Unbeaten/Untied teams

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:25 am

Hill may lose in the Schwans tourney, hard to say without knowing who they will face.
Odds are they will lose one or two in January.

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:31 am

EP and ER game will take one of them out. Neither will make it out of January.

My pick for last man standing.
Eden Prairie

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:32 am

Single A,

Luverne, gotta be Luverne.

hockeydad · Post by **hockeydad** » Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:40 pm

EG Forks and Alexandria fall

Hill-Murray
Eden Prairie
Elk River/Zimmerman
Grand Rapids
Mankato West
Luverne
St. Cloud Cathedral

blueblood · Post by **blueblood** » Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:57 pm

Mankato West is my pick

Post by **karl(east)** » Sat Dec 14, 2013 11:19 pm

Grand Rapids lost yesterday, too.

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 8:13 am

Well, EGF lost.
So, Hill in AA, Luverne in A and overall it is.

hockeydad · Post by **hockeydad** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 4:35 pm

HSHW... I fell prey to minnnesota-scores.net just like you. Take grand rapids off the list

Hill-Murray
Eden Prairie
Elk River/Zimmerman
Mankato West
Luverne
St. Cloud Cathedral

curtiscurve · Post by **curtiscurve** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:04 pm

Eden Prairie will be the next to fall on 12/19 to Elk River

My guess is the rest will fall in this order....
Elk River 12/21 (Grand Rapids)
Luverne 12/21 (Achiever Academy)
Mankato West 12/27 (Duluth Marshall)
Hill Murray 12/28 (Gold Championship probably vs St. Thomas)
Which leaves the last undefeated team.........
St. Cloud Cathedral who won't make it long into 2014. 1/3 (East Grand Forks)

alcloseshaver · Post by **alcloseshaver** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:00 pm

Elk River will lose to EP or Edina in the classic. Grand Rapids will be playing their 4th game of the week when they meet ER and I would think ER will handle them this year at the Classic.

Ref190 · Post by **Ref190** » Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:50 am

Go Hill!!!

edgeless2 · Post by **edgeless2** » Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:41 pm

ER/Zimmerman loses 3-1 to EP. That being said, EP has not beaten Edina in this Tourney since 2005 which is amazing since they have won 2 state titles since then.

hockeydad · Post by **hockeydad** » Sat Dec 21, 2013 12:38 pm

As of right now:

Hill-Murray
Eden Prairie
Mankato West
Luverne
St. Cloud Cathedral

hockey9011 · Post by **hockey9011** » Thu Dec 26, 2013 7:09 pm

St. Cloud cathedral is the next team to fall. Lost to Sauk rapids rice today

hockeydad · Post by **hockeydad** » Thu Dec 26, 2013 9:39 pm

Luverne tied STMA today, 1-1. They won the shootout to advance in the tournament, but officially it goes as a tie, so scratch the Cardinals off the list. Also, Eden Prairie lost Dec. 21, and again today

That leaves two
Class AA - Hill Murray 8-0, faces Minnetonka Friday
Class A - Mankato West 10-0, faces Appleton East (WI) Friday

notTONIGHT · Post by **notTONIGHT** » Thu Dec 26, 2013 9:54 pm

hockeydad wrote:Luverne tied STMA today, 1-1. They won the shootout to advance in the tournament, but officially it goes as a tie, so scratch the Cardinals off the list. Also, Eden Prairie lost Dec. 21, and again today

That leaves two
Class AA - Hill Murray 8-0, faces Minnetonka Friday
Class A - Mankato West 10-0, faces Appleton East (WI) Friday

So when a team plays in a tournament with crystal clear rules set in place for a winner and a loser, and one team clearly wins according to the rules, its not a win.

Understood.......

PuckRanger · Post by **PuckRanger** » Thu Dec 26, 2013 10:09 pm

notTONIGHT wrote:
hockeydad wrote:Luverne tied STMA today, 1-1. They won the shootout to advance in the tournament, but officially it goes as a tie, so scratch the Cardinals off the list. Also, Eden Prairie lost Dec. 21, and again today

That leaves two
Class AA - Hill Murray 8-0, faces Minnetonka Friday
Class A - Mankato West 10-0, faces Appleton East (WI) Friday
So when a team plays in a tournament with crystal clear rules set in place for a winner and a loser, and one team clearly wins according to the rules, its not a win.

Understood.......

It is a widely accepted fact that all tournament shootout wins are considered ties, and in fact are officially considered a tie by the MSHSL. The shootout is only allowed to advance a winner for the sake of the tournament bracket, not for win/loss records.

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Thu Dec 26, 2013 10:17 pm

Looking over the thread, blueblood is the only one with a possible correct prediction. And right now it seems West has a pretty good shot of making it all the way, or at least one more day.

blueblood · Post by **blueblood** » Thu Dec 26, 2013 10:35 pm

I finally may win some bragging rights from all the contests I enter on this dang message board

.

notTONIGHT · Post by **notTONIGHT** » Thu Dec 26, 2013 11:03 pm

PuckRanger wrote:
notTONIGHT wrote:
hockeydad wrote:Luverne tied STMA today, 1-1. They won the shootout to advance in the tournament, but officially it goes as a tie, so scratch the Cardinals off the list. Also, Eden Prairie lost Dec. 21, and again today

That leaves two
Class AA - Hill Murray 8-0, faces Minnetonka Friday
Class A - Mankato West 10-0, faces Appleton East (WI) Friday
So when a team plays in a tournament with crystal clear rules set in place for a winner and a loser, and one team clearly wins according to the rules, its not a win.

Understood.......
It is a widely accepted fact that all tournament shootout wins are considered ties, and in fact are officially considered a tie by the MSHSL. The shootout is only allowed to advance a winner for the sake of the tournament bracket, not for win/loss records.

A team that knows what is expected of it, completes expectations, ends up with negative notch on its record.

Universally accepted or not. Unfortunate.

PuckRanger · Post by **PuckRanger** » Fri Dec 27, 2013 12:19 am

notTONIGHT wrote:
PuckRanger wrote:
notTONIGHT wrote: So when a team plays in a tournament with crystal clear rules set in place for a winner and a loser, and one team clearly wins according to the rules, its not a win.

Understood.......
It is a widely accepted fact that all tournament shootout wins are considered ties, and in fact are officially considered a tie by the MSHSL. The shootout is only allowed to advance a winner for the sake of the tournament bracket, not for win/loss records.
A team that knows what is expected of it, completes expectations, ends up with negative notch on its record.

Universally accepted or not. Unfortunate.

Unfortunate... maybe. But this is not a new thing - its been around for ages - both teams and coaches were well aware of this, so they really did not complete expectations if their goal was to post a "W" on their record.

andovercw · Post by **andovercw** » Fri Dec 27, 2013 8:35 am

Stop whining NotTonight! Everyone knows, including you, it goes down as a tie. I watched your cards and have to say I wasn't too impressed. They play a middle of the road cities team and couldn't do anything offensively. 1 player stood out and that was your defenseman 22. He didn't lack much and made up what he did with swag.

InYourFace09 · Post by **InYourFace09** » Fri Dec 27, 2013 8:50 am

andovercw wrote:Stop whining NotTonight! Everyone knows, including you, it goes down as a tie. I watched your cards and have to say I wasn't too impressed. They play a middle of the road cities team and couldn't do anything offensively. 1 player stood out and that was your defenseman 22. He didn't lack much and made up what he did with swag.

You do realize that only tournament games go to shootouts right? Not every regular season game goes to a shootout which is why it is considered a TIE. Your Cards still have 0 losses.... be happy.

Traxler · Post by **Traxler** » Fri Dec 27, 2013 9:08 am

notTONIGHT wrote:A team that knows what is expected of it, completes expectations, ends up with negative notch on its record.

Universally accepted or not. Unfortunate.

How is a tie negative?

hockeydad · Post by **hockeydad** » Fri Dec 27, 2013 9:46 am

Traxler wrote:
notTONIGHT wrote:A team that knows what is expected of it, completes expectations, ends up with negative notch on its record.

Universally accepted or not. Unfortunate.
How is a tie negative?

The saying goes, a tie is like kissing your sister. Traxler.... you must have a pretty good looking sister

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