"No offense, your observation of association hockey is not accurate............sorry. If it is in your association, you seem like a proactive person.......help fix it. If you don't like it............go away. The Wisconsin Fire is just over the river"...
I don't have any cloudy vision of anything..I was referencing those that are choosing MM over their association...if you read what I wrote correctly. Just to clarify.
New in-house mite program
Moderators: Mitch Hawker, east hockey, karl(east)
Unfullfilled parental dreams is my opinion ......in search of the hockey holy grail.BoogeyMan wrote:
It makes you wonder why so many kids want to skate with MM versus their local associations?
the letters sent out by D. N. and the letter content he used and you often reference almost identically certainly wasn't supportive of volunteers. Glad you changed your opinion. Well done.
Re: rrr
Thanks for the clarification. You seem like a reasonable person.jancze5 wrote:"No offense, your observation of association hockey is not accurate............sorry. If it is in your association, you seem like a proactive person.......help fix it. If you don't like it............go away. The Wisconsin Fire is just over the river"...
I don't have any cloudy vision of anything..I was referencing those that are choosing MM over their association...if you read what I wrote correctly. Just to clarify.
I am guessing some, but not all MM Mite parents are not familiar with what goes on in their association. Some cloudy vision may exist.
TN,
Where do your kids play soccer? I'm sure you did the right thing and supported your local city soccer association. After all your critical comments. I really hope you took the fun approach with your coach.
This is where I get confused
I found out you were the Vice President - Competition Wow! I thought you would be President of fun? I'm starting to worry about you soccer parents. I don't think you're taking the right approach.
Q: Are you affiliated with CAA, Chaska Park & Rec or Chan Park & Rec?
A: No,
CC United operates independently of these organizations under the direction the CC United Board and with the help of two employees - one full-time Director of Coaching and one full-time Club Administrator. The club relies on many volunteers as well as sponsorships and fundraising.
Q: What does your program include?
A: Our program includes summer recreational and competitive soccer programs as well as a fall competitive program.
Q: What’s the difference between recreational and traveling soccer?
A: Our summer recreational soccer program includes 1,200 youth, ages 4-13 for both boys and girls. The season typically runs May through July (8-weeks) and consists of one practice and one game per week. The summer competitive program includes 400 youth, ages 8-19 for both boys and girls. The season begins in February with indoor preseason training and runs through late July. Teams compete against West Metro Area teams within the Minnesota Youth Soccer Association (MYSA). These teams generally practice/play 2-4 times per week and compete in 2-3 tournaments during the summer. Teams are coached by licensed coaches who focus on both age appropriate technical and tactical instruction as directed by the Director of Coaching to further player development.
I thought the kids cold learn in the streets of Brazil or the villages of Africa?
Q: Do you have anything in the winter?
A: There are training opportunities in the winter through clinics facilitated by the Director of Coaching from January to March. Traveling coaches may also work independently with their respective teams.
Where do your kids play soccer? I'm sure you did the right thing and supported your local city soccer association. After all your critical comments. I really hope you took the fun approach with your coach.
This is where I get confused
I found out you were the Vice President - Competition Wow! I thought you would be President of fun? I'm starting to worry about you soccer parents. I don't think you're taking the right approach.Q: Are you affiliated with CAA, Chaska Park & Rec or Chan Park & Rec?
A: No,
CC United operates independently of these organizations under the direction the CC United Board and with the help of two employees - one full-time Director of Coaching and one full-time Club Administrator. The club relies on many volunteers as well as sponsorships and fundraising.Q: What does your program include?
A: Our program includes summer recreational and competitive soccer programs as well as a fall competitive program.
Q: What’s the difference between recreational and traveling soccer?
A: Our summer recreational soccer program includes 1,200 youth, ages 4-13 for both boys and girls. The season typically runs May through July (8-weeks) and consists of one practice and one game per week. The summer competitive program includes 400 youth, ages 8-19 for both boys and girls. The season begins in February with indoor preseason training and runs through late July. Teams compete against West Metro Area teams within the Minnesota Youth Soccer Association (MYSA). These teams generally practice/play 2-4 times per week and compete in 2-3 tournaments during the summer. Teams are coached by licensed coaches who focus on both age appropriate technical and tactical instruction as directed by the Director of Coaching to further player development.
I thought the kids cold learn in the streets of Brazil or the villages of Africa?
Q: Do you have anything in the winter?
A: There are training opportunities in the winter through clinics facilitated by the Director of Coaching from January to March. Traveling coaches may also work independently with their respective teams.
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Conditionally
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to begin with your information is extremly old - update your sourcesBoogeyMan wrote:TN,
Where do your kids play soccer? I'm sure you did the right thing and supported your local city soccer association. After all your critical comments. I really hope you took the fun approach with your coach.
This is where I get confused
Q: Are you affiliated with CAA, Chaska Park & Rec or Chan Park & Rec?
A: No,
Q: What does your program include?
A: Our program includes summer recreational and competitive soccer programs as well as a fall competitive program.
Q: What’s the difference between recreational and traveling soccer?
A: Our summer recreational soccer program includes 1,200 youth, ages 4-13 for both boys and girls. The season typically runs May through July (8-weeks) and consists of one practice and one game per week. The summer competitive program includes 400 youth, ages 8-19 for both boys and girls. The season begins in February with indoor preseason training and runs through late July. Teams compete against West Metro Area teams within the Minnesota Youth Soccer Association (MYSA). These teams generally practice/play 2-4 times per week and compete in 2-3 tournaments during the summer. Teams are coached by licensed coaches who focus on both age appropriate technical and tactical instruction as directed by the Director of Coaching to further player development.
I thought the kids cold learn in the streets of Brazil or the villages of Africa?
Q: Do you have anything in the winter?
A: There are training opportunities in the winter through clinics facilitated by the Director of Coaching from January to March. Traveling coaches may also work independently with their respective teams.
I served in every single role on the soccer board over the last 12 years and fun was part of everyone of them. I have been removed from the board for over a year now.
two - before my kids were even involved in the soccer club I was refereeing for free, mentoring referees for free, coaching teams for free, lining fields for free, basically I was giving back into the sport that I love and was so good to me. Fact of the matter is I spent well over $3500 of my own money to obtain all the soccer coaching licenses I have and I was doing it for the improvement of the community program known as CC United.
And now that my kids are done with soccer, guess what I am doing - giving back to my community club in the same manner as stated above.
What have you done for youth athletics besides opening your purse and your ignorant yap??? Go play your MM no one is saying you can't but we are allowed our opinion of why we think some parents might be.
YOU DON"T UNDERSTAND THE STATE SOCCER ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE- All Community Soccer Clubs are set -up in the very same format. Comparing any community soccer club to the city's parks and rec program is so foolish. So the skating programs the city of Chaska offers and the Hockey assocaition can be compared too? I doubt many would buy into that argument which is the same you are making for soccer.
So the invite is once again out for you to sit down and be tutored so you do not continue to make yourself look foolish in not understanding the state soccer structure.
TN would be me - Boogey likes to believe that knowing who I am makes me uncomfortable or bothers me.Conditionally wrote:Boogeyman, where did you get your information from concerning the soccer program? Who or what is TN?
He doesn't know me very well.
My moniker takes my first name and combines it with what I can be when I want to.
he is cutting and pasting it off the CCunited web site but he fails to go and look at the MYSA web site and see the hundreds of community clubs all doing the same programming. Seems funny that he and/or his friend would be willing to send letters out to most of the hockey associations regarding mite program costs but unwilling to do his homework regarding soccer. Lack of the facts is what he is basing his points on.
Conditionally, since Boogeyman refuses to get together for beers to discuss this more indepth (the meeting I was willing to include you in) my invitation remains open to you.
That comes from ChanMan = BoogeyMan = HumptyDumptyMan who had a great fall?
Bruising of the brain is nothing to laugh about I have read where permenant brain damage can occur when the mellon is impacted severely. Incoherent rants and raves can follow and may last forever. Amnesia may set in followed by rapid moniker changes 
Bruising of the brain is nothing to laugh about
I have read where permenant brain damage can occur when the mellon is impacted severely. Incoherent rants and raves can follow and may last forever. Amnesia may set in followed by rapid moniker changes that was my belief too when my PM invitation to explain things was not responded to. Just in case I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt.breakout wrote:That comes from ChanMan = BoogeyMan = HumptyDumptyMan who had a great fall?
I would have to go back and look but believe all of conditional's 6 posts are very shortly after a Boogey post. If conditional was not the same person, I would think he would take me up on my offer of beers.
I know I never turn down a freebie
If allegations are so, any man that has that many email adresses to use to gain additional monikers should also have a suspicious wife but maybe that's just me??
Breakout- Wrong person! Nice try. Try again. Poor effort. You can do better. Let me ask you something? Do you know this coach who fell? I do. This guy almost died volunteering in his community. This guy has done nothing but give his time and effort too. Why would you take cheap shots at someone who almost died coaching hockey? You might have to get your character checked.
Conditionally- TN is a man who grew up loving the game of soccer. He felt the need to give back to the game he loved. He even paid $3500 dollars to get certified to be a referee. If you ask me that's a lot of money to spend on youth sports. It makes my $895.00 for the MM league look like pocket change.
TN has a hard time understanding why parents want to spend a lot of money for their 7-8 year old kids to play hockey. But has a good reason to spend a fair amount of money for youth soccer. In his eyes we the parents are making a great mistake. He's knows youth sports, he lives youth sports, He might be youth sports. Did you know if you look up youth sports in the dictionary it would refer to TN?
After some research. I found out that CC United a local youth soccer association. Offers kids recreational soccer league and a traveling soccer league for the same aged kids. I'm trying to put two and two together. For the same reasons he's ripping on MM. The CC United program offers the same things. Keep in mind that he's associated with this program. Most importantly, don't forget that his city offers their own soccer league. (Chaska Park & Rec) TN often preaches giving back to the city and the community. He also stresses the importance of kids having fun.
He once was quoted saying: kids can learn in the streets of Brazil or the villages of Africa?
His point is kids don't need anything special. I'm wondering if his kids supported the local soccer association (Chaska Park & Rec) or did they play in this advanced program?
After all, why do kids at this age need advanced training. When I researched this advanced program I noticed that the traveling teams received indoor training, more games, practices and traveled to play tourneys.
I'm trying to figure out why CC United is Ok? But MM is not Ok?
tomASS Please don't take this personally. You cannot continue to come on here thinking you know more than the next guy. Who are you to be critical of an organization when you a part of the same thing. Please spare me on the getting together to explain your side. What side?
Fact is, I have no doubt in my mind that you spent more money putting your kids through the advanced program versus playing and supporting your local league.
I'm not here to question where, how often, or how much you pay. That's your personal business. If playing CC united advanced soccer was your choice. Great! I hope your kids had fun.
Please refrain yourself from future comments about how we the parents are going to learn the hard way. As much as you are critical of MM. I can throw the CC United back in your face. I find it interesting that your only come back? Let's meet sometime so I can explain why. Please feel free to explain on this forum. After all we're talking youth sports and youth hockey. I'm sure some people would love to hear your side. Why waste time and gas meeting when we have the perfect forum right here?
For all of you that waste your time reading this crud. I'm sorry! I feel the need to set this guy straight. I think it's great that he spends endless hours, energy and money for this youth soccer association. I feel he has no right to be critical.
I wish all your kids luck this winter. If you feel the need to teach your kids in the back yard, garage, local association, MM, Canada, Finland or the Moon. Good luck!
PEACE!
Conditionally- TN is a man who grew up loving the game of soccer. He felt the need to give back to the game he loved. He even paid $3500 dollars to get certified to be a referee. If you ask me that's a lot of money to spend on youth sports. It makes my $895.00 for the MM league look like pocket change.
TN has a hard time understanding why parents want to spend a lot of money for their 7-8 year old kids to play hockey. But has a good reason to spend a fair amount of money for youth soccer. In his eyes we the parents are making a great mistake. He's knows youth sports, he lives youth sports, He might be youth sports. Did you know if you look up youth sports in the dictionary it would refer to TN?
After some research. I found out that CC United a local youth soccer association. Offers kids recreational soccer league and a traveling soccer league for the same aged kids. I'm trying to put two and two together. For the same reasons he's ripping on MM. The CC United program offers the same things. Keep in mind that he's associated with this program. Most importantly, don't forget that his city offers their own soccer league. (Chaska Park & Rec) TN often preaches giving back to the city and the community. He also stresses the importance of kids having fun.
He once was quoted saying: kids can learn in the streets of Brazil or the villages of Africa?
His point is kids don't need anything special. I'm wondering if his kids supported the local soccer association (Chaska Park & Rec) or did they play in this advanced program?
After all, why do kids at this age need advanced training. When I researched this advanced program I noticed that the traveling teams received indoor training, more games, practices and traveled to play tourneys.
I'm trying to figure out why CC United is Ok? But MM is not Ok?
tomASS Please don't take this personally. You cannot continue to come on here thinking you know more than the next guy. Who are you to be critical of an organization when you a part of the same thing. Please spare me on the getting together to explain your side. What side?
Fact is, I have no doubt in my mind that you spent more money putting your kids through the advanced program versus playing and supporting your local league.
I'm not here to question where, how often, or how much you pay. That's your personal business. If playing CC united advanced soccer was your choice. Great! I hope your kids had fun.
Please refrain yourself from future comments about how we the parents are going to learn the hard way. As much as you are critical of MM. I can throw the CC United back in your face. I find it interesting that your only come back? Let's meet sometime so I can explain why. Please feel free to explain on this forum. After all we're talking youth sports and youth hockey. I'm sure some people would love to hear your side. Why waste time and gas meeting when we have the perfect forum right here?
For all of you that waste your time reading this crud. I'm sorry! I feel the need to set this guy straight. I think it's great that he spends endless hours, energy and money for this youth soccer association. I feel he has no right to be critical.
I wish all your kids luck this winter. If you feel the need to teach your kids in the back yard, garage, local association, MM, Canada, Finland or the Moon. Good luck!
PEACE!
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I feel very bad for the MM coaches and staff that will have to put up with ChanBoogey.
It is only a matter of time before he considers MM to be inferior, not very well run, to competitive, or whatever. It's people like this that complain, complain, complain, complain and will never be satisfied.
All of the people in ChanBoogey's association should be clapping their hands that they won't have to deal with this pain in the butt anymore.
PEACE - OUT
It is only a matter of time before he considers MM to be inferior, not very well run, to competitive, or whatever. It's people like this that complain, complain, complain, complain and will never be satisfied.
All of the people in ChanBoogey's association should be clapping their hands that they won't have to deal with this pain in the butt anymore.
PEACE - OUT
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Speedskater- Ouch! Actually I have no problems with anyone in our association.
Just like 11 other families from our association. I chose plan "B" this year. Is there a problem with that? To each his own. Right?
Our youth association is non-profit organization. They won't skip a beat missing 12 kids. They still have the numbers. I wish them luck. They have a lot of dedicated, hard working people. The program is on the rise. Only good things can happen.
I do have to admit. I'm wondering if the metro youth hockey associations are taking notice of MM? Are there any potential changes in the works?
PEACE!
Just like 11 other families from our association. I chose plan "B" this year. Is there a problem with that? To each his own. Right?
Our youth association is non-profit organization. They won't skip a beat missing 12 kids. They still have the numbers. I wish them luck. They have a lot of dedicated, hard working people. The program is on the rise. Only good things can happen.
I do have to admit. I'm wondering if the metro youth hockey associations are taking notice of MM? Are there any potential changes in the works?
PEACE!
The Eagle has landed ( to those in the know)greybeard58 wrote:I feel enough had been said on this subject. If some want to comtinue to fight with each other please take it outside. Enough is enough.
Maybe Lee should put the lock on.
Grey beard - I have suggested that numerous time
Boogeyman - you will never get it, CC United is not an advanced program it is a community club like the one in Edina, EP, Wayzata, Tonka, Hopkins, Mound, Bloomington, Plymouth, etc, etc, etc
very doltish though process and so called research on your part.
Learn to read - My out of pocket expense was for COACHING LICENSES which are expensive and hard to earn It was me spending money on me so the kids could benefit free of charge. Where is the comparison there?
"tomASS Please don't take this personally. You cannot continue to come on here thinking you know more than the next guy. Who are you to be critical of an organization when you a part of the same thing. Please spare me on the getting together to explain your side. What side?
Fact is, I have no doubt in my mind that you spent more money putting your kids through the advanced program versus playing and supporting your local league"
I'm just shaking my head at your lunacy of logic. You are so mis-stating the the facts
What a coward - you didn't show up when the hockey board invited you and/or Dan to discuss the situation you created in the association Their intent was for you to get the real information so you could digest the real facts. Can you say, NO SHOW?" sure ya can.
Same situation here. This is habitual with you. mis-state facts and refuse to discuss off-line like a real adult. Very cowardly way of doing business for an adult.
In regard to the guy who couldn't skate, fell, and smacked his mellon - He also was the one that verbally attacked the volunteer coaches as incompetent coaches and shouldn't be training his son. These are the same coaches that pooled together money to help the family of this "victim"
LEE LOCK IT UP!
Speed skater has it right with the addition that
no kid should have to pay for the sins of his father.
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TomAss:tomASS wrote:The Eagle has landed ( to those in the know)greybeard58 wrote:I feel enough had been said on this subject. If some want to comtinue to fight with each other please take it outside. Enough is enough.
Maybe Lee should put the lock on.
Grey beard - I have suggested that numerous time
Boogeyman - you will never get it, CC United is not an advanced program it is a community club like the one in Edina, EP, Wayzata, Tonka, Hopkins, Mound, Bloomington, Plymouth, etc, etc, etc
very doltish though process and so called research on your part.
Learn to read - My out of pocket expense was for COACHING LICENSES which are expensive and hard to earn It was me spending money on me so the kids could benefit free of charge. Where is the comparison there?
"tomASS Please don't take this personally. You cannot continue to come on here thinking you know more than the next guy. Who are you to be critical of an organization when you a part of the same thing. Please spare me on the getting together to explain your side. What side?
Fact is, I have no doubt in my mind that you spent more money putting your kids through the advanced program versus playing and supporting your local league"
I'm just shaking my head at your lunacy of logic. You are so mis-stating the the facts
What a coward - you didn't show up when the hockey board invited you and/or Dan to discuss the situation you created in the association Their intent was for you to get the real information so you could digest the real facts. Can you say, NO SHOW?" sure ya can.
Same situation here. This is habitual with you. mis-state facts and refuse to discuss off-line like a real adult. Very cowardly way of doing business for an adult.
In regard to the guy who couldn't skate, fell, and smacked his mellon - He also was the one that verbally attacked the volunteer coaches as incompetent coaches and shouldn't be training his son. These are the same coaches that pooled together money to help the family of this "victim"
LEE LOCK IT UP!
Speed skater has it right with the addition that
no kid should have to pay for the sins of his father.
Have you ever verbally attacked volunteer youth coaches?
tomASS,
There's snow on the mountain tops. (for you in the know )
Take a deep breath. Please answer my questions.
If your local city offers a youth soccer program. According to past posts. You're kids are in it for the fun factor. Why isn't that league good enough for your kids?
Soccer can be played on the streets of Brazil or the villages of Africa.
If you truely want to support your local program. Why have your kids play in the CC United program? What happened to kids this age need to have fun? Then you turn around and place your kids on advanced traveling teams.
I realize that the CC United are a local program. Fact is they do offer advanced programs. What happened to you supporting the Chaska rec league? I'm surprised to see you're choosing plan "B" over plan "A".
Here's my thought. Please correct me if I'm wrong:
The CC United is an elite program when you compare it to your other choice. Remember you preach that parents should support their local city league. There is no sense on spending more money for advanced programs.
I can promise you that you paid more money for the CC United than supporting your local soccer league. There is no doubt that you signed your kids up to play in the CC United because you personally feel that it's a better program. It's more expensive, the kids get better instruction, they kids get more practices, the kids get more games, the kids get off season indoor training and the kids get to travel to play in tourneys.
I'm fine with all this. I'm happy for you and your family. You had a choice to make and chose to take plan "B". I had a choice to make and I chose plan "B".
Should we be happy for each other? Or do you want to continue to put parents down for the same things you do?
Why can't you accept that we the parents are doing what's best for our kids? You did! Why can't I?
As for locking up this post. Why? As long as we're talking about youth sports or youth hockey in general this should be acceptable. I agree as long as you continue to take cheap shots at me. I will reply. I did email you and asked that the non-sense stops. I was really hoping that we could tone it down a bit. It worked for about a day. Then you started pushing buttons again.
As for the coach that fractured his skull. I did help support him and his family financially. I've never seen him do anything but give to the kids. I know he's signed his teams up to play at Mariucci and Excel during Gopher and Wild games. Before his accident he was a coach in his association. I'm not quite sure if he has plans on supporting it in the future. As far as I know he might help out this year. I do know that he's chosen not to skate ever again. I'm not sure why you want to be critical of someone who almost died. Do you even know him? Or are you judge and jury?
PEACE!
There's snow on the mountain tops. (for you in the know
)Take a deep breath. Please answer my questions.
If your local city offers a youth soccer program. According to past posts. You're kids are in it for the fun factor. Why isn't that league good enough for your kids?
Soccer can be played on the streets of Brazil or the villages of Africa.
If you truely want to support your local program. Why have your kids play in the CC United program? What happened to kids this age need to have fun? Then you turn around and place your kids on advanced traveling teams.
I realize that the CC United are a local program. Fact is they do offer advanced programs. What happened to you supporting the Chaska rec league? I'm surprised to see you're choosing plan "B" over plan "A".
Here's my thought. Please correct me if I'm wrong:
The CC United is an elite program when you compare it to your other choice. Remember you preach that parents should support their local city league. There is no sense on spending more money for advanced programs.
I can promise you that you paid more money for the CC United than supporting your local soccer league. There is no doubt that you signed your kids up to play in the CC United because you personally feel that it's a better program. It's more expensive, the kids get better instruction, they kids get more practices, the kids get more games, the kids get off season indoor training and the kids get to travel to play in tourneys.
I'm fine with all this. I'm happy for you and your family. You had a choice to make and chose to take plan "B". I had a choice to make and I chose plan "B".
Should we be happy for each other? Or do you want to continue to put parents down for the same things you do?
Why can't you accept that we the parents are doing what's best for our kids? You did! Why can't I?
As for locking up this post. Why? As long as we're talking about youth sports or youth hockey in general this should be acceptable. I agree as long as you continue to take cheap shots at me. I will reply. I did email you and asked that the non-sense stops. I was really hoping that we could tone it down a bit. It worked for about a day. Then you started pushing buttons again.
As for the coach that fractured his skull. I did help support him and his family financially. I've never seen him do anything but give to the kids. I know he's signed his teams up to play at Mariucci and Excel during Gopher and Wild games. Before his accident he was a coach in his association. I'm not quite sure if he has plans on supporting it in the future. As far as I know he might help out this year. I do know that he's chosen not to skate ever again. I'm not sure why you want to be critical of someone who almost died. Do you even know him? Or are you judge and jury?
PEACE!
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The two of you need to take it to email There is a difference between discussion and personal attacks or insults. This is why the request has been made to kill the thread. Understand?BoogeyMan wrote: As for locking up this post. Why? As long as we're talking about youth sports or youth hockey in general this should be acceptable. I agree as long as you continue to take cheap shots at me. I will reply. I did email you and asked that the non-sense stops. I was really hoping that we could tone it down a bit. It worked for about a day. Then you started pushing buttons again.
Lee
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When I have ever had a problem with a coach I have spoken with the coach directly.flatontheice wrote: Have you ever verbally attacked volunteer youth coaches?
Unlike this case where coaches gathered together and supported a fallen fellow coach with money and kindness, only to be ridiculed later for their coaching efforts on the ice by someone you couldn't stay standing on the ice.
That was my intent and request long ago. I was requested not to contact him. I can share his emails to me if you want to see how he toned it downed off line.east hockey wrote:The two of you need to take it to email There is a difference between discussion and personal attacks or insults. This is why the request has been made to kill the thread. Understand?BoogeyMan wrote: As for locking up this post. Why? As long as we're talking about youth sports or youth hockey in general this should be acceptable. I agree as long as you continue to take cheap shots at me. I will reply. I did email you and asked that the non-sense stops. I was really hoping that we could tone it down a bit. It worked for about a day. Then you started pushing buttons again.
Lee
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Now that this thing has been tazered by the Warden
Boogey...
I think the point a lot of us were trying to make is... that it's fine to do what ever it is that makes YOU happy...but many of us have gone thru a lot of the things your talking about doing..and have found that we probably made some mistakes ourselves..maybe to much pressure..to much ME and not enough the kid...we say were not doing it, but when we look back we were..was it fun for us? sure, at the time.
Did it get him where he is today?? doubtful.
The reason I say that is there are so many kids that don't even start playing until 10-13 that are very successful today..so the point would be if they didn't even start until they were squirts or even peewee's how does it matter? unless your concerned about having the best 10 yr old ever it won't make much difference.
I have no problem with any one going to MM, it's kinda like a public vs private argument(sorry Lee) there is no right answer it's all about choice, and being able to choose.
So with that said I still stand by my argument that no mite needs 100 hrs of ice time in a season, it's just to much for any kid that age and does not allow for diversity to do other things that will by far benefit them later.
You don't have to listen or even agree but the guys that have been around long enough will most likely back me up on this...have you ever thought that this whole argument has been about benefiting the youth in hockey thru education of younger parents to the game.
I wish your child well !
Last word Lee?
Boogey...
I think the point a lot of us were trying to make is... that it's fine to do what ever it is that makes YOU happy...but many of us have gone thru a lot of the things your talking about doing..and have found that we probably made some mistakes ourselves..maybe to much pressure..to much ME and not enough the kid...we say were not doing it, but when we look back we were..was it fun for us? sure, at the time.
Did it get him where he is today?? doubtful.
The reason I say that is there are so many kids that don't even start playing until 10-13 that are very successful today..so the point would be if they didn't even start until they were squirts or even peewee's how does it matter? unless your concerned about having the best 10 yr old ever it won't make much difference.
I have no problem with any one going to MM, it's kinda like a public vs private argument(sorry Lee) there is no right answer it's all about choice, and being able to choose.
So with that said I still stand by my argument that no mite needs 100 hrs of ice time in a season, it's just to much for any kid that age and does not allow for diversity to do other things that will by far benefit them later.
You don't have to listen or even agree but the guys that have been around long enough will most likely back me up on this...have you ever thought that this whole argument has been about benefiting the youth in hockey thru education of younger parents to the game.
I wish your child well !
Last word Lee?
Can't never tired- I appreciate the words of wisdom. You are right. I'm new to youth hockey. I also agree that kids don't need that many hours at the rink. But also remember some of the people that are critical of MM sign their kids up to play Fall, Winter and Spring hockey. Add it all up and the kids are playing over 100 hours of hockey.
Let me put it this way. My decision is solely based on the amount of instruction my son will be receiving. If MM offered 50 hours. I would still choose them. Please keep in mind that I have nothing but good things to say about my association. I feel dollar for dollar my son is getting better instruction at MM. I know some people might not want to hear this. I'm not trying to insult any one person or association. I've been part of both MM and our local association. This year my son chose to play MM Choice league. Since we have 11 other kids from our association playing. The fun factor will still be there.
I appreciate the positive feedback. Time will tell how this league pans out. Should be interesting.
Good luck! Thanks for the positive post.
Let me put it this way. My decision is solely based on the amount of instruction my son will be receiving. If MM offered 50 hours. I would still choose them. Please keep in mind that I have nothing but good things to say about my association. I feel dollar for dollar my son is getting better instruction at MM. I know some people might not want to hear this. I'm not trying to insult any one person or association. I've been part of both MM and our local association. This year my son chose to play MM Choice league. Since we have 11 other kids from our association playing. The fun factor will still be there.
I appreciate the positive feedback. Time will tell how this league pans out. Should be interesting.
Good luck! Thanks for the positive post.