State Tourney AA Seeding Predictions

[Sparlimb]

I wouldn’t be surprised to see something like this on Thursday

11 am. Edina vs Moorhead

1.30 Maple Grove vs LVS

6 Minnetonka Vs Hill or Gentry

8.30 Andover vs Cretin

Think Tonka wants to see Gentry after what happened on the Girls Side?

[raidergrad72]

Only two of the number one seeds in sections has made state on the AA side. I'm going to go out there and say that's a record for fewest. I have to guess the winner will be between Tonka, MG and Andover. Maybe this is the year for a good Moorhead team...

I would cheer for the Moorhead Spuds even though most in the northland....
"We hate Moorhead!"

You're just a lovable fuzzball aren't you Elliot?
Sent you a pm.

[elliott70]

What??? You mean the 218 hates the Metro, and they hate the good teams in the 218 too???

Who the bleep would they be happy to see win? No pleasing some folks, I guess.

Wrong.
We love Hill,
But we hate Moorhead.
Love Roseau.
Cheer for Rapids.
Don’t particularly care for Duluth East.

Egads! Is there an app you can download to keep track of all of that?

I'm going to start selling "651 HOCKEY" tee shirts.

Ian from the north, we use our brain.

[East Side Pioneer Guy]

Wrong.
We love Hill,
But we hate Moorhead.
Love Roseau.
Cheer for Rapids.
Don’t particularly care for Duluth East.

Sooo, still rockin' the flip phone then.

Egads! Is there an app you can download to keep track of all of that?

I'm going to start selling "651 HOCKEY" tee shirts.

Ian from the north, we use our brain.

[East Side Pioneer Guy]

Egads! Is there an app you can download to keep track of all of that?

I'm going to start selling "651 HOCKEY" tee shirts.

Ian from the north, we use our brain.

Sooo, still rockin' the flip phone then.

[Sparlimb]

Hill is 0-7 vs Tourney Teams this year. That's got to be a record...

Lakeville South won 5-4
Minnetonka won 5-0
Didn't play Cretin (lost twice to STA)
Maple Grove won 5-2
Edina won 2-1 and 2-1
Andover won 5-2
Moorhead won 4-2

[goldy313]

Dahms should have been ejected, throwing 5-6 haymakers shouldn’t end in coincidental minors. II don’t think his playing saves South. It just shows how bad the MSHSL officiating is. Not the individuals, but the system. Every year I think the officiating can’t get worse but every year it does !

[Nostalgic Nerd]

With 7 of 8 AA teams having punched their tickets thus far—and whoever wins between Gentry and Hill sure to not be seeded—what are people thinking seeds will be? Here’s what I’m thinking…

1. Tonka
2. Edina
3. MG
4. Andover
5. Lakeville South
- CDH
- Moorhead
- Gentry/Hill

I could see MG and Edina flipping places, but don’t think it really matters much.

What do others think?

I think you nailed it. MG and Edina could flip. Also see LS and CDH flipping depending on how much weight is put on the h2h. Personally I like CDH as 5 but that doesn’t mean much.

I think Moorhead will get the 5 seed.
The top 3 will not want to meet them in the first round.
And Andover handled them pretty well early in the season and would like to get them.
LS Cretin and Gentry have not done anything great to get the 5 seed.
Take it to the bank.

My bad. Moorhead with the 5 seed. That might make another Andover/Mhead qtr.

[BlueLineSpecial]

Hill is 0-7 vs Tourney Teams this year. That's got to be a record...

Lakeville South won 5-4
Minnetonka won 5-0
Didn't play Cretin (lost twice to STA)
Maple Grove won 5-2
Edina won 2-1 and 2-1
Andover won 5-2
Moorhead won 4-2

Crazy. And if you took it even a little further, 0-10 against any AA teams that made their section final. Regardless, some team's fanbase in the top 3 isn't going to be happy to draw the Hill card Thursday at the X

[BlueLineSpecial]

Official:

11AM
#2 Maple Grove v Cretin

1PM
#3 Edina v Moorhead

6PM
#1 Minnetonka v Hill Murray

8PM
#4 Andover v #5 Lakeville South

[slacsap]

The "random draw" strikes again!! Those pairings look eerily similar to what they would look like if all eight teams were seeded. Moorhead would be 6, Cretin 7 and Hill 8. Why doesn't the MSHSL spare us all teh BS and seed all eight teams?

[WestMetro]

MG jumps over Edina , flip flop from LPH poll

LVS jumps over CDH. Flip flip flop from LPH poll
( and Tate Pritchard is injured , out of the Trny but thankfully doing ok after arm surgery )

[slacsap]

I love the fact that the pairings are up on here before they are on the MSHSL site.

[BlueLineSpecial]

The "random draw" strikes again!! Those pairings look eerily similar to what they would look like if all eight teams were seeded. Moorhead would be 6, Cretin 7 and Hill 8. Why doesn't the MSHSL spare us all teh BS and seed all eight teams?

Was literally about to write this. I'd like to go back to the first year they started seeding 1-5 with 6-8 being a random draw, and see how many times the #8 seed would have been the #8 if there was a full seeding. I swear it feels like literally every year.

[East Side Pioneer Guy]

The "random draw" strikes again!! Those pairings look eerily similar to what they would look like if all eight teams were seeded. Moorhead would be 6, Cretin 7 and Hill 8. Why doesn't the MSHSL spare us all teh BS and seed all eight teams?

I so wish the MSHSL would just put the random draw on You Tube TV. I just can't believe anyone there cares enough to rig the draw. It's not like the tournament doesn't get enough interest, that they need to conspire. Also, there's no reason they couldn't seed 1 - 8 if they wanted to.

But hey, that tin foil hat looks great on you.

[BlueLineSpecial]

The "random draw" strikes again!! Those pairings look eerily similar to what they would look like if all eight teams were seeded. Moorhead would be 6, Cretin 7 and Hill 8. Why doesn't the MSHSL spare us all teh BS and seed all eight teams?

I so wish the MSHSL would just put the random draw on You Tube TV. I just can't believe anyone there cares enough to rig the draw. It's not like the tournament doesn't get enough interest, that they need to conspire. Also, there's no reason they couldn't seed 1 - 8 if they wanted to.

But hey, that tin foil hat looks great on you.

I personally don't think its a conspiracy. But it sure seems like 9/10 the 'random' #8 would have been the actual #8. So are they putting the 3 random team names in a hat and having a guest drawer pull them out? Frankly I think they should put the whole selection process on YouTube. Why not? I'd tune in to watch that 30 minutes!

[BlueLineSpecial]

Also, pretty happy actually that Hill got the #1 6PM game. As others have said, I'm not expecting a lot. So I suppose I'd rather lose in primetime than at 11AM. This gives me something to look forward to during the morning sessions.

Minnetonka absolutely shellacked Hill in their regular season meeting in January. 5-0 and shots were like 50-12. I think Hill will give them a better game...and maybe the stars align and they steal one. But this was the one regular season game that felt totally out of reach for HM.

[Sparlimb]

The "random draw" strikes again!! Those pairings look eerily similar to what they would look like if all eight teams were seeded. Moorhead would be 6, Cretin 7 and Hill 8. Why doesn't the MSHSL spare us all teh BS and seed all eight teams?

I so wish the MSHSL would just put the random draw on You Tube TV. I just can't believe anyone there cares enough to rig the draw. It's not like the tournament doesn't get enough interest, that they need to conspire. Also, there's no reason they couldn't seed 1 - 8 if they wanted to.

But hey, that tin foil hat looks great on you.

I personally don't think its a conspiracy. But it sure seems like 9/10 the 'random' #8 would have been the actual #8. So are they putting the 3 random team names in a hat and having a guest drawer pull them out? Frankly I think they should put the whole selection process on YouTube. Why not? I'd tune in to watch that 30 minutes!

I think what they do is put the 3 names in a hat and draw one. Say Moorhead comes out, they go, oh let's put them against Edina. Okay Cretin came out, how about against Maple Grove. Works every time and is completely random what name comes first...

[Sparlimb]

Also, pretty happy actually that Hill got the #1 6PM game. As others have said, I'm not expecting a lot. So I suppose I'd rather lose in primetime than at 11AM. This gives me something to look forward to during the morning sessions.

Minnetonka absolutely shellacked Hill in their regular season meeting in January. 5-0 and shots were like 50-12. I think Hill will give them a better game...and maybe the stars align and they steal one. But this was the one regular season game that felt totally out of reach for HM.

Its hard, because the best time slot to pull the upset is the 11 AM game (or whatever it is now). Sometimes you catch the #2 seed sleeping. That said, night games are so much more fun. Its nice here in Cali, because the first game starts at 9 AM. Somehow my work schedule will be really light later this week...

[East Side Pioneer Guy]

Also, pretty happy actually that Hill got the #1 6PM game. As others have said, I'm not expecting a lot. So I suppose I'd rather lose in primetime than at 11AM. This gives me something to look forward to during the morning sessions.

Minnetonka absolutely shellacked Hill in their regular season meeting in January. 5-0 and shots were like 50-12. I think Hill will give them a better game...and maybe the stars align and they steal one. But this was the one regular season game that felt totally out of reach for HM.

Its hard, because the best time slot to pull the upset is the 11 AM game (or whatever it is now). Sometimes you catch the #2 seed sleeping. That said, night games are so much more fun. Its nice here in Cali, because the first game starts at 9 AM. Somehow my work schedule will be really light later this week...

I think that is true for an inexperienced coach/team, to catch the 2 seed early. But that is not true of this year's MG squad. It's their 4th consecutive trip, and they have strong memories of falling inches short last year. And Giles will be businesslike with the Hornets.

In that respect, of the 3 top teams, Tonka may be the "easiest" to surprise. I can't find it right now, but they haven't been to the tourney much of late. And, has their coach taken a team there before?

[East Side Pioneer Guy]

I so wish the MSHSL would just put the random draw on You Tube TV. I just can't believe anyone there cares enough to rig the draw. It's not like the tournament doesn't get enough interest, that they need to conspire. Also, there's no reason they couldn't seed 1 - 8 if they wanted to.

But hey, that tin foil hat looks great on you.

I personally don't think its a conspiracy. But it sure seems like 9/10 the 'random' #8 would have been the actual #8. So are they putting the 3 random team names in a hat and having a guest drawer pull them out? Frankly I think they should put the whole selection process on YouTube. Why not? I'd tune in to watch that 30 minutes!

I think what they do is put the 3 names in a hat and draw one. Say Moorhead comes out, they go, oh let's put them against Edina. Okay Cretin came out, how about against Maple Grove. Works every time and is completely random what name comes first...

Any crime needs a motive. What would be the motive here? What does the MSHSL have to gain by pitting Tonka against Hill as opposed to Cretin? I just don't see it. I just don't see why they would care enough to bother. Any effect on ticket sales or TV ratings is marginal at best and questionable at worst.

Who has anything to gain by this conspiracy? And couldn't they just gain that by seeding 1-8?

[ClassAGuy]

Also, pretty happy actually that Hill got the #1 6PM game. As others have said, I'm not expecting a lot. So I suppose I'd rather lose in primetime than at 11AM. This gives me something to look forward to during the morning sessions.

Minnetonka absolutely shellacked Hill in their regular season meeting in January. 5-0 and shots were like 50-12. I think Hill will give them a better game...and maybe the stars align and they steal one. But this was the one regular season game that felt totally out of reach for HM.

Its hard, because the best time slot to pull the upset is the 11 AM game (or whatever it is now). Sometimes you catch the #2 seed sleeping. That said, night games are so much more fun. Its nice here in Cali, because the first game starts at 9 AM. Somehow my work schedule will be really light later this week...

I think that is true for an inexperienced coach/team, to catch the 2 seed early. But that is not true of this year's MG squad. It's their 4th consecutive trip, and they have strong memories of falling inches short last year. And Giles will be businesslike with the Hornets.

In that respect, of the 3 top teams, Tonka may be the "easiest" to surprise. I can't find it right now, but they haven't been to the tourney much of late. And, has their coach taken a team there before?

Last went in 2018 when they Beat Hill in the AA QF on their way to winning the AA State Title and Goldsworthy was the coach then and still is today.

[Sparlimb]

Its hard, because the best time slot to pull the upset is the 11 AM game (or whatever it is now). Sometimes you catch the #2 seed sleeping. That said, night games are so much more fun. Its nice here in Cali, because the first game starts at 9 AM. Somehow my work schedule will be really light later this week...

I think that is true for an inexperienced coach/team, to catch the 2 seed early. But that is not true of this year's MG squad. It's their 4th consecutive trip, and they have strong memories of falling inches short last year. And Giles will be businesslike with the Hornets.

In that respect, of the 3 top teams, Tonka may be the "easiest" to surprise. I can't find it right now, but they haven't been to the tourney much of late. And, has their coach taken a team there before?

Last went in 2018 when they Beat Hill in the AA QF on their way to winning the AA State Title and Goldsworthy was the coach then and still is today.

Looking at their record overall and against the field, Tonka is an overwhelming favorite to win it all. They are high school kids and anything can happen, but they really should bring home this title.

[slacsap]

I personally don't think its a conspiracy. But it sure seems like 9/10 the 'random' #8 would have been the actual #8. So are they putting the 3 random team names in a hat and having a guest drawer pull them out? Frankly I think they should put the whole selection process on YouTube. Why not? I'd tune in to watch that 30 minutes!

I think what they do is put the 3 names in a hat and draw one. Say Moorhead comes out, they go, oh let's put them against Edina. Okay Cretin came out, how about against Maple Grove. Works every time and is completely random what name comes first...

Any crime needs a motive. What would be the motive here? What does the MSHSL have to gain by pitting Tonka against Hill as opposed to Cretin? I just don't see it. I just don't see why they would care enough to bother. Any effect on ticket sales or TV ratings is marginal at best and questionable at worst.

Who has anything to gain by this conspiracy? And couldn't they just gain that by seeding 1-8?

I don't think there is any conspiracy. I think the coaches vote 1-8, but the MSHSL only announces seeds 1-5 so that none of the teams is labeled as the "bottom" seed. That is the explanation which the MSHSL has given in the past for only seeding 1-5 and there would be some logic to it if not for the fact that they don't use the same rationale for sections.

[East Side Pioneer Guy]

Thanks for the dope on Tonka, ClassAGuy.

I agree Spar, Tonka is in the driver's seat, it's theirs to lose. I would expect to see the top three seeds playing on Friday night, and I am only slightly less sure of Andover making the semis. MG-Edina would be a pick'em game, and I'd take Tonka by two over Andover.

I'd love to think that Hill is the team that makes everyone nervous to play, but I just don't see that. Don't look past them, but don't psych yourself out, which HS kids can do.

The quarterfinal games may not be as interesting as some are hoping. But I'll be hoping we unsettle the digestion of dinner for plenty of folks around 8PM on Thursday. I wouldn't keep the Tums within reach, but make sure you've got them in the medicine cabinet.