Duluth East vs Elk River @Duluth

[elliott70]

Can ER prove themselves?
This is possibly the 7AA final.
Most believe it will be Andover but....

So what score will give ER hope (besides winning or tying)?
within 3? within 4? obviously 1 goal game, even a 2 goal game.

[hermantown2000]

Heard it is 3-0 in favor of the Hounds(according the Greyhounds Twitter page). A Elk River player has been reportedly ejected for having 3 penalties. Looks like the the Elks 7AA curse will live on another year.

[east hockey]

7-0 final. Expected a win but not that big. SOG 29-21 East. Elks got chippy near the end. Worth only scored once.

Lee

[O-townClown]

A Elk River player has been reportedly ejected for having 3 penalties.

I look forward to an explanation of this.

[kniven]

A Elk River player has been reportedly ejected for having 3 penalties.

I look forward to an explanation of this.

Call the ref, clown. Let me know what he says.

[elliott70]

A Elk River player has been reportedly ejected for having 3 penalties.

I look forward to an explanation of this.

Ejected for fighting

[karl(east)]

Strong result for East, obviously. ER came out and played its top line almost exclusively in the opening minutes and generated some good chances, but East started to take over from there, then popped two goals 17 seconds apart in the 2nd and never looked back. Parker Kleive continues to do very well in goal, and the team just logged its 3rd straight shutout--obviously they're not in the toughest part of their schedule, but that's still pretty solid. What I really like about this East team is that even if the top line has a relatively quiet game, there are other guys there to pick up the slack. Great as the one-loss 2012 team was, I think this group is a better-oiled machine at this point in the season than that one was.

I can't say I've ever seen one kid get four penalties at once or 7 minutes of penalty put on the clock before, but that happened in the 3rd when an ER player decide to jump an East player for no apparent reason. It was the culmination of a lot of junk over the course of the game, and the junk basically came from just one side. I don't know if it's because of this team's long history with East or what, but there was little semblance of control...including from the people behind the bench who should be the ones imposing control. The resulting power plays turned what had been a solid but well-fought win for East into a laugher.

[elliott70]

A Elk River player has been reportedly ejected for having 3 penalties.

I look forward to an explanation of this.

Ejected for fighting

[mnmouth]

. . . What I really like about this East team is that even if the top line has a relatively quiet game, there are other guys there to pick up the slack. Great as the one-loss 2012 team was, I think this group is a better-oiled machine at this point in the season than that one was.
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The current East team is a better team at this point than the 2012 team simply because they are improving as the season wears on. The 2012 team peaked at the 2011 state tournament. They pretty much flat-lined it in 2012, which was still good enough for a nearly perfect season and a Consolation trophy at State, but disappointing considering their talent and promise from a year before.

Today's game was very physical from start to finish. The Elks' strategy after East went quickly up 2-0 was to mug and punch any East kid behind the play, through the middle of the ice, in front of the ref - it didn't seem to matter. Bad strategy, but East took a beating and they got Cloquet on Monday.

[karl(east)]

. . . What I really like about this East team is that even if the top line has a relatively quiet game, there are other guys there to pick up the slack. Great as the one-loss 2012 team was, I think this group is a better-oiled machine at this point in the season than that one was.
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The current East team is a better team at this point than the 2012 team simply because they are improving as the season wears on. The 2012 team peaked at the 2011 state tournament. They pretty much flat-lined it in 2012, which was still good enough for a nearly perfect season and a Consolation trophy at State, but disappointing considering their talent and promise from a year before.

Today's game was very physical from start to finish. The Elks' strategy after East went quickly up 2-0 was to mug and punch any East kid behind the play, through the middle of the ice, in front of the ref - it didn't seem to matter. Bad strategy, but East took a beating and they got Cloquet on Monday.

I'd give the 2012 team a little more credit for their first half. They basically rolled through everyone in December despite some injuries to D-I players, and pounded teams ranked #2 two weeks in a row in the Schwan Cup win over Tonka and at Maple Grove the next week. Things started to flat-line after that...we remember the Hockey Day game, and they still had some 10-0 type games, but they also had a decent number of meh wins over teams that were nothing special, and the walk through sections felt perfunctory. The warning signs were there. I'm not getting that vibe from this group, though if the top teams all make it through I think this group will have tougher competition down the road. Cloquet on Monday will be interesting.

[kniven]

. . . What I really like about this East team is that even if the top line has a relatively quiet game, there are other guys there to pick up the slack. Great as the one-loss 2012 team was, I think this group is a better-oiled machine at this point in the season than that one was.
.

The current East team is a better team at this point than the 2012 team simply because they are improving as the season wears on. The 2012 team peaked at the 2011 state tournament. They pretty much flat-lined it in 2012, which was still good enough for a nearly perfect season and a Consolation trophy at State, but disappointing considering their talent and promise from a year before.

Today's game was very physical from start to finish. The Elks' strategy after East went quickly up 2-0 was to mug and punch any East kid behind the play, through the middle of the ice, in front of the ref - it didn't seem to matter. Bad strategy, but East took a beating and they got Cloquet on Monday.

I'd give the 2012 team a little more credit for their first half. They basically rolled through everyone in December despite some injuries to D-I players, and pounded teams ranked #2 two weeks in a row in the Schwan Cup win over Tonka and at Maple Grove the next week. Things started to flat-line after that...we remember the Hockey Day game, and they still had some 10-0 type games, but they also had a decent number of meh wins over teams that were nothing special, and the walk through sections felt perfunctory. The warning signs were there. I'm not getting that vibe from this group, though if the top teams all make it through I think this group will have tougher competition down the road. Cloquet on Monday will be interesting.

Yes it will

[O-townClown]

Call the ref, clown. Let me know what he says.

No thanks. I have no interest in speaking with someone that just makes up nonexistent rules.

[O-townClown]

Ejected for fighting

Mark, let's go with this. The game sheet shows my childhood's friend's son as one of two players that received a Game Misconduct.

One is for Fighting and one is for Roughing!! That's highly unusual.

The box score posted online is very confusing. First shows a Game Misconduct with the following: "Game Ejection - Game Misconduct with Zero Minutes" as a separate line item from the Major for Fighting.

Second shows "Roughing - Game Misconduct".

Sometimes the software dropdown fields aren't a perfect alignment for certain levels of play. Game Ejection is an expression used by Minnesota Hockey for the Midget/Junior Gold level. Basically an addendum to USA Hockey rules that offers a provision for something between a Misconduct and Game Misconduct (which doesn't exist in the USA Hockey Rule Book).

Does HS have that? I tried to find something on the HS Rule Book and this popped up. "A game misconduct penalty is an ejection under League policies."

https://www.mshsl.org/mshsl/publication ... Hockey.pdf

Can't locate an actual MSHSL Rule Book online.

I understand a Game for Fighting. Hard to imagine one for Roughing.

[mnmouth]

Ejected for fighting

. . . The game sheet shows my childhood's friend's son as one of two players that received a Game Misconduct.

One is for Fighting and one is for Roughing!! That's highly unusual. The box score posted online is very confusing. . .

I understand a Game for Fighting. Hard to imagine one for Roughing.

The game had a few confusing moments (and a few more interminable delays) regarding the roughing/fighting calls that definitely were not explained very well by the game announcer. Also, someone needs to explain to me why Elk River appeared to be called for icing while on the penalty kill early in the 3rd period. The Elks coaches went crazy, the crowd was left baffled and East scored just after the ensuing face-off in the ER end to make it 4-0.

[elliott70]

HS plays under National Federation rules as modified by the MSHSL.
The rules do allow for ejection after five penalties.
(Wisconsin uses 4 penalties).
Perhaps the refs were from Superior.

USAH does not allow for icing on the PK for youth teams.
Perhaps the refs were from Superior thinking they were doing a youth game.

[GPGT]

Not that it matters much in the long run. But anyone who was at the game. Can you elaborate a little more on the fight/ejection?

Did the east player fight back, did he hold his own, and who was it? All I'm getting is some elk player just punched an East player

[Usthockey13]

Not that it matters much in the long run. But anyone who was at the game. Can you elaborate a little more on the fight/ejection?

Did the east player fight back, did he hold his own, and who was it? All I'm getting is some elk player just punched an East player

The elk player had a penalty coming, then he tangled up with east player. Alittle shoving then the elk player started throwing punches. So he got the original 2 min- then the coincential penalties- the 5 for fighting and game misconduct. Also #22 for elk got a misconduct after East scores their 7th goal. Cross-checked an East player right in the face.