List of Elk River's misfortunes at AMSOIL and DECC

[HappyHockeyFan]

Let it go Happy, they were clearly a top 20 team.

I guess me and my rankings formula didn't see it that way. And another loss to a top twenty team proved it.

You are one strange troll Happy. Just accept that no one accepted your rankings as a serious measurement.

Elk River was 3-7 against top twenty teams IF you include the OT wins over EP and Hill-Murray who barely cracked the top twenty the last week of the season. If not, they were 1-9, hardly qualification for top twenty team.

[Schotzy]

I guess me and my rankings formula didn't see it that way. And another loss to a top twenty team proved it.

You are one strange troll Happy. Just accept that no one accepted your rankings as a serious measurement.

Elk River was 3-7 against top twenty teams IF you include the OT wins over EP and Hill-Murray who barely cracked the top twenty the last week of the season. If not, they were 1-9, hardly qualification for top twenty team.

Your argument changes my mind....not in the least bit. You apparently need the last word, so go ahead. Consider me unmoved.

[MWS coach]

ER over rated all season ... Just couldn't beat the big boys.

Let it go Happy, they were clearly a top 20 team.

I guess me and my rankings formula didn't see it that way. And another loss to a top twenty team proved it.

In my view that means your formula is off, interesting how all of the other "rankers" have them in top 20 but you don't, thus somehow you think you are right????

[MWS coach]

I just noticed it was an Hermantown guy that started this thread.

How ironic, seeing as Hermantown is the one northern team that keeps the Elks locked into 7AA play.

I will tip my hat to Elk River players and fans for playing in a tough section. They have the battle scars to prove the fact that 7AA is a tough section to get through. Despite the frustrations they are and have been a most formidable opponent in section 7AA and the Elks are a team which has made 7AA very reputable over the years.

Just win baby! A few wins along the way to eliminate "northern" team from trip to state would result in Elks being moved from 7AA, lets say 2015 & 2017 results in trips to state for the Elks, the outcry to move them from 7AA would be tremendous. Alas they have NOT won, thus the Amsoil curse continues! A move to 5AA at this point would not be advantageous, not with the Maple Grove juggernaut the next couple of years in that section, if Andover added as well and Blaine remains in the section, 5AA in 19-20 season could be one of the toughest regions around.

[HappyHockeyFan]

Let it go Happy, they were clearly a top 20 team.

I guess me and my rankings formula didn't see it that way. And another loss to a top twenty team proved it.

In my view that means your formula is off, interesting how all of the other "rankers" have them in top 20 but you don't, thus somehow you think you are right????

Then explain to me how my formula has my other teams ranked very closely to the other polls? So, its accurate for the other 19 teams but not Elk River, doesn't make sense? My formula isnt the problem its human error, as in peoples opinion about a team, what they want a team to be but isnt. My formula sticks to the facts and gets it right, with a scientific formula you cannot deny the results, but human opinion is always up for debate. Criticize all you want, its what poster's do best on here, but my formula works and correctly predicted that Elk River didnt belong in the top twenty.

[mulefarm]

Happy, I like your ratings!

[HappyHockeyFan]

Happy, I like your ratings!

HaHa!! Thanks man! I knew at least one person was on my side.

[MWS coach]

I guess me and my rankings formula didn't see it that way. And another loss to a top twenty team proved it.

In my view that means your formula is off, interesting how all of the other "rankers" have them in top 20 but you don't, thus somehow you think you are right????

Then explain to me how my formula has my other teams ranked very closely to the other polls? So, its accurate for the other 19 teams but not Elk River, doesn't make sense? My formula isnt the problem its human error, as in peoples opinion about a team, what they want a team to be but isnt. My formula sticks to the facts and gets it right, with a scientific formula you cannot deny the results, but human opinion is always up for debate. Criticize all you want, its what poster's do best on here, but my formula works and correctly predicted that Elk River didnt belong in the top twenty.

Tomato tomato - Then why do the other polls have ER in the top 20? Science? What science, the game is played on the ice and none of the players are computers, so not sure what you are talking about science? Maybe they were and maybe they weren't, them losing semifinal game to a team rated higher shows nothing. does a computer ranking show probability? yes. Is the probability always accurate, nope. I bet you had Moorhead in front of STMA? Yes, in fact you did. Hmmmm how in the world did they ever end up beating the Spuds if Happy's scientific computer ranking said the spuds would win? Computers look at statics, people use logic. Both have their flaws.....

[Schotzy]

In my view that means your formula is off, interesting how all of the other "rankers" have them in top 20 but you don't, thus somehow you think you are right????

Then explain to me how my formula has my other teams ranked very closely to the other polls? So, its accurate for the other 19 teams but not Elk River, doesn't make sense? My formula isnt the problem its human error, as in peoples opinion about a team, what they want a team to be but isnt. My formula sticks to the facts and gets it right, with a scientific formula you cannot deny the results, but human opinion is always up for debate. Criticize all you want, its what poster's do best on here, but my formula works and correctly predicted that Elk River didnt belong in the top twenty.

Tomato tomato - Then why do the other polls have ER in the top 20? Science? What science, the game is played on the ice and none of the players are computers, so not sure what you are talking about science? Maybe they were and maybe they weren't, them losing semifinal game to a team rated higher shows nothing. does a computer ranking show probability? yes. Is the probability always accurate, nope. I bet you had Moorhead in front of STMA? Yes, in fact you did. Hmmmm how in the world did they ever end up beating the Spuds if Happy's scientific computer ranking said the spuds would win? Computers look at statics, people use logic. Both have their flaws.....

See that coach? We do agree on something.

[MWS coach]

Then explain to me how my formula has my other teams ranked very closely to the other polls? So, its accurate for the other 19 teams but not Elk River, doesn't make sense? My formula isnt the problem its human error, as in peoples opinion about a team, what they want a team to be but isnt. My formula sticks to the facts and gets it right, with a scientific formula you cannot deny the results, but human opinion is always up for debate. Criticize all you want, its what poster's do best on here, but my formula works and correctly predicted that Elk River didnt belong in the top twenty.

Tomato tomato - Then why do the other polls have ER in the top 20? Science? What science, the game is played on the ice and none of the players are computers, so not sure what you are talking about science? Maybe they were and maybe they weren't, them losing semifinal game to a team rated higher shows nothing. does a computer ranking show probability? yes. Is the probability always accurate, nope. I bet you had Moorhead in front of STMA? Yes, in fact you did. Hmmmm how in the world did they ever end up beating the Spuds if Happy's scientific computer ranking said the spuds would win? Computers look at statics, people use logic. Both have their flaws.....

See that coach? We do agree on something.

[mnjake28]

HappyHockeyFan's system in rankings is a joke. He has CEC rated top 10 at the end of the year. They get beat by GR last game of season and then bow out to a number #5 seed the first round of playoffs. A number #5 seed!

The last two games were not even close. They went down 3 - 0 in both games.

[Schotzy]

HappyHockeyFan's system in rankings is a joke. He has CEC rated top 10 at the end of the year. They get beat by GR last game of season and then bow out to a number #5 seed the first round of playoffs. A number #5 seed!

The last two games were not even close. They went down 3 - 0 in both games.

I don't want to get nit-picky here, and maybe I did not understand your point, but as someone who agrees that Happy's rankings are more for entertainment value than the legitimacy of some of the other rankings seen here or elsewhere, I felt I would jump in before Happy gets upset.

CEC was the #4 seed in 7AA. They lost to the #5 seed. Not that big of an upset.

In both games, they only lost to GR 4-3, but did get handled 6-4 by the Toppers in what was not even as close as the score reflects. I guess I do not understand what you mean by "They both went down 3 - 0 in both games", unless you mean they were down on the scoreboard at one point in the game by a score of three-to nothing, then I think I get it.

To the point, should they have been ranked in the top 10? No. But Happy will argue that his system is simply statistics, and does not rank emotion, or whatever that is supposed to mean. Just ask him about Elk River.....

[HappyHockeyFan]

HappyHockeyFan's system in rankings is a joke. He has CEC rated top 10 at the end of the year. They get beat by GR last game of season and then bow out to a number #5 seed the first round of playoffs. A number #5 seed!

The last two games were not even close. They went down 3 - 0 in both games.

Ok, first of all, Happy's not upset, buty thanks Shotzy, lol. Second of all if me and my rankings are gonna get ripped for the Cloquet loss then why doesnt Karl get ripped for his #5 Cretin-DH losing to his#11 Wayzata, his#7 White Bear Lake losing to his#20 Hill-Murray and his#9 Moorhead losing to his #19 STMA?? Thats how Karl had them ranked in his last rankings on 2/18, because there were upsets does that mean his rankings are a joke too?? C'mon, you don't have to agree with me on my rankings or the system I use but if your gonna say mine are a joke because of an upset then you need to use the same barometer for everyone, Karl, LPH, MN Hockey Hub, whoever. Your post is not credible. Oh, and Elk River was over-rated.