1 and being outshot 44 to 20..

8AA/A was outshot 46 -25, lost all three games and ended up with six skaters..

You watched all three games like an evaluator?

Yes I did, See your problem is you are looking at the games as if they actually mean something where as being in a game and "outshooting" your opponent again means nothing. Players are graded individually and not on a team level. sorry but section 5 players fell short of the cut

[HockeyTalk18]

Hunting -
Yes I did, See your problem is you are looking at the games as if they actually mean something where as being in a game and "outshooting" your opponent again means nothing. Players are graded individually and not on a team level. sorry but section 5 players fell short of the cut


I don't have a player in the 16/17's, but your statement is very interesting, not sure if you're saying yes you did watch all 3 games, or yes you're an evaluator also. Are you really saying the actual outcome of plays during a game mean nothing for valuation of those players making them? Players making good hockey plays that result in shots or goals and playing with others well VS Individual plays that don't result in shots or goals and not playing well with others mean more? Please explain why you are saying you don't feel like players should be graded on Team play? and should only be graded for Ind. play. It's no wonder why some of these players/families encourage this type of play, when did Hockey turn into this type of thinking, used to be the ultimate team game. not anymore?

[4on5again]

IF the players are evaluated individually, the odds are still low that section 5 only sends one skater to the 54.
There should be individual feedback, or better yet straight up publish a ranking after the festivals. I suspect they come in with ranking at the start. These are big boys they can handle it. More transparency.

[WestMetro]

Nowhere near as close to situation as others, but very hard to understand why I don't see a single Blaine name on the 16 list, when blaine was rated in the top five and in some polls 2nd best statewide bantam team which split with no. 1 Tonka

[nobody]

Hunting -
Yes I did, See your problem is you are looking at the games as if they actually mean something where as being in a game and "outshooting" your opponent again means nothing. Players are graded individually and not on a team level. sorry but section 5 players fell short of the cut


I don't have a player in the 16/17's, but your statement is very interesting, not sure if you're saying yes you did watch all 3 games, or yes you're an evaluator also. Are you really saying the actual outcome of plays during a game mean nothing for valuation of those players making them? Players making good hockey plays that result in shots or goals and playing with others well VS Individual plays that don't result in shots or goals and not playing well with others mean more? Please explain why you are saying you don't feel like players should be graded on Team play? and should only be graded for Ind. play. It's no wonder why some of these players/families encourage this type of play, when did Hockey turn into this type of thinking, used to be the ultimate team game. not anymore?

The ability to adapt and play as a team rapidly is a hockey skill....

[zamboniexhaustinhaler]

IF the players are evaluated individually, the odds are still low that section 5 only sends one skater to the 54.
There should be individual feedback, or better yet straight up publish a ranking after the festivals. I suspect they come in with ranking at the start. These are big boys they can handle it. More transparency.

Ding, ding, we have a winner !

I'll never be convinced many decisions aren't already made before the first puck drops.

Always been that way, always will.

[Mite-dad]

IF the players are evaluated individually, the odds are still low that section 5 only sends one skater to the 54.
There should be individual feedback, or better yet straight up publish a ranking after the festivals. I suspect they come in with ranking at the start. These are big boys they can handle it. More transparency.

Ding, ding, we have a winner !

I'll never be convinced many decisions aren't already made before the first puck drops.

Always been that way, always will.

It'd be nice if we were given a list beforehand so we could avoid flushing money down the toilet.

[Mnhockeys]

IF the players are evaluated individually, the odds are still low that section 5 only sends one skater to the 54.
There should be individual feedback, or better yet straight up publish a ranking after the festivals. I suspect they come in with ranking at the start. These are big boys they can handle it. More transparency.

Give a ranking after the cuts would be a great idea, and give out the reason with the following multiple choices would be helpful too -

- not from an elite association
- not from a MNxxxx summer team
- have not attended my skating school
- would unlikely attend my hockey program
- taller than me at 15/16 yrs
- shorter than my 10 yrs
- dad has not bought me a beer
- unknown last name
- .....

Happy Wednesday!

[Defensive Zone]

IF the players are evaluated individually, the odds are still low that section 5 only sends one skater to the 54.
There should be individual feedback, or better yet straight up publish a ranking after the festivals. I suspect they come in with ranking at the start. These are big boys they can handle it. More transparency.

Ding, ding, we have a winner !

I'll never be convinced many decisions aren't already made before the first puck drops.

Always been that way, always will.

I have to agree! It makes no sense (some players) on who makes the cut and who does not. My guess of what I have seen throughout the years is there has to be a discussion (a predetermined list) on who will/should make the 54 roster(s). My opinion, not the best players are moving forward. Disappointing to put it lightly.

[Bluewhitefan]

There should be individual feedback, or better yet straight up publish a ranking after the festivals. I suspect they come in with ranking at the start. These are big boys they can handle it. More transparency.

My guess is that "feedback" or rankings would just annoy people even more. I'm very fortunate that my kid is done with this process. He was a strong PWA, BA player whose best asset was his speed. I viewed him as having a decent shot at the final 54, but not a lock by any means. We were told to give the fine D6 evaluators a self-addressed stamped envelope if we wanted feedback. When we got the evaluation form, the only thing written on it was: "Need to work on speed" scrawled out in pencil. I was not delusional, he had plenty of flaws, but speed was not one of them.

In short, this process has always been a joke. Save your money.

[4on5again]

I think we all know there is limits to the process and time is one of them, but publishing ranking is easy. Everyone knows where they stand and/or stood. Being transparent also forces you to have to rank the section manager's kid too, and not hide behind the old timers with clip boards.

[MrBoDangles]

IF the players are evaluated individually, the odds are still low that section 5 only sends one skater to the 54.
There should be individual feedback, or better yet straight up publish a ranking after the festivals. I suspect they come in with ranking at the start. These are big boys they can handle it. More transparency.

Give a ranking after the cuts would be a great idea, and give out the reason with the following multiple choices would be helpful too -

- not from an elite association
- not from a MNxxxx summer team
- have not attended my skating school
- would unlikely attend my hockey program
- taller than me at 15/16 yrs
- shorter than my 10 yrs
- dad has not bought me a beer
- unknown last name
- .....

Happy Wednesday!

This is outstanding!

They should offer an arse kissing 101 class through Minnesota Hockey... I'm actually terrible with that stuff...

[zamboniexhaustinhaler]

IF the players are evaluated individually, the odds are still low that section 5 only sends one skater to the 54.
There should be individual feedback, or better yet straight up publish a ranking after the festivals. I suspect they come in with ranking at the start. These are big boys they can handle it. More transparency.

Ding, ding, we have a winner !

I'll never be convinced many decisions aren't already made before the first puck drops.

Always been that way, always will.

It'd be nice if we were given a list beforehand so we could avoid flushing money down the toilet.

It's how USA Hockey et al help fund their teams. Just like a junior team's open tryout, is basically used to help fund their travel, etc.

But as long as there are people willing to write the checks, there will be folks more than happy to take them.

[MrBoDangles]

I am actually in complete agreement with the section 5 pick from what I saw

But your comprehension is no good...

Impossible with 9 skaters to 1 and being outshot 44 to 20..

8AA/A was outshot 46 -25, lost all three games and ended up with six skaters..

You watched all three games like an evaluator?

Yes I did, See your problem is you are looking at the games as if they actually mean something where as being in a game and "outshooting" your opponent again means nothing. Players are graded individually and not on a team level. sorry but section 5 players fell short of the cut

I didn't see this post..

You're talking the odds of the powerball here.. One, or two of the lines had them (the teams they outshot badly) pinned in their zone most of the time.. The kids were graded well while being pinned? I'm sure the coaches saw where the talent was and matched up the lines accordingly

You could say that the teams that were outshot were top end heavy... But we know that's not the case.

22 kids to 1 and they outshot two of them soundly and had a great game with another. 2-1 on the weekend..

Reefer Madness

[Nuts&Bolts]

It truly is the same crap and politics every year. The only thing this thread needs is something like this: Section 8 got waxed but they 'easily' could have beat Section 5. Or Section 5 just played a good solid game with no standouts but Section 8 had more skilled individual players that caught the attention of the evaluators (as they were chasing the puck trying to break it out of there zone?). Seriously people don't waste your money on this fundraiser.

[Mnhockeys]

IF the players are evaluated individually, the odds are still low that section 5 only sends one skater to the 54.
There should be individual feedback, or better yet straight up publish a ranking after the festivals. I suspect they come in with ranking at the start. These are big boys they can handle it. More transparency.

Give a ranking after the cuts would be a great idea, and give out the reason with the following multiple choices would be helpful too -

- not from an elite association
- not from a MNxxxx summer team
- have not attended my skating school
- would unlikely attend my hockey program
- taller than me at 15/16 yrs
- shorter than my 10 yrs
- dad has not bought me a beer
- unknown last name
- .....

Happy Wednesday!

This is outstanding!

They should offer an arse kissing 101 class through Minnesota Hockey... I'm actually terrible with that stuff...

Sounds funny ... actually had some laugh when I scribed out a much longer list when I sit in my office. Did not send my kids to the tryouts this year, all due to some the stupid and bad prievious year's experience.

The point is that they made early round tryouts so expensive and whoever made the decisions to cut or keep some players are crap-shot mischiefs. Some of the selections from last year was just down-to-earth stupidity.

But what could you do? Laugh off and move on.

[Mnhockeys]

It truly is the same crap and politics every year. The only thing this thread needs is something like this: Section 8 got waxed but they 'easily' could have beat Section 5. Or Section 5 just played a good solid game with no standouts but Section 8 had more skilled individual players that caught the attention of the evaluators (as they were chasing the puck trying to break it out of there zone?). Seriously people don't waste your money on this fundraiser.

Maybe the coaches on the bench to blame, to create a game like this?