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Games Thursday 1-16-25

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Wadena-Deer Creek vs Morris/Benson Area - Lee Community Center 6:00 PM CST
Mahtomedi vs St. Thomas Academy - St. Thomas Ice Arena 6:00 PM CST

Duluth Marshall vs St. Cloud - St. Cloud - MAC Arena 7:00 PM CST
Moose Lake Area vs Northern Edge - East Bethel Ice Arena 7:00 PM CST

Totino-Grace vs Osseo - Dick Vraa Ice Arena 7:00 PM CST
Willmar vs Fergus Falls - Fergus Falls Ice Arena 7:00 PM CST

Sauk Rapids-Rice vs Prairie Centre - Sauk Centre Ice Arena 7:00 PM CST
Eden Prairie vs Prior Lake - Dakotah! Ice Center 7:00 PM CST

Andover vs Robbinsdale Armstrong/Cooper - New Hope Ice Arena 7:00 PM CST
Proctor vs Rock Ridge - Iron Trail Motors Event Center 7:00 PM CST

Litchfield/Dassel-Cokato vs Southwest Christian/Richfield - Chaska Community Center 7:00 PM CST
Blaine vs Spring Lake Park/Coon Rapids - Fogerty Arena 7:00 PM CST

Breckenridge/Wahpeton vs Park Rapids - Ted O. Johnson Arena, Park Rapids 7:00 PM CST
Hopkins vs St. Michael-Albertville - St. Michael-Albertville Ice Arena 7:00 PM CST

St. Louis Park vs Waconia - Waconia City Ice Arena 7:00 PM CST
Minnesota River vs Windom - Windom Arena 7:00 PM CST

Mora/Milaca vs WSFLG - Lodge Center Arena, 1st Avenue, Siren, WI, USA 7:00 PM CST
MayPort (ND) vs Red Lake Falls - Red Lake Falls High School 7:00 PM CST

Crookston vs Bagley/Fosston - Bagley Arena 7:00 PM CST
Waseca vs Rochester Lourdes - Rochester Graham Arena 7:00 PM CST

Chisago Lakes vs Monticello - Moose Sherritt Ice Arena 7:00 PM CST
Elk River/Zimmerman vs Anoka - Anoka Ice Arena 7:00 PM CST

Rosemount vs Apple Valley/Burnsville - Burnsville Ice Center 7:00 PM CST
Chaska vs Benilde-St. Margaret's - St. Louis Park Recreation Center 7:00 PM CST

New Prague vs Bloomington Jefferson - Bloomington Ice Garden 7:00 PM CST
Brainerd vs Detroit Lakes - Kent Freeman Arena - Detroit Lakes 7:00 PM CST

East Ridge vs Park of Cottage Grove - Cottage Grove Ice Arena 7:00 PM CST
Buffalo vs Edina - Braemar Ice Arena 7:00 PM CST

Simley vs Hill-Murray - Aldrich Arena 7:00 PM CST
Dodge County vs Hutchinson - Hutchinson-Burich Arena 7:00 PM CST

Roseville vs Mounds View - TCO Sports Garden 7:00 PM CST
Duluth East vs Minnetonka - Minnetonka High School 7:00 PM CST

Redwood Valley vs Luverne - Blue Mound Ice Arena 7:00 PM CST
Champlin Park vs Maple Grove - Maple Grove Community Ice Arena 7:00 PM CST

International Falls vs Greenway - Greenway High School 7:00 PM CST
Rochester Century/JM vs Mankato East - Mankato All Seasons Arena 7:15 PM CST

Alexandria vs Sartell - Sartell - Scheels Athletic Complex 7:15 PM CST
Northern Lakes vs River Lakes - Richmond Arena/River Lakes 7:15 PM CST

Winona vs Faribault - Faribault Ice Arena 7:15 PM CST
Providence Academy vs Breck - Breck School Anderson Ice Arena 7:15 PM CST

Austin vs Albert Lea - Albert Lea City Arena 7:15 PM CST
Woodbury vs Cretin-Derham Hall - Highland Ice Arena 7:15 PM CST

Minneapolis vs Delano - Delano Area Sports Arena 7:15 PM CST
Tartan vs Irondale - NSC Super Rink 7:30 PM CST

New Ulm vs Worthington - Worthington Hockey Arena 7:30 PM CST
Warroad vs East Grand Forks - East Grand Forks Civic Center 7:30 PM CST
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Mahtomedi vs St. Thomas Academy - St. Thomas Ice Arena 6:00 PM CST

Proctor vs Rock Ridge - Iron Trail Motors Event Center 7:00 PM CST

Waseca vs Rochester Lourdes - Rochester Graham Arena 7:00 PM CST

Chisago Lakes vs Monticello - Moose Sherritt Ice Arena 7:00 PM CST

International Falls vs Greenway - Greenway High School 7:00 PM CST

Alexandria vs Sartell - Sartell - Scheels Athletic Complex 7:15 PM CST

Northern Lakes vs River Lakes - Richmond Arena/River Lakes 7:15 PM CST

Minneapolis vs Delano - Delano Area Sports Arena 7:15 PM CST

Warroad vs East Grand Forks - East Grand Forks Civic Center 7:30 PM CST
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Hill-Murray up 7-0 on Simley 5 minutes in.
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EGF - 0 - 0 - War

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EGF - 0 - 0 - War

After 1.
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18-0 final for HM. Announcer said they played a running time 2nd period. Has anyone ever heard of that before? Down 12 in the 2nd is running time? Could be the coaches agreed to it. Curious...
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Sparlimb wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 8:33 pm 18-0 final for HM. Announcer said they played a running time 2nd period. Has anyone ever heard of that before? Down 12 in the 2nd is running time? Could be the coaches agreed to it. Curious...
AFAIK Wken I was a the student Manager from 15-17 running time was only when you were up by 6 going into the 3rd. Maybe they doubled it and did it for the 2nd?
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Sparlimb wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 8:33 pm 18-0 final for HM. Announcer said they played a running time 2nd period. Has anyone ever heard of that before? Down 12 in the 2nd is running time? Could be the coaches agreed to it. Curious...
Believe the rule is when it is 10 goals or more in 2nd - its running time. For sure 6 or more in the 3rd.
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Mika 13 Duluth East 0. What on earth is going on up there?
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BHS Hockey Class A Scores
Thursday (1/16/25)

Section 1A
Rochester Lourdes 3 #10 Waseca 2
Albert Lea 3 Austin 2
Dodge County 1 Hutchinson 2
Winona 6 Faribault 0

Section 2A
#14 Minneapolis 4 #11 Delano 2
#23 Providence Academy 6 Breck 6 OT
Litchfield/Dassel-Cokato 0 Southwest Christian/Richfield 4
Hutchinson 2 Dodge County 1

Section 3A
#16 Luverne 8 Redwood Valley 1
New Ulm 9 Worthington 0
Minnesota River 9 Windom 1
Mankato East 0 Rochester Century/JM 2

Section 4A
#12 Mahtomedi 1 St Thomas Academy 5
#20 Chisago Lakes 2 #6 Monticello 3 OT
Southwest Christian/Richfield 4 Litchfield/Dassel-Cokato 0
Simley 0 Hill Murray 18

Section 5A
#6 Monticello 3 #20 Chisago Lakes 2 OT
#19 River Lakes 0 #15 Northern Lakes 1
#24 Sauk Rapids 7 Prairie Centre 3
Mora/Milaca 5 WSFLG 2

Section 6A
#15 Northern Lakes 1 #19 River Lakes 0
#21 Alexandria 2 Sartell 7
Prairie Centre 3 #24 Sauk Rapids 7
Fergus Falls 9 Willmar 0
Breckenridge/Wahpeton 2 Park Rapids 3 OT
Morris Benson 8 Wadena Deer Creek 2

Section 7A
#17 Proctor 2 Rock Ridge 9
#25 International Falls 3 Greenway 0
Moose Lake 1 Northern Edge 6

Section 8A
#3 Warroad 3 #8 East Grand Forks 1
#18 Detroit Lakes 0 Brainerd 0 OT
Park Rapids 3 Breckenridge/Wahpeton 2 OT
Red Lake Falls 5 MayPort (ND) 2
Crookston 3 Bagley/Fosston 1
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Sparlimb wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 8:33 pm 18-0 final for HM. Announcer said they played a running time 2nd period. Has anyone ever heard of that before? Down 12 in the 2nd is running time? Could be the coaches agreed to it. Curious...
Yes, I've seen it one other time. Both coaches agree to it.
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Sparlimb wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 8:33 pm 18-0 final for HM. Announcer said they played a running time 2nd period. Has anyone ever heard of that before? Down 12 in the 2nd is running time? Could be the coaches agreed to it. Curious...
Yes, I've seen it one other time. Both coaches agree to it.
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WarmUpTheBus wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 9:38 pm Mika 13 Duluth East 0. What on earth is going on up there?
Has Karl commented on the state of East? They’ve clearly trended downward so I’m curious to hear what the rumblings are. With a decent pipeline, how confident are they that they’ll get back on track. Even Marshall looks better at this point.
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headsupsticksdown wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 10:17 pm
WarmUpTheBus wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 9:38 pm Mika 13 Duluth East 0. What on earth is going on up there?
Has Karl commented on the state of East? They’ve clearly trended downward so I’m curious to hear what the rumblings are. With a decent pipeline, how confident are they that they’ll get back on track. Even Marshall looks better at this point.
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skiumah wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 10:12 pm
Sparlimb wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 8:33 pm 18-0 final for HM. Announcer said they played a running time 2nd period. Has anyone ever heard of that before? Down 12 in the 2nd is running time? Could be the coaches agreed to it. Curious...
Yes, I've seen it one other time. Both coaches agree to it.
Simley has now lost to STA and HM by matching 18-0 scores. And I can say with certainty that neither were trying to run up the score. That said, I think this is a bad look. It's not fun for STA and Hill, and it isn't fun for Simley. When the coaches are agreeing to allow running time to start early, and aren't even resurfacing the ice between periods to hurry the game along, then the game shouldn't be played.

I applaud the Simley kids for going out there and competing. I'm sure they are great young men and they love the game just as much as anyone. That said, Simley is not a hockey school. They are a low-tier A program and shouldn't be forced to play AA private powerhouses just because they're in the same conference.

There should be class integrity; if you're an A program - guess who you're only going to play? A teams! If you're a AA team - guess who you're only going to play? AA teams! Or re-align conferences where you aren't mixing the two and forcing them to play each other.

Again, I applaud the Simley kids for going out there and competing.
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That's really sad, both hill and st Thomas should have played their jv
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BlueLineSpecial wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 10:15 am
skiumah wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 10:12 pm
Sparlimb wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 8:33 pm 18-0 final for HM. Announcer said they played a running time 2nd period. Has anyone ever heard of that before? Down 12 in the 2nd is running time? Could be the coaches agreed to it. Curious...
Yes, I've seen it one other time. Both coaches agree to it.
Simley has now lost to STA and HM by matching 18-0 scores. And I can say with certainty that neither were trying to run up the score. That said, I think this is a bad look. It's not fun for STA and Hill, and it isn't fun for Simley. When the coaches are agreeing to allow running time to start early, and aren't even resurfacing the ice between periods to hurry the game along, then the game shouldn't be played.

I applaud the Simley kids for going out there and competing. I'm sure they are great young men and they love the game just as much as anyone. That said, Simley is not a hockey school. They are a low-tier A program and shouldn't be forced to play AA private powerhouses just because they're in the same conference.

There should be class integrity; if you're an A program - guess who you're only going to play? A teams! If you're a AA team - guess who you're only going to play? AA teams! Or re-align conferences where you aren't mixing the two and forcing them to play each other.

Again, I applaud the Simley kids for going out there and competing.
What is interesting is Simley went into yesterday's game with a winning record. Seemed every shot found the net in the first period.
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Smooth wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 12:33 pm That's really sad, both hill and st Thomas should have played their jv
Their JV squads played before the varsity squads did, so that wouldn't work. Plus thats almost more insulting. They just shouldn't be playing, period. There is no situation where a AA team should be playing a A team when it's so wildly mismatched that they start running time early, don't resurface the ice, and the AA team has to slow way down so as not to embarrass the other team. HM & STA outshot them 128-16. And again, they were calling the dogs off almost immediately.
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Sparlimb wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 12:41 pm
BlueLineSpecial wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 10:15 am
skiumah wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 10:12 pm

Yes, I've seen it one other time. Both coaches agree to it.
Simley has now lost to STA and HM by matching 18-0 scores. And I can say with certainty that neither were trying to run up the score. That said, I think this is a bad look. It's not fun for STA and Hill, and it isn't fun for Simley. When the coaches are agreeing to allow running time to start early, and aren't even resurfacing the ice between periods to hurry the game along, then the game shouldn't be played.

I applaud the Simley kids for going out there and competing. I'm sure they are great young men and they love the game just as much as anyone. That said, Simley is not a hockey school. They are a low-tier A program and shouldn't be forced to play AA private powerhouses just because they're in the same conference.

There should be class integrity; if you're an A program - guess who you're only going to play? A teams! If you're a AA team - guess who you're only going to play? AA teams! Or re-align conferences where you aren't mixing the two and forcing them to play each other.

Again, I applaud the Simley kids for going out there and competing.
What is interesting is Simley went into yesterday's game with a winning record. Seemed every shot found the net in the first period.
Well, yeah - thats because they're playing and are generally competitive against other low-tier A schools. Which is who they should be playing. I promise you that STA, Hill & Simley aren't putting eachother on their schedules except for because it's mandatory.
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BlueLineSpecial wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 12:48 pm
Sparlimb wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 12:41 pm
BlueLineSpecial wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 10:15 am

Simley has now lost to STA and HM by matching 18-0 scores. And I can say with certainty that neither were trying to run up the score. That said, I think this is a bad look. It's not fun for STA and Hill, and it isn't fun for Simley. When the coaches are agreeing to allow running time to start early, and aren't even resurfacing the ice between periods to hurry the game along, then the game shouldn't be played.

I applaud the Simley kids for going out there and competing. I'm sure they are great young men and they love the game just as much as anyone. That said, Simley is not a hockey school. They are a low-tier A program and shouldn't be forced to play AA private powerhouses just because they're in the same conference.

There should be class integrity; if you're an A program - guess who you're only going to play? A teams! If you're a AA team - guess who you're only going to play? AA teams! Or re-align conferences where you aren't mixing the two and forcing them to play each other.

Again, I applaud the Simley kids for going out there and competing.
What is interesting is Simley went into yesterday's game with a winning record. Seemed every shot found the net in the first period.
Well, yeah - thats because they're playing and are generally competitive against other low-tier A schools. Which is who they should be playing. I promise you that STA, Hill & Simley aren't putting eachother on their schedules except for because it's mandatory.
To be fair, we normally had those sort of games against Two Rivers. Then there was last year. :shock:
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There is a way to solve this -- Hopkins has chosen not to play Edina and Tonka, even though they are in the same conference. Not that hard
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Sparlimb wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 2:21 pm
BlueLineSpecial wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 12:48 pm
Sparlimb wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 12:41 pm

What is interesting is Simley went into yesterday's game with a winning record. Seemed every shot found the net in the first period.
Well, yeah - thats because they're playing and are generally competitive against other low-tier A schools. Which is who they should be playing. I promise you that STA, Hill & Simley aren't putting eachother on their schedules except for because it's mandatory.
To be fair, we normally had those sort of games against Two Rivers. Then there was last year. :shock:
No doubt. But I would argue that teams generally know what they have when schedules are being constructed. If Two Rivers, SSP, Tartan, Simley or anyone else wants to get together with the coaches of the likes of HM, STA, Edina, etc, and say "hey we like our team, think they're going to be good, and we'd like to look at scheduling you" then thats great. Clearly that's what has happened with, for example, Rogers. Rogers has gotten very good, has a good program, and the powers-that-be decided Hill & Rogers should play each other. They haven't played much, if ever, before this year. Thats not random - it's intentional. Because both believe they are good and would match up fairly well.

In other words, let the teams decide if they want to play each other. Versus this force feeding of loplided matchups that benefit no one.
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Cookster wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 2:28 pm There is a way to solve this -- Hopkins has chosen not to play Edina and Tonka, even though they are in the same conference. Not that hard
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And maybe I'm wrong and teams don't have to play everyone in their conference. Maybe it's up to conferences to decide. If teams universally don't have to play everyone in their conference (I was under the impression they had to), then at that point I would question the sanity of STA and Hill leadership for continuing to play in noncompetitive matchups with single-A teams.
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I imagine that this is a matter of conference rules. And conferences are largely voluntary organizations; although the by state law MSHSL can the responsibility to jam an unwanted school into a conference, as was done with STA and the TRMC.

On this forum, we can get myopic and forget that there are other sports that effect things like transfer rules, etc. But for the most part, this seems like a pretty simple problem to solve. Just allow a team to opt out of playing a far superior opponent, Adults sometimes get hung up on rules and by-laws and forget the big picture. One thing we heard during the debate about B1GMistake hockey was that, "Well, the by-laws say if 7 schools in the conference sponsor a sport..." Well change the by-laws and keep the best college hockey conference in the country! Change the rules if it's for the greater good of the sport.

Were all Hill and STA goals scored on a backhand? I sure hope so.
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