Moorhead Edina

[SpreadOut!]

Tucker Johnson for sure.

So one is a bunch in your world.

I don’t know the players’ names. The only reason I am naming Johnson is because even the announcers named him. Whoever knocked the stick out of Moorhead player as he was picking it up as time was expiring that preceded the stuff at the end is also a baby. Or maybe that was Johnson, too? Does it matter? It was a terrible look for Edina at the end of the game. Are you debating that? Take the L and grow up. Giles and the EHS principal should light up Johnson and anyone else that embarrassed their school and community at the end of that game. Ridiculous.

[InThePipes]

Tucker Johnson for sure.

So one is a bunch in your world.

I don’t know the players’ names. The only reason I am naming Johnson is because even the announcers named him. Whoever knocked the stick out of Moorhead player as he was picking it up as time was expiring that preceded the stuff at the end is also a baby. Or maybe that was Johnson, too? Does it matter? It was a terrible look for Edina at the end of the game. Are you debating that? Take the L and grow up. Giles and the EHS principal should light up Johnson and anyone else that embarrassed their school and community at the end of that game. Ridiculous.

The ref likely could have called interference (twice) or slashing with about 10-15 seconds left, which probably would have prevented the whole situation. Instead, the whistle was swallowed and the chaos followed.

[Sparlimb]

Had only the board called out Edina's cheap play halfway through the season. Oh wait, you did!

Total lack of class. I get the frustration of losing, but that's really not good to see.

[SEC Scotty]

Great game by Augustana recruit Tyden Bergeson. Incredible pass on the Zimmerman goal.

[O-townClown]

Does it matter?

Obviously not. You "don't know the players" yet have no problem saying "a bunch" are classless. You aren't credible and don't know what you're talking about. Noted.

I could be easily swayed to jump on your train, if only there was a cogent point. In a tournament where players from Hibbing and Rosemount were unable to play because of post-game antics...after a game where multiple upper-deck sections of the ex-X were serenading the Hornet players with a vulgar "FKKK Edina!" chant that got several attendees ejected...a "bunch" of Edina kids are the problem.

There are multiple videos floating around Twitter with the final horn and it seems most of the Edina kids were motionless, just like the Irish players two hours before when Minnetonka scored.

When you could have said something like, "I hate Edina and am glad they lost...and one kid was a total donkey!" you veered into a different direction.

Stinger envy is real. Always funny to see it though.

Moorhead was the far better team last night. Play again today and they'll probably win by the same score. As for their opponent...there's one player that does stupid stuff every time I've watched the Skips this year and it never occurred to me his behavior is representative of the community as a whole.

[O-townClown]

Great game by Augustana recruit Tyden Bergeson. Incredible pass on the Zimmerman goal.

Great game by pretty much everyone on Moorhead. They looked like the team I declared four goals better than everyone else before the season kicked up.

Just think, at the beginning of November there seemed to be as much likelihood (more?) of Pittsley & Vandertop playing high school while Bergeson & Zimmerman stayed in the USHL. Plus Joey was still with Honeybaked. If his intentions were to play for the Spuds, that was not shared publicly.

Seeing the Pee Wee & Bantam success caused me to tell Ammerman they'd win 4-5 state titles in a row before they'd even won one. Continuing to lose players to the national program erodes that possibility, but dang. 2026 Moorhead is awfully darn good.

[Doc Holliday]

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[Doc Holliday]

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[Doc Holliday]

Game: Edina just didn't have the offensive juice like years past. Played pretty sound, but a mistake lead to each of the first two goals (1st goal losing track of guys & positioning during the delayed penalty & neutral zone turnover & not getting it deep lead to the rush on the 2nd). Moorhead did what they do & that's make them pay for their mistakes. Good game plan by Edina, but can't expect to play a perfect game & good job by Moorhead not to panic, knowing they'd eventually make plays. Moorhead was clearly a superior team.

After Game: Not a good look for Johnson. I also have never heard so many F-bombs at a sporting event, along with adults throughout the arena laughing about it. I wasn't around during the 70s, but it seems hatred for Edina has been taken to a new level. But Johnson also didn't exactly help the case.

Perhaps I've become old man yelling at the clouds, but the use of the word has become too normalized & accepted. I wish that was not the case.

[East Side Pioneer Guy]

So one is a bunch in your world.

I don’t know the players’ names. The only reason I am naming Johnson is because even the announcers named him. Whoever knocked the stick out of Moorhead player as he was picking it up as time was expiring that preceded the stuff at the end is also a baby. Or maybe that was Johnson, too? Does it matter? It was a terrible look for Edina at the end of the game. Are you debating that? Take the L and grow up. Giles and the EHS principal should light up Johnson and anyone else that embarrassed their school and community at the end of that game. Ridiculous.

The ref likely could have called interference (twice) or slashing with about 10-15 seconds left, which probably would have prevented the whole situation. Instead, the whistle was swallowed and the chaos followed.

Oof, yeah, so many F bombs, as I took my grandson to his first boys state hockey tournament. Yeah, it was bad.

I'm sure Stripes would like to have that one back. I can see how the thinking in the moment was, "Hey, the clock is running, well under a minute left, two goal lead so the result is not in question, let's just finish it up here." And we've all been at games where penalties were called in the last ten seconds of a game and thought, "Why bother?" I guess I see the wisdom of doing that now. And if a ref reaches the point of getting the honor of working a state tournament game, I'd expect better judgement.

Everyone hates Edina, but it's not like this should be seen as an indictment of the entire program. It's not like this sort of thing has a long history there, or even a short history (as far as I know). They're just kids, and they don't have a lot of experience in life.

I'm going to keep this pretty generic, even though it's been decades. In the mid-80's a team came to St Paul with high expectations. They knew they were carrying the hopes of their entire town, and that's a lot of pressure to put on kids. They lost in the first round, which was a surprise to many. In the locker room afterward, first one, and then more players, lashed out at reporters, angrily telling them to get out. The following day, 2 or 3 of the players, in dress shirts and ties (a rarity then) appeared in the Civic Center press box and humbly handed someone a written statement apologizing for the incident a day earlier and inviting them into their locker room after the remaining games. I would hope for something along those lines to happen today.

It's only a game.

[O-townClown]

Everyone hates Edina, but it's not like this should be seen as an indictment of the entire program. It's not like this sort of thing has a long history there, or even a short history (as far as I know).

Exactly. A Twitter comment mentions classless behavior going back decades. Like what? There's something yesterday and Henry Boucha in the 60s. That leaves 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s & 10s. I'm with ya' here...I don't recall scandalous behavior or shameful incidents.

Curt Giles has been coach a long time, with the luxury of not needing any one player. A Division I commit won't do some of the things asked? Poof, you can watch the game with me from the bench.

His Hornet teams are tough. Pushed, the players are definitely encouraged to push back. Never is this more evident than when facing Wayzata. Shy away from the Trojans? Heck no...the two teams play a preseason scrimmage annually that at times has devolved into embarrassing bedlam.

[ryguyMN]

Had only the board called out Edina's cheap play halfway through the season. Oh wait, you did!

Total lack of class. I get the frustration of losing, but that's really not good to see.

Problem is Giles can’t get called out because he’s seen as an untouchable in the community. In the Wayzata/Edina game earlier in the year, you nearly had two players square off to chuck some knucks because Wazyata players were tired of their antics. Not sure I’ve ever seen that before.

[Nostalgic Nerd]

Had only the board called out Edina's cheap play halfway through the season. Oh wait, you did!

Total lack of class. I get the frustration of losing, but that's really not good to see.

Problem is Giles can’t get called out because he’s seen as an untouchable in the community.

I doubt Giles condones that type of behavior though.

I think one can analyze strategy all you want but it felt pretty clear to me Moorhead had 2-4 threats that were better than any of Edina's. Sure the score sheet says 19-19 SOG, but when I look at quality chances Edina hardly had any. Bode strikes me as a good scorer, but is he a good skater that can dominate? I just don't think Edina can compare to the offensive skills of Tonka or Moorhead.

[East Side Pioneer Guy]

I can tell you that the arena staff get to know these coaches and programs very well. And Giles is highly regarded, barely second to only one other coach. They report him to be extremely gracious and personable, always individually acknowledging the staff that he sees every year. They tell me he is a class act, and never arrogant or entitled.

I won't mention the programs that they have no respect for, but one is there this year.

[ryguyMN]

Had only the board called out Edina's cheap play halfway through the season. Oh wait, you did!

Total lack of class. I get the frustration of losing, but that's really not good to see.

Problem is Giles can’t get called out because he’s seen as an untouchable in the community.

I doubt Giles condones that type of behavior though.

The problem is that how he has programmed his team to play all year. All the after the whistle nonsense. Of course, he wears the same expression all the time, so you never know what he thinks.

[ryguyMN]

The people defending the after game antics is more of an indictment on society today than anything else. Yeah, it’s pearl clutching a bit.

[headsupsticksdown]

It’s a good story and tagline and that’s about it. I’m not from Edina nor do I have anything kelly green in my closet. Every game played against them is treated as a must win in this house. Sure, there’s some entitlement going on but mostly that’s a few parents. The kids my kids have interacted with and I’ve interacted with have always been respectful and surprisingly supported my kids when not playing against each other. It’s a sight to see when you’re now district/section vs another and you’ve got Edina kids shaking and pounding on the glass for a rival school.

They’ve got money. Their fans and student section shows up. They’ve got pride for their school. Tradition. They will be one of probably only 5 associations that will survive what is becoming a drastic increase in associations either folding or being forced to coop and that’s because they have all of this. On the boys and girls side they won’t skip a beat.

To me you’re gonna get arrogant parents and obnoxious kids everywhere. My opinion and I might get jumped on for this but Tonka, PL, Farmington, Woodbury, CC all have far worse parents and kids with attitudes these days.

[headsupsticksdown]

Problem is Giles can’t get called out because he’s seen as an untouchable in the community.

I doubt Giles condones that type of behavior though.

The problem is that how he has programmed his team to play all year. All the after the whistle nonsense. Of course, he wears the same expression all the time, so you never know what he thinks.

I get your point. The bumps and extra curricular stuff after the whistle is tired. It’s clear his plan is to be physical and relentless on the puck. No excuses here but it’s hard for these kids to turn that on/off. Who knows, maybe he is coaching to do that but after seeing him handle antics in the past it’s hard to believe. Or maybe it is a character thing for a few players?

[SpreadOut!]

Does it matter?

Obviously not. You "don't know the players" yet have no problem saying "a bunch" are classless. You aren't credible and don't know what you're talking about. Noted.

I could be easily swayed to jump on your train, if only there was a cogent point. In a tournament where players from Hibbing and Rosemount were unable to play because of post-game antics...after a game where multiple upper-deck sections of the ex-X were serenading the Hornet players with a vulgar "FKKK Edina!" chant that got several attendees ejected...a "bunch" of Edina kids are the problem.

There are multiple videos floating around Twitter with the final horn and it seems most of the Edina kids were motionless, just like the Irish players two hours before when Minnetonka scored.

When you could have said something like, "I hate Edina and am glad they lost...and one kid was a total donkey!" you veered into a different direction.

Stinger envy is real. Always funny to see it though.

Moorhead was the far better team last night. Play again today and they'll probably win by the same score. As for their opponent...there's one player that does stupid stuff every time I've watched the Skips this year and it never occurred to me his behavior is representative of the community as a whole.

Dude. I have eyes. As does everyone else. I’ve been watching the tourney for 40+ years and I’ve NEVER seen the kind of behavior that we saw from Edina last night as game ended. I get it that you are—OBVIOUSLY—super sensitive about this and are an Edina guy, but the fact is the behavior last night by Johnson, for sure, and potentially others, looked terrible. If people were shouting f-bombs in the arena all over the place at Edina, then I condemn them too. That still doesn’t excuse Johnson’s behavior. Terrible look for his character.

[O-townClown]

I get it that you are—OBVIOUSLY—super sensitive about this and are an Edina guy, but the fact is the behavior last night by Johnson, for sure, and potentially others, looked terrible.

I'm unaware of anyone condoning Tucker Johnson's choices at the end of the game. If they did, odd. Poor sportsmanship shouldn't be tolerated.

My super sensitivity is always about understanding viewpoints. You have eyes but can't cite anything beyond some dipstick antics after the horn involving a player and somehow reach a conclusion with a "bunch" of classless youth. The trouble when you paint with a broad brush is you're left with a lousy picture.

Some people need villains. I'm glad you found yours.

[ChrisK]

A lot of good points here. Giles teams do play with an edge and through the whistle but sometimes that leads to playing past, over, around and beyond the whistle like it has with this year's team and with Johnson in last night's game in particular. Cullen and Johnson went into the box with five minutes left because Johnson had hacked Cullen pretty good and Cullen retaliated. And then as the game wound down, Johnson didn't stop and took a few more cheap shots which lead to the mess at the end. It doesn't seem unfair to expect better discipline and behavior from a senior Mr. Hockey Candidate after losing a big game than from a sophomore goaltender who'd just beaten one of the top teams in the state to make it to the tourney. Based on my perception of Giles I would expect consequences. If nothing else, Johnson should not be playing tonight.

Before the game, my seatmates and I were discussing strategy and felt that Edina would play physical, which is a standard way to try slow down the high flying Moorhead offense (see Hill v Roseau 2008 for a textbook example). They really didn't, which is surprising and maybe a bit ironic considering how the game ended. To their credit, they were able to stay even with them for two periods, but ill timed penalties and Moorhead's skill were too much in the end.

Personally, with some Edina hockey moms sitting in front of us and fitting every bad stereotype from an overdeveloped sense of entitlement to customized 'Edina' leather mittens, it was especially delicious to watch the Hornets lose. I'm not a fan of the F- Edina chant, but I think it reflects a change in social mores rather than a newly heightened Edina hatred. That feeling has always been there, just not expressed that way. All that said, I do have a lot of respect for Edina as a program. They've been one of the best community based hockey programs in the state for some 60 years and that takes a commitment and focus worthy of admiration. However, it's a bit like how baseball fans have felt about the Yankees, yeah, those are great teams full of talent and skill, but I just can't cheer for 'em.

[southwestrink]

Clowns belong in the circus and last night Ed Nah was a perfect example of what the Ringling Bro's provide!

[O-townClown]

Totally, Chris. Well said.

[East Side Pioneer Guy]

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The problem is that how he has programmed his team to play all year. All the after the whistle nonsense. Of course, he wears the same expression all the time, so you never know what he thinks.
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Yeah I'd hate to play poker with that guy. Pair of two's or four of a kind, I'd have no clue what he's holding.

[headsupsticksdown]

The problem is that how he has programmed his team to play all year. All the after the whistle nonsense. Of course, he wears the same expression all the time, so you never know what he thinks.
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Yeah I'd hate to play poker with that guy. Pair of two's or four of a kind, I'd have no clue what he's holding.
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I once witnessed that stare as he was waiting to get on the ice. A JV kid or manager was saying something to him and it was that glare. Nothing else. No words. No high fives. Nothing.