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8AA
EliotT:
Good luck with that. While we are at, why don't we:
1) Get the Lakeville's out of 1AA and have a true "Southern MN presence"
2) Rebalance 2AA and 3AA
3) Move Cretin to 3AA
4) Add Breck to 6AA
5) Put Hermantown in 7AA
6) Put Elk River, Buffalo, STMA, and Rogers in 9AA
7) Put all the privates in 10AA with Edina (Ha Ha!)
8 ) Seed all teams
Good luck with that. While we are at, why don't we:
1) Get the Lakeville's out of 1AA and have a true "Southern MN presence"
2) Rebalance 2AA and 3AA
3) Move Cretin to 3AA
4) Add Breck to 6AA
5) Put Hermantown in 7AA
6) Put Elk River, Buffalo, STMA, and Rogers in 9AA
7) Put all the privates in 10AA with Edina (Ha Ha!)
8 ) Seed all teams
Back to the topic at hand, I do think this is as wide open as last year was, and really there are up to 10 teams that can win this again. Like Bantams 3 years ago with this group. EP should not be pre-ordained. Very good team, but far from a juggernaut. Grand Rapids, Stillwater, Elk River, Wayzata, Holy Family and possibly Edina and St. Thomas should all be in the discussion as well. Lakeville South also if they can get the goaltending they think they have. Minnetonka and Centennial still a year away. Any team with strong tending and D can win this. How far will Benilde fall after last year's great team?
I'll take GR EP Stillwater you can have the field. Though if you allow me a dark horse it will be ER. One of those squads is your winner. Far from the 10 you mention.redtundra wrote:Back to the topic at hand, I do think this is as wide open as last year was, and really there are up to 10 teams that can win this again. Like Bantams 3 years ago with this group. EP should not be pre-ordained. Very good team, but far from a juggernaut. Grand Rapids, Stillwater, Elk River, Wayzata, Holy Family and possibly Edina and St. Thomas should all be in the discussion as well. Lakeville South also if they can get the goaltending they think they have. Minnetonka and Centennial still a year away. Any team with strong tending and D can win this. How far will Benilde fall after last year's great team?
edgeless2 wrote:I'll take GR EP Stillwater you can have the field. Though if you allow me a dark horse it will be ER. One of those squads is your winner. Far from the 10 you mention.redtundra wrote:Back to the topic at hand, I do think this is as wide open as last year was, and really there are up to 10 teams that can win this again. Like Bantams 3 years ago with this group. EP should not be pre-ordained. Very good team, but far from a juggernaut. Grand Rapids, Stillwater, Elk River, Wayzata, Holy Family and possibly Edina and St. Thomas should all be in the discussion as well. Lakeville South also if they can get the goaltending they think they have. Minnetonka and Centennial still a year away. Any team with strong tending and D can win this. How far will Benilde fall after last year's great team?
To be fair he mentioned 5. Added 2 dark horses to your 1. Mentioned 2 that are a year away and 1 that is a player away.
It's nice too see 7AA has 2 horses in the preseason chatter. I'm surprised Duluth East isn't in the conversation this year. I know that each of the last 2 years East brought 4 bantams up early to play high school and the bantams thusly have been nonexistent the last few years. East will always and forever be a tough out.elliott70 wrote:edgeless2 wrote:I'll take GR EP Stillwater you can have the field. Though if you allow me a dark horse it will be ER. One of those squads is your winner. Far from the 10 you mention.redtundra wrote:Back to the topic at hand, I do think this is as wide open as last year was, and really there are up to 10 teams that can win this again. Like Bantams 3 years ago with this group. EP should not be pre-ordained. Very good team, but far from a juggernaut. Grand Rapids, Stillwater, Elk River, Wayzata, Holy Family and possibly Edina and St. Thomas should all be in the discussion as well. Lakeville South also if they can get the goaltending they think they have. Minnetonka and Centennial still a year away. Any team with strong tending and D can win this. How far will Benilde fall after last year's great team?
To be fair he mentioned 5. Added 2 dark horses to your 1. Mentioned 2 that are a year away and 1 that is a player away.
7AA is a gauntlet to get through. Forget about thinking of a state appearance.....getting through this section is brutal by itself. It's always fun though.....the competition! I love it
Would agree EP, Rapids and Stillwater odds on favorites this year. But the only one of those 3 who is almost guaranteed of making it to State is Stillwater. The other 2 will have to face at least one other top 5 team in the State in sections. Ignorant question: What is the actual process regarding section seeding? Seems that may play a bigger role this year. Best goalie won't hurt either. And which team can survive going to their 2nd goalie in case of injury/illness if need be?
edgeless2 wrote:I'll take GR EP Stillwater you can have the field. Though if you allow me a dark horse it will be ER. One of those squads is your winner. Far from the 10 you mention.redtundra wrote:Back to the topic at hand, I do think this is as wide open as last year was, and really there are up to 10 teams that can win this again. Like Bantams 3 years ago with this group. EP should not be pre-ordained. Very good team, but far from a juggernaut. Grand Rapids, Stillwater, Elk River, Wayzata, Holy Family and possibly Edina and St. Thomas should all be in the discussion as well. Lakeville South also if they can get the goaltending they think they have. Minnetonka and Centennial still a year away. Any team with strong tending and D can win this. How far will Benilde fall after last year's great team?
redtundra wrote:Would agree EP, Rapids and Stillwater odds on favorites this year. But the only one of those 3 who is almost guaranteed of making it to State is Stillwater. The other 2 will have to face at least one other top 5 team in the State in sections. Ignorant question: What is the actual process regarding section seeding? Seems that may play a bigger role this year. Best goalie won't hurt either. And which team can survive going to their 2nd goalie in case of injury/illness if need be?
edgeless2 wrote:I'll take GR EP Stillwater you can have the field. Though if you allow me a dark horse it will be ER. One of those squads is your winner. Far from the 10 you mention.redtundra wrote:Back to the topic at hand, I do think this is as wide open as last year was, and really there are up to 10 teams that can win this again. Like Bantams 3 years ago with this group. EP should not be pre-ordained. Very good team, but far from a juggernaut. Grand Rapids, Stillwater, Elk River, Wayzata, Holy Family and possibly Edina and St. Thomas should all be in the discussion as well. Lakeville South also if they can get the goaltending they think they have. Minnetonka and Centennial still a year away. Any team with strong tending and D can win this. How far will Benilde fall after last year's great team?
Coaches have a meeting and they all rank their teams in order. Then the add up the numbers. Team with lowest is 1 seed and so on.
Thanks BP. Curious in those ranking meetings if some coaches have more influence than others and how that plays out. Really doesn't matter so much if you are flipping 2 and 3, but who get's 1 (between 1 and 2) and who get's 4 (between 3 and 4) must be pretty contentious some years... I assume strength of schedule can trump total wins only to a point.
BP wrote:redtundra wrote:Would agree EP, Rapids and Stillwater odds on favorites this year. But the only one of those 3 who is almost guaranteed of making it to State is Stillwater. The other 2 will have to face at least one other top 5 team in the State in sections. Ignorant question: What is the actual process regarding section seeding? Seems that may play a bigger role this year. Best goalie won't hurt either. And which team can survive going to their 2nd goalie in case of injury/illness if need be?
edgeless2 wrote: I'll take GR EP Stillwater you can have the field. Though if you allow me a dark horse it will be ER. One of those squads is your winner. Far from the 10 you mention.
Coaches have a meeting and they all rank their teams in order. Then the add up the numbers. Team with lowest is 1 seed and so on.
No one coaches vote isn't anymore than the next. Most sections, they are all in a room together. Outstate teams usually have a conference call.redtundra wrote:Thanks BP. Curious in those ranking meetings if some coaches have more influence than others and how that plays out. Really doesn't matter so much if you are flipping 2 and 3, but who get's 1 (between 1 and 2) and who get's 4 (between 3 and 4) must be pretty contentious some years... I assume strength of schedule can trump total wins only to a point.
BP wrote:redtundra wrote:Would agree EP, Rapids and Stillwater odds on favorites this year. But the only one of those 3 who is almost guaranteed of making it to State is Stillwater. The other 2 will have to face at least one other top 5 team in the State in sections. Ignorant question: What is the actual process regarding section seeding? Seems that may play a bigger role this year. Best goalie won't hurt either. And which team can survive going to their 2nd goalie in case of injury/illness if need be?
Coaches have a meeting and they all rank their teams in order. Then the add up the numbers. Team with lowest is 1 seed and so on.
The rankings first go by head to head of other teams in section, then record/strength of schedule. Gets dicey when teams all beat each other during the year or if teams split when they play each other twice. For the most part, it works out the way it should and is pretty straight forward.
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I gave a top ten on the podcast we recorded today, but the print version should come out next week, after the first day of practice--I hold off just in case someone doesn't return from juniors. (The podcast should be up tonight.)WestMetro wrote:Karl, when are we going to see your preseason rankings?
Is the list of early departs complete, or might be a surprise or two next week?