Yes, the high school situation is MSHSL not Minnesota Hockey, but the movement at the youth level—check out the rosters of last year’s Tonka and Osseo-Maple Grove Peewee AA teams that played in state title game—that Minnesota Hockey does have control over is absurd and not investigated. Families are getting fake leases or using a friend’s address to claim they “live” in the youth association’s boundaries while still living at their real home and still going to school where they actually live. Tonka and OMG (two of the state’s biggest associations, making their recruiting even more ridiculous) aren’t the only ones doing this, but they are particularly terrible and blatant offenders. OMG’s Peewee AA coach, Derek Peltier, has recruited players from his SDP AAA program all three years he’s been the OMG Peewee AA coach. None of Peltier’s recruits live in OMG’s boundaries (they claim to live at addresses they don’t and none of them go to school in Maple Grove). EVERYONE knows this. The recruits and their parents are open about it, making it even more absurd. Until Minnesota Hockey quits ignoring this and throws the book at offenders it will only get worse.elliott70 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 12, 2025 11:58 amThis is not a Minesota Hockey controlled event.BSUBeaver wrote: ↑Tue Nov 11, 2025 6:09 pmYeah, leave it to Minnesota Hockey to allow a free for all in youth hockey.smhockey77 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 11, 2025 12:48 pm "Returns to Edina" is funny given he played for Moorhead last season.
And MH (at least most directors) work very hard at regulating movement.
It is discussed frequently.
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SpreadOut!
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First, this particular incident was not a MH event. So not absurd.
Second, how many players in district 3? How many paid staff in d3?
Third, if you know for a fact this is happening, why are you not reporting it to MH so it can be investigated? As my old boss used to say, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.
Fourth, this is not the only matter the district director oversees. The director has many responsibilities in a volunteer capacity.
District 16 has about 2000 players about 250 refs about 400 coaches plus a bunch of volunteers plus about 4000 parents and one person to handle them and everything that goes with it.
And what do you do?
Second, how many players in district 3? How many paid staff in d3?
Third, if you know for a fact this is happening, why are you not reporting it to MH so it can be investigated? As my old boss used to say, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.
Fourth, this is not the only matter the district director oversees. The director has many responsibilities in a volunteer capacity.
District 16 has about 2000 players about 250 refs about 400 coaches plus a bunch of volunteers plus about 4000 parents and one person to handle them and everything that goes with it.
And what do you do?
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Peltier is a grade A douchebag and you can quote me on that.
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It’s been reported to the district and MN Hockey constantly. One of the associations two of the players Peltier recruited away from last year went to MN Hockey…loudly. They did nothing. “Well if they have addresses we can’t do anything about it.” Departed Association: “They live here and go to school here. We see them every day. What addresses are they supposedly living at in Maple Grove?” Minnesota Hockey and OMG: “That’s private.”elliott70 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 13, 2025 7:15 am First, this particular incident was not a MH event. So not absurd.
Second, how many players in district 3? How many paid staff in d3?
Third, if you know for a fact this is happening, why are you not reporting it to MH so it can be investigated? As my old boss used to say, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.
Fourth, this is not the only matter the district director oversees. The director has many responsibilities in a volunteer capacity.
District 16 has about 2000 players about 250 refs about 400 coaches plus a bunch of volunteers plus about 4000 parents and one person to handle them and everything that goes with it.
And what do you do?
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It didn't come to MH board and was not on the grievance committee reports so I am not sure it went to MH. It may have went to the district and as I said MOST directors take it very seriously.SpreadOut! wrote: ↑Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:25 amIt’s been reported to the district and MN Hockey constantly. One of the associations two of the players Peltier recruited away from last year went to MN Hockey…loudly. They did nothing. “Well if they have addresses we can’t do anything about it.” Departed Association: “They live here and go to school here. We see them every day. What addresses are they supposedly living at in Maple Grove?” Minnesota Hockey and OMG: “That’s private.”elliott70 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 13, 2025 7:15 am First, this particular incident was not a MH event. So not absurd.
Second, how many players in district 3? How many paid staff in d3?
Third, if you know for a fact this is happening, why are you not reporting it to MH so it can be investigated? As my old boss used to say, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.
Fourth, this is not the only matter the district director oversees. The director has many responsibilities in a volunteer capacity.
District 16 has about 2000 players about 250 refs about 400 coaches plus a bunch of volunteers plus about 4000 parents and one person to handle them and everything that goes with it.
And what do you do?
I investigate between three and eight violations every year. If found to be in violation the player goes back or obtains a waiver.
If you have a problem, I suggest you bring it to someone that will take action on it.
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OMG, D3 and MN Hockey are 100% well aware that Peltier has recruited players from his SDP program all three years he’s been OMG’s Peewee AA coach—a goalie from St. Louis Park two years ago, two skaters from STMA and one from Blaine last year, and a goalie from Anoka this year. OMG, D3 and MN Hockey received numerous complaints last year on this, including from STMA, which raised it loudly all the way up the flag poll. STMA was told by OMG, D3 and MN Hockey that they can pound sand because “the players have addresses” but won’t share them. Again, all of these kids DO NOT live in the OMG boundaries or go to school in MG. The SLP goalie now plays for Shattuck. The other four Peltier recruits all have fake leases or are using friends’ addresses to claim they live in the boundaries. None of them do and EVERYONE knows it. MN Hockey won’t do anything because they are terrified that a well-off family doing this will sue MN Hockey over their residency rules and win in court—blowing the whole community development model to bits. Ask around. This is all well known in MN hockey circles.elliott70 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 13, 2025 1:14 pmIt didn't come to MH board and was not on the grievance committee reports so I am not sure it went to MH. It may have went to the district and as I said MOST directors take it very seriously.SpreadOut! wrote: ↑Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:25 amIt’s been reported to the district and MN Hockey constantly. One of the associations two of the players Peltier recruited away from last year went to MN Hockey…loudly. They did nothing. “Well if they have addresses we can’t do anything about it.” Departed Association: “They live here and go to school here. We see them every day. What addresses are they supposedly living at in Maple Grove?” Minnesota Hockey and OMG: “That’s private.”elliott70 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 13, 2025 7:15 am First, this particular incident was not a MH event. So not absurd.
Second, how many players in district 3? How many paid staff in d3?
Third, if you know for a fact this is happening, why are you not reporting it to MH so it can be investigated? As my old boss used to say, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.
Fourth, this is not the only matter the district director oversees. The director has many responsibilities in a volunteer capacity.
District 16 has about 2000 players about 250 refs about 400 coaches plus a bunch of volunteers plus about 4000 parents and one person to handle them and everything that goes with it.
And what do you do?
I investigate between three and eight violations every year. If found to be in violation the player goes back or obtains a waiver.
If you have a problem, I suggest you bring it to someone that will take action on it.
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You mean, like, attending one school online while never setting foot in the school you are "attending" and playing for? That would never happen.SpreadOut! wrote: ↑Tue Nov 11, 2025 8:05 pm The MSHSL and Minnesota Hockey at this point should just come out and publicly admit that there are no eligibility rules based on where you live or where you played last year (or earlier this year). You can live wherever you want to now and play for whoever you want to. There are zero rules being followed or enforced regarding residency. It’s getting so bad that, pretty soon, you’ll probably be able to play for a high school team if you don’t even go to the high school. It’s a joke.
How about you have to be enrolled in a school by Sept 1? Would that do anything?
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I keep hearing from people that both the MSHSL and Minnesota Hockey will not address these residency issues because they are both terrified of a well-off family who is pulling this crap suing to challenge residency requirements and winning in court. That’s why these “moves” keep getting worse every year and neither entity is lifting a finger to do anything about it.East Side Pioneer Guy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 13, 2025 5:24 pmYou mean, like, attending one school online while never setting foot in the school you are "attending" and playing for? That would never happen.SpreadOut! wrote: ↑Tue Nov 11, 2025 8:05 pm The MSHSL and Minnesota Hockey at this point should just come out and publicly admit that there are no eligibility rules based on where you live or where you played last year (or earlier this year). You can live wherever you want to now and play for whoever you want to. There are zero rules being followed or enforced regarding residency. It’s getting so bad that, pretty soon, you’ll probably be able to play for a high school team if you don’t even go to the high school. It’s a joke.
How about you have to be enrolled in a school by Sept 1? Would that do anything?