2024-25 Section 4A

[ClassAGuy]

Section 4A Week #9 Scores
Tuesday (1/14/25)
#20 Chisago Lakes 2 Cambridge-Isanti 3
Southwest Christian/Richfield 0 #11 Delano 6
St Paul Academy 4 #23 Providence Academy 13
South St Paul 5 St Paul Johnson 1
Simley 6 Bloomington Kennedy 2

Wednesday (1/15/25)
#12 Mahtomedi 6 South St Paul 0
St Paul Highland Park 0 Holy Angels 8

Thursday (1/16/25)
#12 Mahtomedi 1 St Thomas Academy 5
#20 Chisago Lakes 2 #6 Monticello 3 OT
Southwest Christian/Richfield 4 Litchfield/Dassel-Cokato 0
Simley 0 Hill Murray 18

Saturday (1/18/25)
#12 Mahtomedi 3 Two Rivers 3 OT
St. Paul Academy 3 St. Paul Highland Park 1
South St Paul 0 St Thomas Academy 9
Simley 9 Bloomington Kennedy 1
Southwest Christian/Richfield 1 Breck 4

[elliott70]

Even though Maht seems to be down it looks as if it is still their's to lose.

[East Side Pioneer Guy]

Even though Maht seems to be down it looks as if it is still their's to lose.

This. This is why there should only be four sections in Class A.

[ClassAGuy]

Section 4A Ranking (1/19/25)
1- Mahtomedi Zephyrs (5-10-2)
2- Chisago Lakes Wildcats (8-6-2)
3- Southwest Christian/Richfield Stars (5-8-1)
4- St Paul Academy Spartans (4-9-0)
5- Simley Spartans (9-8-0)
6- South St Paul Packer (5-10-1)
7- St. Paul Highland Park Scots (4-11-1)
8- Bloomington Kennedy Eagles (1-14-0)

4A Summary- Mahtomedi got a Section 4A win over South St Paul. Chisago Lakes went winless outside the section and Southwest Christian/Richfield went (1-2-0) outside the section. Simley got a 4A sweep of Bloomington Kennedy. St Paul Academy got a Section 4A win over St Paul Highland Park.

[ClassAGuy]

Section 4A Week #10 Scores
Tuesday (1/21/25)
St Paul Highland Park 6 South St Paul 3
St Paul Academy 1 Blake 8
Bloomington Kennedy 1 Northern Edge 7

Wednesday (1/22/25)
#11 Mahtomedi 7 Chaska 3

Thursday (1/23/25)
#21 Chisago Lakes 2 Pine City 1
Simley 1 Hastings 10
St Paul Academy 6 Mound Westonka 8
Southwest Christian/Richfield 3 St. Paul Highland Park 1
South St Paul 0 Hill Murray 9

Friday (1/24/25)
Southwest Christian/Richfield 6 Mound Westonka 1

Saturday (1/25/25)
#11 Mahtomedi 0 #1 Hermantown 4
St Paul Academy 1 #24 Rochester Lourdes 10
St. Paul Highland Park 3 Irondale 3 OT
Southwest Christian/Richfield 0 Blake 5
Bloomington Kennedy 4 St Paul Johnson 5

[ClassAGuy]

Section 4A Ranking (1/26/25)
1- Mahtomedi Zephyrs (6-11-2)
2- Chisago Lakes Wildcats (9-6-2)
3- Southwest Christian/Richfield Stars (7-9-1)
4- St Paul Academy Spartans (4-12-0)
5- Simley Spartans (9-9-0)
6- St. Paul Highland Park Scots (5-12-2)
7- South St Paul Packers (5-12-1)
8- Bloomington Kennedy Eagles (1-16-0)

4A Summary- Mahtomedi went .500 outside the section and Chisago Lakes won their only game outside the section. Southwest Christian/Richfield got a 4A win over St Paul Highland Park but the Scots picked up a 4A win over South St Paul earlier in the week. St Paul Academy, Simley & Bloomington Kennedy all went winless outside the section this week.

[ClassAGuy]

Section 4A Week #11 Scores
Monday (1/27/25)
Bloomington Kennedy 0 Somerset (Wis.) 11

Tuesday (1/28/25)
#20 Chisago Lakes 3 #12 Mahtomedi 2
Southwest Christian/Richfield 1 Hutchinson 5
St Paul Academy 5 St Paul Johnson 4

Wednesday (1/29/25)
#20 Chisago Lakes 6 Simley 4
St Paul Highland Park 4 Bloomington Kennedy 1

Thursday (1/30/25)
St Paul Highland Park 1 Tartan 2
South St Paul 0 Two Rivers 3
St Paul Academy 3 Simley 2

Friday (1/31/25)
#12 Mahtomedi 0 St Thomas Academy 8
#20 Chisago Lakes 6 Sauk Rapids 4
Southwest Christian/Richfield 3 #9 Delano 3 OT
St. Paul Academy 9 Bloomington Kennedy 2

Saturday (2/1/25)
Simley 1 Tartan 3
South St. Paul 5 La Crescent-Hokah 3
St. Paul Academy 3 WSFLG 6

[hockeyfan74]

Section 4A Week #11 Scores
Monday (1/27/25)
Bloomington Kennedy 0 Somerset (Wis.) 11

Tuesday (1/28/25)
#20 Chisago Lakes 3 #12 Mahtomedi 2
Southwest Christian/Richfield 1 Hutchinson 5
St Paul Academy 5 St Paul Johnson 4

Well Class A Guy - Mahtomedi's Achilles heel showed up big time tonight in a huge Section 4A matchup. This team is way too undisciplined and they don't score enough to make up for the undisciplined hockey. Chisago went 3 for 6 on the PP - all 3 goals were PP. I definitely thought 5 on 5 Mahto was deeper and better but they just can't stay out of the box when it matters. Doesn't seem to be any consequence for bad penalties and it is pretty late in the season but if they don't correct it they won't see St. Paul this year. Congrats to Chisago (Kletti with a big game - 2 goals and an assist after transferring from Mahto) on a big win.

[ClassAGuy]

Section 4A Week #11 Scores
Monday (1/27/25)
Bloomington Kennedy 0 Somerset (Wis.) 11

Tuesday (1/28/25)
#20 Chisago Lakes 3 #12 Mahtomedi 2
Southwest Christian/Richfield 1 Hutchinson 5
St Paul Academy 5 St Paul Johnson 4

Well Class A Guy - Mahtomedi's Achilles heel showed up big time tonight in a huge Section 4A matchup. This team is way too undisciplined and they don't score enough to make up for the undisciplined hockey. Chisago went 3 for 6 on the PP - all 3 goals were PP. I definitely thought 5 on 5 Mahto was deeper and better but they just can't stay out of the box when it matters. Doesn't seem to be any consequence for bad penalties and it is pretty late in the season but if they don't correct it they won't see St. Paul this year. Congrats to Chisago (Kletti with a big game - 2 goals and an assist after transferring from Mahto) on a big win.

Thought of you watching this one hockeyfan74! All the elements of why the Zeph could be a playoff upset victim were in this one. They dont score and they only were able to get 2 goals past a very good Wildcats goalie despite controlling the pace of play 5 v 5. They dont ever take advantage when they get on the PP they are only at 7.4% on the PP omg thats horrid. Then when they got the nice high tip goal for the 2-1 lead they took just really mind boggling uneeded penalties to give the Wildcats life! Kudos to the Mahtomedi transfer on Chisago Lakes now he got some personal revenge I am sure last night with the big 3 pt night and GWG.

Again if they play again I would pick the Zephs to win Chisago may have played their perfect game too early. Although maybe not because as we have talked about the Mahtomedi issues are very concerning and there is no improvement all this weeks later.

Regardless makes 4A much more interesting now!

[BlueLineSpecial]

Does this mean Chisago gets the 1 seed in 4A?

[ClassAGuy]

Does this mean Chisago gets the 1 seed in 4A?

Chisago still plays Simley tonight and South St Paul Monday but as of today yes unless something crazy happens.

[elliott70]

Does this mean Chisago gets the 1 seed in 4A?

Probably.
Coaches still vote and they may not vote it that way.

[stateofhawkey]

If Luverne were to play Mahtomedi in a game tomorrow, Luverne would win.

No they would not. Luverne has played ONE team in the top 25 in class A, no AA teams at all, with their opponents having a combined 15-32-1 record. The one team (Waseca) Luverne played, they tied. Mahtomedi has played 5 AA teams, two being in the top 25, and 5 A teams, all of them in the top 10, who have a combined 44-29-5 record. They lost by 1 to the #3 class A team, beat the #25 AA team, and beat the #5 class A team 4-0.

I believe I'm owed an apology or two for my Mahtomedi takes

[hockeyfan74]

If Luverne were to play Mahtomedi in a game tomorrow, Luverne would win.

No they would not. Luverne has played ONE team in the top 25 in class A, no AA teams at all, with their opponents having a combined 15-32-1 record. The one team (Waseca) Luverne played, they tied. Mahtomedi has played 5 AA teams, two being in the top 25, and 5 A teams, all of them in the top 10, who have a combined 44-29-5 record. They lost by 1 to the #3 class A team, beat the #25 AA team, and beat the #5 class A team 4-0.

I believe I'm owed an apology or two for my Mahtomedi takes

Stateofhawkey - I would still contend Mahtomedi would easily beat Luverne. Luverne has played two top teams and lost by a combined score of 10 - 1 and were outshot 44 to 11 vs Monticello. They were not even in that game. While I agree 100% Mahto has struggled they have done much better vs the top end on A.
Lost in OT to Hibbing and Cloquet
Beat Warroad 4 - 0

They really do need to stop taking dumb penalties and burying more pucks or they may not make it to state but the comparison to Luverne is silly in my opinion.

[BlueLineSpecial]

Admittedly, I'm surprised by Mahtomedi's loss to Chisago. I guess they do have some competition in section 4A this year. For the better part of the decade, Mahtomedi has owned this section. In the last 10 seasons, the Zephyrs have won the section 8 times. The lost in the section championship to Gentry in 2020-2021. Gentry bulldozed everyone that year on their way to the class A title. They also lost in sections to 2015-2016. I don't really remember who came out of the section that year.

I still believe Mahtomedi wins 4A this year, but Chisago showed that if things go their way, there could be an upset. Not sure when the last time they were at State, but it hasn't been in the last decade.....

[hockeyfan74]

Rumor has it Mathomedi redid their tryouts yesterday. All it really shows is the staff is in panic mode as well. To me it is real easy they need to bench the kids that keep taking dumb penalties and hurting the team. They won't change if there is no consequence. Also feel they are not very deep on D and have one of the better young D playing F which doesn't make a lot of sense. They get pinned and the D panic too much and just through pucks.

Historically they have it figured out by now but this team is still searching for it's identity. 4A is certainly going to be very interesting!

[stateofhawkey]

No they would not. Luverne has played ONE team in the top 25 in class A, no AA teams at all, with their opponents having a combined 15-32-1 record. The one team (Waseca) Luverne played, they tied. Mahtomedi has played 5 AA teams, two being in the top 25, and 5 A teams, all of them in the top 10, who have a combined 44-29-5 record. They lost by 1 to the #3 class A team, beat the #25 AA team, and beat the #5 class A team 4-0.

I believe I'm owed an apology or two for my Mahtomedi takes

Stateofhawkey - I would still contend Mahtomedi would easily beat Luverne. Luverne has played two top teams and lost by a combined score of 10 - 1 and were outshot 44 to 11 vs Monticello. They were not even in that game. While I agree 100% Mahto has struggled they have done much better vs the top end on A.
Lost in OT to Hibbing and Cloquet
Beat Warroad 4 - 0

They really do need to stop taking dumb penalties and burying more pucks or they may not make it to state but the comparison to Luverne is silly in my opinion.

You're clinging very strongly to Mahtomedi's "good losses." Sure, they've had some close games against ranked teams in A. But, they average 2.4 goals per game, and have also lost to a 5-13 Centennial team and 7-12 East Ridge team. Not to mention they tied 8-10-2 Prior Lake. I will agree that they can play close games with good teams, but they aren't winning them. The Chisago Lakes game was the final benchmark for where this team is at, and they couldn't score much against them either. Where you get the idea that Mahtomedi would "easily" beat Luverne, I have no idea, considering the only teams they've "easily" beaten are South St. Paul and Chaska. And Luverne is obviously a class above those teams. You only say Mahtomedi has "done better" vs. the top end on A because Mahtomedi has played those games. The Zephyrs' record against Class A Top 10 teams is 2-6-0. Not exactly something to write home about.

[elliott70]

Admittedly, I'm surprised by Mahtomedi's loss to Chisago. I guess they do have some competition in section 4A this year. For the better part of the decade, Mahtomedi has owned this section. In the last 10 seasons, the Zephyrs have won the section 8 times. The lost in the section championship to Gentry in 2020-2021. Gentry bulldozed everyone that year on their way to the class A title. They also lost in sections to 2015-2016. I don't really remember who came out of the section that year.

I still believe Mahtomedi wins 4A this year, but Chisago showed that if things go their way, there could be an upset. Not sure when the last time they were at State, but it hasn't been in the last decade.....

Totino Grace????

[ClassAGuy]

Admittedly, I'm surprised by Mahtomedi's loss to Chisago. I guess they do have some competition in section 4A this year. For the better part of the decade, Mahtomedi has owned this section. In the last 10 seasons, the Zephyrs have won the section 8 times. The lost in the section championship to Gentry in 2020-2021. Gentry bulldozed everyone that year on their way to the class A title. They also lost in sections to 2015-2016. I don't really remember who came out of the section that year.

I still believe Mahtomedi wins 4A this year, but Chisago showed that if things go their way, there could be an upset. Not sure when the last time they were at State, but it hasn't been in the last decade.....

Totino Grace????

It was St Paul Academy in 2015-16, TG went in 2013-14

Great points raised by everyone. I think Mahtomedi would still be the pick to win 4A having watched that game vs Chisago Lakes. However, gonna be interesting now... And hey Simley was beating Chisago for large chunks of the game last night and St Paul Highland Park tied Chisago Lakes....

Whos to say we even get a rematch of Maht vs CL .... Hope we do would be a good game!

Sections in 2 weeks cant wait!

[BlueLineSpecial]

Admittedly, I'm surprised by Mahtomedi's loss to Chisago. I guess they do have some competition in section 4A this year. For the better part of the decade, Mahtomedi has owned this section. In the last 10 seasons, the Zephyrs have won the section 8 times. The lost in the section championship to Gentry in 2020-2021. Gentry bulldozed everyone that year on their way to the class A title. They also lost in sections to 2015-2016. I don't really remember who came out of the section that year.

I still believe Mahtomedi wins 4A this year, but Chisago showed that if things go their way, there could be an upset. Not sure when the last time they were at State, but it hasn't been in the last decade.....

Totino Grace????

It was St Paul Academy in 2015-16, TG went in 2013-14

Great points raised by everyone. I think Mahtomedi would still be the pick to win 4A having watched that game vs Chisago Lakes. However, gonna be interesting now... And hey Simley was beating Chisago for large chunks of the game last night and St Paul Highland Park tied Chisago Lakes....

Whos to say we even get a rematch of Maht vs CL .... Hope we do would be a good game!

Sections in 2 weeks cant wait!

I'm not used to a lot of competition in 4A, so this has the potential for there to finally be a little sectional drama. Looking back on the 8 section titles in 10 years:

-During those 8 years, the Zephyrs outscored sectional opponents 141-21 Not much drama!

2014/15
26-6

2016/17
10-2

2017/18
14-5

2018/19
17-2

2019/20
14-2

2021/22
19-0

2022/23
22-2

2023/24
19-2

Obviously some of the lobsided scores came from sectional quarterfinal and semifinal games, but still. Mahtomedi has steamrolled thru sections lately, with only a couple of exceptions.

[hockeyfan74]

I believe I'm owed an apology or two for my Mahtomedi takes

Stateofhawkey - I would still contend Mahtomedi would easily beat Luverne. Luverne has played two top teams and lost by a combined score of 10 - 1 and were outshot 44 to 11 vs Monticello. They were not even in that game. While I agree 100% Mahto has struggled they have done much better vs the top end on A.
Lost in OT to Hibbing and Cloquet
Beat Warroad 4 - 0

They really do need to stop taking dumb penalties and burying more pucks or they may not make it to state but the comparison to Luverne is silly in my opinion.

You're clinging very strongly to Mahtomedi's "good losses." Sure, they've had some close games against ranked teams in A. But, they average 2.4 goals per game, and have also lost to a 5-13 Centennial team and 7-12 East Ridge team. Not to mention they tied 8-10-2 Prior Lake. I will agree that they can play close games with good teams, but they aren't winning them. The Chisago Lakes game was the final benchmark for where this team is at, and they couldn't score much against them either. Where you get the idea that Mahtomedi would "easily" beat Luverne, I have no idea, considering the only teams they've "easily" beaten are South St. Paul and Chaska. And Luverne is obviously a class above those teams. You only say Mahtomedi has "done better" vs. the top end on A because Mahtomedi has played those games. The Zephyrs' record against Class A Top 10 teams is 2-6-0. Not exactly something to write home about.

Not clinging to anything. My point was actually the Luverne comparison was not a good take in my opinion. They have played a super soft schedule - not sure who they have tried to add to their schedule but my guess is Mahtomedi's record would be very similar had they played the same schedule.

I absolutely agree they are struggling to bury pucks and they have some issues to work out. They are also very young with 6 sophomores and 2 freshman getting significant playing time. Historically they have been able to figure it out when it matters but I am concerned about that this year as they are running out of time. I also agree the Chisago loss was not good but that is a tricky team as they have some really odd scores including only losing 3 - 2 to Monticello in OT. It will be fun to see what happens come sections.

And who knows maybe we will get a chance to see Luverne and Mahto play each other. If they both make state my guess is they could meet on the consolation side as I am not sure either would win their first round game but only time will tell.

[East Side Pioneer Guy]

I'd venture that never in the long and storied history of this forum has so much ink been spilled over a team entering February with five wins. I am in awe.

[BlueLineSpecial]

I'd venture that never in the long and storied history of this forum has so much ink been spilled over a team entering February with five wins. I am in awe.

six wins

[East Side Pioneer Guy]

I'd venture that never in the long and storied history of this forum has so much ink been spilled over a team entering February with five wins. I am in awe.

six wins

Well, that changes everything, does it not?

[bardown27]

If Luverne were to play Mahtomedi in a game tomorrow, Luverne would win.

No they would not. Luverne has played ONE team in the top 25 in class A, no AA teams at all, with their opponents having a combined 15-32-1 record. The one team (Waseca) Luverne played, they tied. Mahtomedi has played 5 AA teams, two being in the top 25, and 5 A teams, all of them in the top 10, who have a combined 44-29-5 record. They lost by 1 to the #3 class A team, beat the #25 AA team, and beat the #5 class A team 4-0.

I believe I'm owed an apology or two for my Mahtomedi takes

Care to rescind?

Luverne vs top 15 class A teams: 0-4, outscored 17-3 (4.25 GA/G, .76 GF/G)
Mahtomedi vs top 15 class A teams: 2-6, outscored 25-16 (3.25 GA/G, 2 GF/G)