NFL Draft

Blue Breeze · Post by **Blue Breeze** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 11:54 am

It's still nearly two weeks away, but with all the coverage on it I feel like it has already happened. Most prognostications have the Vikings taking Ernie Sims, although there is some speculation they may try to trade up to nab Vince Young. They still have quite a few needs, notably Linebacker, Quarterback, Cornerback, and arguably Running Back. 5 picks on the first day, so they should be able to fill some voids. Reggie Bush is the consensus # 1, and it seems a certainty that Leinart will head to Tennessee. The draft has become an event in itself, and I for one get suckered into the hype. Anyone else have thoughts on what direction the Vikes, or your favorite team, may go?

boblee · Post by **boblee** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 12:36 pm

The Packers need to take AJ Hawk with the 5th overall pick. They need a WR in round 2. Grand Rapids-2006 State Runner Up

pathetichockeyfollower · Mon Apr 17, 2006 3:16 pm

I agree with you boblee on Hawk. However I might be thinking about taking a RB with the 2nd pick. They diefinately need alot more help then just two positions. I think either way they need to take Hawk 1st round and then either WR or RB. "my wife tells me I am pathetic with how much high school hockey I go to."

ae42 · Post by **ae42** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 6:21 pm

The Vikes need to get a quarterback or Laurence Maroney.

koren808 · Post by **koren808** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 6:12 am

I would take Sims at 18 UNLESS Cutler was available there. I would not trade up to get him because he isn't worth trading up for. In the second, with Sims, I would target getting an OG and a CB/S type. My ideal players there would be OG Davin Joseph and Ashton Youboty (if he falls). In the third, if he is there with our first 3rd round pick, draft QB Omar Jacobs. If he is gone, I would not draft a QB. I would wait until next year to draft one, because Croyle and Whitehurst are not the answer. The rest of the way its best player available.

ae42 · Post by **ae42** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 4:15 pm

Thank you Mel Kiper.

koren808 · Post by **koren808** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 6:38 pm

If you couldn't tell, I am obsessed with the NFL Draft. Here are some interesting news/rumors coming from one site. It involoves us in discussion with Houston for the #1 pick. <a href="http://www.nfldraftalmanac.com/index.php?c=2&a=619" target="top">www.nfldraftalmanac.com/index.php?c=2&a ...

Blue Breeze · Post by **Blue Breeze** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 6:41 pm

Interesting tidbit about Schaub potentially being dealt to the Vikes on draft day. Although he has seen limited action, I am very high on Matt Schaub, and although we need LB help badly a QB is vital.

State Champ 97 · Post by **State Champ 97** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 12:30 pm

I agree. It would be a lot easier to find a good LB in the later rounds than a QB. While Schaub is only semi-proven, he is a good athlete and impressed me a lot last year.

koren808 · Post by **koren808** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 7:28 am

If either Sims or Cutler are not available at #17, then I would do the trade. The Vikes will do the trade if that scenario happened.

Blue Breeze · Post by **Blue Breeze** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 9:38 am

It would be hard to pass on Sims were he available, he is the ideal fit for the new Cover 2 Scheme, and linebacker has been a major area of need the last couple years. Greenway would also be tough to pass up. I think Childress has his eyes on adding Schaub with the expectation that he become our starter, and he won't hesitate to make a big move: See Culpepper for a 2nd rounder.

ae42 · Post by **ae42** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 10:22 am

Does anyone know if the Vikings decided to get some LB or CB help this year are there any good QBs who will be in the 2007 draft?

Blue Breeze · Post by **Blue Breeze** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 10:53 am

They signed Ben Leber in hopes that he would improve the linebacking corps. They are still looking for corners as they lack depth after Smoot and Winfield with the departure of Brian Williams. In the '07 draft Brady Quinn will be the top prospect followed by Drew Stanton and Troy Smith. Quinn will go high but the others might be more in the Vikings range.

koren808 · Post by **koren808** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 11:52 am

Forget Quinn, Stanton, and Smith. The QB I want next year is Brian Brohm out of Louisville. He will be the best QB next year in college, and will be the best out of that draft class.

ae42 · Post by **ae42** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 8:06 pm

Brohm should be solid, Quinn isn't good at all, but none of those QBs strike me as superstars

koren808 · Post by **koren808** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 9:03 pm

I made a mock draft: 1. HOU- Reggie Bush, RB, USC 2. NO- Mario Williams, DE, NC St. 3. TEN- Matt Leinart, QB, USC 4. NYJ- D’Brickashaw Ferguson, OT, Virginia 5. GB- A.J. Hawk, LB, Ohio St. 6. SF- Vernon Davis, TE, Maryland 7. OAK- Vince Young, QB, Texas 8. BUF- Haloti Ngata, DT, Oregon 9. DET- Michael Huff, S, Texas 10. ARZ- Winston Justice, OT, USC 11. STL- Jimmy Williams, CB, Virginia Tech 12. CLE- Manny Lawson, DE/LB, NC St. 13. BAL- Brodrick Bunkley, DT, Florida St. 14. PHI- Ernie Sims, LB, Florida St. 15. DEN- Chad Jackson, WR, Florida 16. MIA- Donte Whitner, S, Ohio St. 17. MIN- Jay Cutler, QB, Vanderbilt 18. DAL- Jason Allen, S, Tennessee 19. SD- Santonio Holmes, WR, Ohio St. 20. KC- Tye Hill, CB, Clemson 21. NE- Antonio Cromartie, CB, Florida St. 22. SF- Kamerion Wimbley, DE/LB, Florida St. 23. TB- Jonathan Joseph, CB, South Carolina 24. CIN- Leonard Pope, TE, Georgia 25. NYG- Chad Greenway, LB, Iowa 26. CHI- Marcedes Lewis, TE, UCLA 27. CAR- DeAngelo Williams, RB, Memphis 28. JAX- Bobby Carpenter, LB, Ohio St. 29. NYJ- Nick Mangold, C, Ohio St. 30. IND- Laurence Maroney, RB, Minnesota 31. SEA- Kelly Jennings, CB, Miami 32. PIT- Sinorice Moss, WR, Miami

koren808 · Post by **koren808** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 9:25 pm

I also made my perfect draft for the Vikings. Its realistic yet gets a lot of quality at need positions: 1. Jay Cutler, QB, Vanderbilt 2a. Roger McIntosh, LB, Miami 2b. Davin Joseph, G, Oklahoma 3a. Greg Eslinger, C, Minnesota 3b. Devin Hester, CB, Miami 4. Greg Jennings, WR, West. Michigan 5. A.J. Nicholson, LB, Florida St. 6. Frostee Rucker, DE, USC

Blue Breeze · Post by **Blue Breeze** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 10:14 pm

That covers a lot of needs, although I don't know if Jennings is going to fall to the 4th, though I hope he does. Joseph would complete the O-Line, and Hester has a lot of potential although he did not play well last year. Eslinger would bring depth and be the heir to Matt Birk's position. I still think the pick goes towards either Sims or Greenway or gets traded for Matt Schaub.

boblee · Post by **boblee** » Wed Apr 26, 2006 9:23 pm

Texas offer boblee a contract. 12 years for $42 billion! <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"> Grand Rapids-2006 State Runner Up

sterfry9 · Post by **sterfry9** » Wed Apr 26, 2006 10:03 pm

does anyone think eslinger could be a premier center in the nfl? he was really good in college but what do you people think

Blue Breeze · Post by **Blue Breeze** » Wed Apr 26, 2006 10:17 pm

I think he can be a very good center. He is undervalued right now because he had some poor scores in tests that really don't tell that much about a player to begin with. He dominated the O-Line for the Gophers for 4 years against some pretty good D-lineman. I think he will be a starter for somebody for about a decade.

boblee · Post by **boblee** » Thu Apr 27, 2006 6:06 am

The Texans confess to either picking Reggie Bush or Mario Williams with the first pick... Grand Rapids-2006 State Runner Up

boblee · Post by **boblee** » Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:59 am

Boblee's mock draft 1. Texans-Reggie Bush (USC) RB 2. Saints-Mario Williams (NCSU) DE 3. Tennesse-Vince Young (Texas) QB 4. New York Jets-Jay Cutler (Vandy) QB 5. Green Bay-A.J. Hawk (OSU) LB 6. San Francisco-D'Brickashaw Ferguson (Vir) OT 7. Oakland-Matt Leinart (USC) QB 8. Buffalo-Michael Huff (Texas) DT 9. Detroit-Haloti Gnata (Oregon) DT 10. Arizona-Vernon Davis (Mayland) TE 11. St. Louis-Winston Justice (USC) OT 12. Cleveland-Brodrick Bunkley (FSU) DT 13. Baltimore-Kamerion Wimbley (FSU) DE 14. Philadelphia-Santonio Holmes (OSU) WR 15. Denver-Ernie Sims (FSU) LB 16. Miami-Chad Greenway (Iowa) LB 17. Minnesota-DeAngelo Williams (Mem) RB 18. Dallas-Jimmy Williams (VT) DB 19. San Diego-Donte Whitner (OSU) S 20. Kansas City-Johnathan Joseph (SC) CB 21. New England-Manny Lawson (NCSU) DE 22. San Fransisco-Antonio Cromartie (FSU) CB 23. Tampa Bay-Bobby Carpenter (OSU) LB 24. Cincinatti-Tye Hill (Clem) DB 25. New York Giants-Sinorice Moss (Mia) WR 26. Chicago-Ashton Youboty (OSU) CB 27. Carolina-Greg Eslinger (Min) C 28. Jacksonville-Thomas Howard (UTEP) LB 29. New York Jets-Nick Mangold (FSU) C 30. Indianapolis-Laurence Maroney (Min) RB 31. Seattle-Kelly Jennings (Mia) CB 32. Pittsburgh-LenDale White Grand Rapids-2006 State Runner Up

Blue Breeze · Post by **Blue Breeze** » Thu Apr 27, 2006 6:03 pm

1-Texans-Reggie Bush (RB, Southern California) 2-Saints-D'Brickashaw Ferguson (OT, Virginia) 3-Titans-Matt Leinart (QB, Southern California) 4-Jets-Vince Young (QB, Texas) 5-Packers-A.J Hawk (LB, Ohio State) 6-49ers-Mario Williams (DE, North Carolina State) 7-Raiders-Vernon Davis (TE, Maryland) 8-Bills-Haloti Ngata (DT, Oregon) 9-Lions-Michael Huff (CB-S, Texas) 10-Cardinals-Winston Justice (OT, Southern California) 11-Rams-Jimmy Williams (CB, Virginia Tech) 12-Browns-Kamerion Wimbley (DE, Florida State) 13-Ravens-Manny Lawson (LB-DE, North Carolina State) 14-Eagles-Santonio Holmes (WR, Ohio State) 15-Broncos-DeAngelo Williams (RB, Memphis) 16-Dolphins-Chad Jackson (WR, Florida) 17-Vikings-Jay Cutler (QB, Vanderbilt) 18-Cowboys-Ernie Sims (LB, Florida State) 19-Chargers-Anthonie Cromartie (CB, Florida State) 20-Chiefs-Chad Greenway (LB, Iowa) 21-Patriots-Jonathan Joseph (CB, South Carolina) 22-49ers-Donte Whitner (S, Ohio State) 23-Buccaneers-Jason Allen (S, Tennessee) 24-Bengals-Tye Hill (CB, Clemson) 25-Giants-Richard Marshall (CB, Fresno State) 26-Bears-Sinorice Moss (WR, Miami) 27-Panthers-Laurence Maroney (RB, Minnesota) 28-Jaguars-LenDale White (RB, Southern California) 29-Jets-Bobby Carpenter (LB, Ohio State) 30-Colts-DeMeco Ryans (LB, Alabama) 31-Seahawks-Kelly Jennings (CB, Miami) 32-Steelers-Eric Winston (OT, Miami)

koren808 · Post by **koren808** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 6:11 am

Most of both of your drafts are pretty good, but there are some trouble spots in them both. boblee- Cutler will not go #4. It is my belief that teams are overhyping him so some team trades up (like the Vikings) and takes him. The other main problem I see is at the end of the first with your back to back to back picks of Youboty, Eslinger and Howard. Youboty and Howard have a slight chance at getting drafted in the first, but no way Eslinger does. Blue Breeze- I only have one problem with your draft, and that is Mario falling to 6. If I was Casserly (Texans GM), I would take him over Bush at #1 because DE is so much more of a need than RB. Those who say Bush gets more value because he is a return man? They have Jerome Mathis, who was a Pro Bowl return man last year as a rookie. Otherwise pretty good.

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