YHH Podcast for 2/3/18 feat. Mike Vorlicky

[hockey59]

LOL...since when is it trashing Jungels or Nevers to say they aren’t at the same level (as a senior) as Brodz or Jack Jensen (they aren’t and size certainly IS a factor in this comparison) OR the best junior in the State in Biondi OR one of the 3 best sophomores in the State (along with
LM & JP) in Joey Pierce? And my argument is not that they’re undeserving, on the contrary, they are, my argument is 3 Hornets WILL NOT be Mr Hockey Finalists

Now you are mixing words. You said they didn't have the skill set, which is independent of size and strength. Juniors and sophomores aren't eligible for Mr. Hockey, so I'm not sure why that matters when identifying 10 deserving players.

Jett Jungels is at 155 points and counting. Jack Jensen, who I think is incredibly good, is at 121. Bryce Brodzinski is at 163. I just don't see how he isn't in your discussion as a TOP TEN senior. I don't think anyone has said an Edina guy will win it. The comment was they could have 3 finalists. You say it is impossible. It's a weird stance. There could be three.

I never said it was impossible, just highly unlikely for 3 from the same team. But I’ll retract the skill set part of my comment relating to JJ & MN. It’s just an opinion, but one based on experience. If you think those two are at the same level as Brodz or Jensen, that’s your opinion, I simply disagree. Points matter but they aren’t everything when comparing players. And if all 3 Hornets are selected, well, I’ll certainly be happy to tip my cap to them

[YouthHockeyHub]

LOL...since when is it trashing Jungels or Nevers to say they aren’t at the same level (as a senior) as Brodz or Jack Jensen (they aren’t and size certainly IS a factor in this comparison) OR the best junior in the State in Biondi OR one of the 3 best sophomores in the State (along with
LM & JP) in Joey Pierce? And my argument is not that they’re undeserving, on the contrary, they are, my argument is 3 Hornets WILL NOT be Mr Hockey Finalists

Now you are mixing words. You said they didn't have the skill set, which is independent of size and strength. Juniors and sophomores aren't eligible for Mr. Hockey, so I'm not sure why that matters when identifying 10 deserving players.

Jett Jungels is at 155 points and counting. Jack Jensen, who I think is incredibly good, is at 121. Bryce Brodzinski is at 163. I just don't see how he isn't in your discussion as a TOP TEN senior. I don't think anyone has said an Edina guy will win it. The comment was they could have 3 finalists. You say it is impossible. It's a weird stance. There could be three.

I never said it was impossible, just highly unlikely for 3 from the same team. But I’ll retract the skill set part of my comment relating to JJ & MN. It’s just an opinion, but one based on experience. If you think those two are at the same level as Brodz or Jensen, that’s your opinion, I simply disagree. Points matter but they aren’t everything when comparing players. And if all 3 Hornets are selected, well, I’ll certainly be happy to tip my cap to them

Hey 59er,

"3 Edina players WILL NOT be finalists for Mr HockeyAt least one Andover player will be a finalist, so add Charlie Schoen and subtract either Jungels or Nevers. No doubt in my mind on Edina not having 3" -

Both "WILL NOT" and "No Doubt in my mind" suggest impossible. I will say this, it will be "impossible" for Anoka to make it to the X this year

[hockey59]

Now you are mixing words. You said they didn't have the skill set, which is independent of size and strength. Juniors and sophomores aren't eligible for Mr. Hockey, so I'm not sure why that matters when identifying 10 deserving players.

Jett Jungels is at 155 points and counting. Jack Jensen, who I think is incredibly good, is at 121. Bryce Brodzinski is at 163. I just don't see how he isn't in your discussion as a TOP TEN senior. I don't think anyone has said an Edina guy will win it. The comment was they could have 3 finalists. You say it is impossible. It's a weird stance. There could be three.

I never said it was impossible, just highly unlikely for 3 from the same team. But I’ll retract the skill set part of my comment relating to JJ & MN. It’s just an opinion, but one based on experience. If you think those two are at the same level as Brodz or Jensen, that’s your opinion, I simply disagree. Points matter but they aren’t everything when comparing players. And if all 3 Hornets are selected, well, I’ll certainly be happy to tip my cap to them

Hey 59er,

"3 Edina players WILL NOT be finalists for Mr HockeyAt least one Andover player will be a finalist, so add Charlie Schoen and subtract either Jungels or Nevers. No doubt in my mind on Edina not having 3" -

Both "WILL NOT" and "No Doubt in my mind" suggest impossible. I will say this, it will be "impossible" for Anoka to make it to the X this year

True regarding BIG A...but little A’s looking good in 7AATrouble with you Bloomington guys (Tony included as a transplant)...you guys get mesmerized by Edina...as if they were Charlize Theron driving figure 8’s in
Braemar’s parking lot wearing a Kelly Green bandanna in a shiny Porsche convertible But all kidding aside, Edina has a great team this year and if 3 are Finalists, all the kids will be deserving.

[O-townClown]

59, agree with all that. Plus, to win Mr. Hockey it helps to be considered an NHL prospect. I haven't heard anyone say an Edina guy will win it, but I think there is a possibility both Nevers & Jungels are seen as deserving forwards and that Vorlicky gets in the Top Ten as well. As usual, Malmquist likely to go underappreciated! That kid is one heck of a hockey player.

[hockey59]

Well, LM’s brother was a Mr Hockey Finalist, so at least the family has that covered.

[Slap Shot]

If you listen to what you want to listen to, you will hear me say Glock and Frits have no business winning. But the fact remains, i agree that these two are deserving. But what pains me a lot with awards, guys like Mueller, Daninger and Boynton with very similar numbers and a lot less in front of them get overlooked.

If these two are chosen, no qualms from me/YHH. If anyone knows me/YHH or our past with Glock ('15 Bantam AA state MVP, State Tourney Preview) and Fritsy ('16 Bantam POTY finalist the year Frisch won) knows they are great and well deserving.

However, many times high quality kids on lesser teams get no love. That was the purpose of the take. See my take in 2017 for Bauer Neudecker.

I understand you wanting to give credit to goaltenders that don’t get “love” but the facts are that Glockner and Fritsinger have much more demanding schedules than arguably any other goalie in the state. Champlin does not play a tough schedule. They have a few tough games. Just because of the defense these netminders have in front of them does not mean things are easier for them. Sure it helps but it’s not like they’re seeing 10-15 shots a game, Its probably more closer to the 20s and 30s and you have to remember these are coming from some of the states best forwards that have more velocity and better accuracy than anyone else. There is no doubt that Boynton is an elite goaltender but if you’re comparing who is in front of him then you should also factor in who is shooting on him. SOG aren’t always SOG. If that was the case then we might as well classify all of them as scoring chances. A shot from the blue line or from the sideboards is a routine save in my opinion. It’s the reactions that Glockner and Fritsinger have from in close point blank slot shots and the lateral movement to position themselves on a back door one timer that separate these two. I don’t think Mueller, Daninger, or Boynton are necessarily overlooked, many know these guys are in the mix, unfortunately they’re just not the top two.

The flaw with the Brimsek is the committee only nominating two goaltenders. They should move to five to give the recognition of others for being among the states best.

CP's current SOS is 53rd.

Blaine certainly has a strong SOS but Daninger is behind Glockner in all 3 major stats.

Buffalo's SOS is 42nd and Mueller is also also behind Glockner in all 3.

[hockey59]

Upon further review ( watching Edina beat Tonka in a cliffhanger & blow out EP tonight...I have changed my tune and now expect both Nevers & Jungels will be Mr Hockey Finalists...the only question now is whether Vorlicky also makes it (to make it 3 Hornet Finalists

[O-townClown]

Upon further review ( watching Edina beat Tonka in a cliffhanger & blow out EP tonight...I have changed my tune and now expect both Nevers & Jungels will be Mr Hockey Finalists...the only question now is whether Vorlicky also makes it (to make it 3 Hornet Finalists

Thanks. That's all we were saying. Deserving players. Malmquist tacked on 5 points tonight too.

[SquirtC'00]

Upon further review ( watching Edina beat Tonka in a cliffhanger & blow out EP tonight...I have changed my tune and now expect both Nevers & Jungels will be Mr Hockey Finalists...the only question now is whether Vorlicky also makes it (to make it 3 Hornet Finalists