Youth programs with no A team

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mnwild14
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Youth programs with no A team

Post by mnwild14 »

I know this has been discussed before but it is tough to find the information.<br><br>Can a youth program with no A team compete in the state tournament for B teams? I think the answer is yes. Also what requires an association to go from B teams to A teams? <p></p><i></i>
hawkfan70
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just wait

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OnFrozenPond
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Re: Youth programs with no A team

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PlayMaker12
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No A Team

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Back when I played "B" PeeWee We thought this was unfair when we got matched up aginst a "B" team with no "A" team and they won, which they usually should. Considering that they have some players who should be playing "A", but we felt kinda like cheated out of a win. Also if they play in the "B" league they will be unprepared for when they have to play high school hockey aginst more experienced teams. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p100.ezboard.com/bmnhs.showUserP ... Maker12</A> at: 3/20/06 1:58 pm<br></i>
tjhd5
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b teams

Post by tjhd5 »

Maybe one has to look at this from a different view point. Since none of these teams won or even got to the finals in the state tournament, maybe the huge associations should start fielding two A teams. Are they doing justice to their kids by only fielding one A team. For all of you that complain about losing to a team that doesnt field an A team. start complaining about this. Until these teams that dont field an A team get to the finals in the state you dont have a leg to stand on. <p></p><i></i>
mnwild14
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B teams

Post by mnwild14 »

I personally am part of an association of only B teams. But would love to see them change that and we are currently pushing the issue with some resistance. Any help on ideas on how to get them to make the change would be wonderful. For the most part it slows down the A players on the team, but it also doesn't force the weaker players to step up and play at the higher level. <br><br>Bantam B State -- 3 of 8 no A team (Best 3rd Place)<br>Peewee B State -- 1 of 8 no A team<br><br>Unsure of ratio at districts. <p></p><i></i>
PlayMaker12
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No A team

Post by PlayMaker12 »

Acually if you have an "A" team and your "B" team is doin well all the better for your association, I could care less. That would be perfectly fair, but if you don't have and "A" and you are winning and beating other "B" teams that is what I think is unfair. <p></p><i></i>
Dr Philly
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Re: No A team

Post by Dr Philly »

I have noticed that from some of these posting that playing "B" hockey and having no"A" team is being done to fill the parents dreams of winning championships through their children. There have been some people who say give every player a trophy at the beginning of the season and if the player doesn't think he deserves it give it back at the end of the season. Bet not one trophy would be returned. Mandatory If an association does not have an "A" team no participantion in the play-offs. I have seen associations with 12 players at a level and win one game during the season and come play-off time win the play-offs and go to the regionals. It is time for Minnesota Hockey to take a step forward and start being the leader in the country like it use to be not follower. <p></p><i></i>
tunavich
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Re: No A team

Post by tunavich »

From the way I understand the way things are here in Minnesota if you don't field an "A" team but play be and dominate that the district should move that team to "A" as soon as they see this team in "B" beating everyone. I would purpose if you don't have an "A" and dominate the "B" level which you chose to put a given team your should not be allowed to paricipate in the regional and should be sanctioned for not playing fair. <p></p><i></i>
Crazy7s
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Re: No A team

Post by Crazy7s »

All the teams out there that play "B" just to have a better chance at going to a state tournament and don't have an "A" team and have records that indicate they should have been an "A" team should be repremended and should not be allowed to attend the play-offs. To many teams are starting to go "B" because they want to go to the state tournament. Where are the District presidents and reps that let this happen.(MINNESOTA HOCKEY) <p></p><i></i>
TyrellFashizo
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Re: No A team

Post by TyrellFashizo »

You are right crazy<br><br>When there was only A level state tournaments, there was a reason to play up at A level. Teams that played only B, lost out. I'm going to Take my A team to the B level from now on. If we can go win state, why not?<br><br> <p>"Coach'n ain't easy" </p><i></i>
inowitall
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Re: No A team

Post by inowitall »

Where do you coach? I agree with you 100%. <p></p><i></i>
big7stars
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Re: No A team

Post by big7stars »

No "A" travel team no "B" playoffs. <p></p><i></i>
March1111Madness
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Re: No A team

Post by March1111Madness »

I agree that Associations should field an A team. However, there are times when it does make sense not to have an A team. Now calm down everyone....Our association does field A teams at all levels and it's extremely unlikely to ever change for about 700 reasons. I do think that there are times when Associations simply don't have the skill level to compete at an A level. Most likely, this is due to the number of players at a level or the Association being new. If a team is playing at the B level to win a state title, the leadership of that association is short sighted. If a team is playing at a B level because that's where they belong, regardless of whether they have an A team, they should be entitled to fully participate. Frankly, some of the posts on this topic seem to come from a bunch of whiners. So what if your team did or didn't go to state. In a year, the kids won't even remember..they'll remember whether they had fun or not. <p></p><i></i>
pwrsk8
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Re: No A team

Post by pwrsk8 »

Question? the associations that have an A team but are also fielding 2 B teams - one of which is a dominant team in the state (ie. wayzata, Eden Prairie, Edina) shouldn't they be forced to field 2 A teams then? Or doesn't some of you whinners theory apply to this situation? <p></p><i></i>
big7stars
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Re: No A team

Post by big7stars »

Large associations are not the problem here it is places like Como in the city league. I know they don't have alot of players but the players they have come from all over and then the play like this year B pee wee's and win the league, and the district. When they got to regions they found out that the large associations solved the problem for Minnesota Hockey by beating them. But what if they would have won. It was not right just so they could kick butt on the teams in there district. Where are the district reps on these situations? <p></p><i></i>
ice00breaker
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Re: No A team

Post by ice00breaker »

I almost think it should be a district decision. For example, the Como Peewee B Team Did outstanding in TC district, but they couldnt make it to states. They only won one game. If Highland, Johnson, etc. had no A team, then they might be able to make a run at states. Its not fair for other teams in the same district when they have to, in effect play an A team <p></p><i></i>
big7stars
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Re: No A team

Post by big7stars »

The problems are that no one has the guts to make a decision anymore. Just for an example look at your work place no decision is made for fear of making the wrong one so nothing is done.I know District reps will not make the decision do to the repurcussions. <p></p><i></i>
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