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joemagoo362
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Post by joemagoo362 »

norcon wrote:
archway Sign wrote:This happened to everyone from rapids who was sitting on the Home side...which was the Rapids side and the Edina side. I can understand why they were jockeying for seats, Edina and EP would have been a great game to stay for, but I had to tell more than one person they could have my seat when the game was over. I even held some ladies blanket. This is a scheduling mistake which creates this minor clash.

As far as student sections...Edina, EP and Elk River student sections would not make it 5 minutes in the IRA civic center. Our school officials and community would never allow such rude behavior...this is college behavior and these kids behave this way because the adults in the community allow them. Maybe some day these teams will come to Rapids and our community can show you how classy programs treat each other. It actually makes the game more fun to watch and play.

That being said it was a great tourney...and the Elks may end up in Rapids this year as a low seed in the section. If you do, keep your student section with the trashy mouths at home. The only person who will be allowed to yell the entire game will be your coach.
You hit it right on the head! It all starts with the parents, coaches, and school officials. There's no reason any of this behavior should be tolerated. It just irritates me when I see the opposing team not facing their opponent during player introductions. A total sign of disrespect. You typically see this with the metro teams. As far as the student sections go, they pretty much just try to outdo each other with stupdity.
It doesn't only happen in the Metro. I was at the Moorhead-Edina basketball game last year and the Moorhead fans did the reading the newspapers routine. But I agree with you that its disrespectful.
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Post by Neutron 14 »

grindiangrad-80 wrote:First of all, I would like to say that Edina has a great team and a great hockey tradition. Their history speaks for itself.
I believe their image problem dates back to the late 60's.
Warroad blasted through the tourny on the back of Henry Bouche and were poised to complete a great year with a championship when Henry and an Edina guy hit the boards hard. Henry was done for the night, Edina ended up winning, and the hate for Edina was born. I was only 7, but I believe most of the state was pulling for Warroad that night.I know it was almost 40 years ago, but even my mom is still sore about it.
Hang in there. Another 2 or 3 lifetimes and all will be forgot. :)
I remember. Like most Citiots, I too was rooting for Henry. But replay after replay show, it was a clean hit.
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Post by breakout »

grindiangrad-80 wrote:First of all, I would like to say that Edina has a great team and a great hockey tradition. Their history speaks for itself.
I believe their image problem dates back to the late 60's.
Warroad blasted through the tourny on the back of Henry Bouche and were poised to complete a great year with a championship when Henry and an Edina guy hit the boards hard. Henry was done for the night, Edina ended up winning, and the hate for Edina was born. I was only 7, but I believe most of the state was pulling for Warroad that night.
I know it was almost 40 years ago, but even my mom is still sore about it.
Hang in there. Another 2 or 3 lifetimes and all will be forgot. :)

You are referring to Henry Boucha being cheap shot by an Edina player.

Image problem :lol: Nothing like seeing one of the states greatest players of all time taken out questionably in the State Tournament so the other team has a chance to win...............great sportsmanship!

Giles trying to take them back?

Additionally, my EP buddy told me that Alex Rush got his hand broke by a GR person the night before. Maybe #8 from GR and #10 from Edina can smoke a piece pipe together. Afterall, they both know how to use the tomahawk.

Watch out Ness!
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Post by grindiangrad-80 »

Hey, I was just tryin to lighten up the mood a little.
Everyone takes everything so personal.
You can watch any given hockey game and come up with a few plays that could be considered cheap or dirty. It's the nature of the game.
The real reason most people dislike Edina is because they have won most of the time. Plain and simple.
Just like the Patriots in the NFL, if you don't like what they are doing, go out and kick their rear. If you can't, you'll have to take it until you can.
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Post by scoreboard33 »

breakout wrote:
grindiangrad-80 wrote:First of all, I would like to say that Edina has a great team and a great hockey tradition. Their history speaks for itself.
I believe their image problem dates back to the late 60's.
Warroad blasted through the tourny on the back of Henry Bouche and were poised to complete a great year with a championship when Henry and an Edina guy hit the boards hard. Henry was done for the night, Edina ended up winning, and the hate for Edina was born. I was only 7, but I believe most of the state was pulling for Warroad that night.
I know it was almost 40 years ago, but even my mom is still sore about it.
Hang in there. Another 2 or 3 lifetimes and all will be forgot. :)

You are referring to Henry Boucha being cheap shot by an Edina player.

Image problem :lol: Nothing like seeing one of the states greatest players of all time taken out questionably in the State Tournament so the other team has a chance to win...............great sportsmanship!

Giles trying to take them back?

Additionally, my EP buddy told me that Alex Rush got his hand broke by a GR person the night before. Maybe #8 from GR and #10 from Edina can smoke a piece pipe together. Afterall, they both know how to use the tomahawk.

Watch out Ness!
If you read Zamman's post, it seems the ref's said that Eden Prairie was more of the problem than Edina, and I have a hard time believing an Eden Prairie player would legitimately tell you if the hit was from behind or a clean hit that he didn't see coming. First hand accounts form the players are always going to be biased, jsut like first hand accounts from fans from both cities.
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Post by karl(east) »

The Hammer wrote:How could this thread have grown to this number of replies without including some comments about those wonderful Greyhound fans?

In a battle between a Hornet fan and a Greyhound fan which has better sportsmanship?
I was wondering if someone would bring up East. As I was reading some of the descriptions of the Edina student section, my reaction was, "this sounds an awful lot like East." It probably comes from being the "cakeaters" and a history of success. This seems to naturally create hatred and rivalries. And the loyal fan bases of these programs will, naturally, fight back, often in ways we would never dream of outside of a hockey arena. This is likely a natural trend at any level of any sport...the New York Yankees probably make the best example.

Teams that are successful tend to develop a sense of superiority, whether they deserve it or not.
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Post by hockeychild16 »

GR3343 wrote:As stated before, I am proud to be from a smaller community where values, sportsmanship, dignity and respect, are taught from generation to generation.
GR you seem to believe that your community is perfect and that nothing goes wrong or that these rowdy children/parents don't exist where you live. Could it possibly be that you are too naive to notice the children with bad sportsmanship on your side of the arena, or maybe its just that you refuse to believe that any kid from your town could act this way. There are people in every town that act rowdy and disrespectful, and it is an insult to stereotype based on a few people you witnessed acting in this disrespectful manner.

I have been to games where Grand Rapids' fans have acted poorly (State last year), or at least, just as "poorly" as Edina fans. Every school has fans that act in a bad manner, because in case you haven't noticed, they are HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS. Edina has instilled a lot of pride in their students throughout their years, and those students who go beyond a little rowdy do NOT represent us and if you look around at those students, the kids they are with are often embarassed.

As for the National Anthem, those students who do not take their hats off are being disrespectful. They are most often the kids who do not participate in any activities or sports and would just as rather not represent Edina. Any students who do participate and care for the community, do take off their hats. Simply adding "hornets" to the end of the anthem isn't that big of a deal. Saying that is disrespectful is a joke because it is simply showing pride in your school and your home rink/field, not taking away from our Nation.

Some of you parents really need to take a step back and think about the fact that your kids DO act in a similar fashion when playing other schools, and most likely, you acted the same as well.
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Post by gongshowhockey »

edina is ok
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Post by GR3343 »

I seemingly have struck a nerve and stirred up a literal hornet's nest. Nowhere in any of my statements have I claimed perfection for either myself or my community. I only stated opinions of what I have witnessed. The more defensive people get, the more I wonder. While it's obvious I have not witnessed every single GR player, parent or fan, I have observed many. Our student section chants, cheers and is rowdy, and as I said earlier, I'm all for that. That's what games are for. I merely stated an opinion of attitudes portrayed over three days in Edina, and in my opinion, there was an obvious difference. If you don't like that, too bad. Kids are kids, and everyone makes mistakes, it's the disrespectful nature and air of entitlement that many displayed at Braemer that was more noticeable. Remember, the rest of us payed for our seat as well.
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Re: Edina

Post by sticksuphigh »

GR3343 wrote:I seemingly have struck a nerve and stirred up a literal hornet's nest. Nowhere in any of my statements have I claimed perfection for either myself or my community.
GR3343 wrote: I'm proud to be from a smaller town where we pride ourselves and our players with sportsmanship and dignity. It's easier to see why nobody but Edina likes Edina. Here's hoping someone who's of greater character takes home state this year.
GR, what did you think you would accomplish by starting such a negative thread against Edina. I do not defend the actions described but I struggle with how you attempt to paint the entire community as such. Does the story below sound like community you describe? A well penned letter to the Edina High School principal would have been much more effective than posting hate mail on MinnHock.

http://www.mnsun.com/articles/2007/10/1 ... anaugh.txt

Edina students and fans are a class act

(Created: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 11:18 PM CDT)
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To the editor:

I am writing to commend the many Edina High School students for showing such great character and compassion toward Minnetonka High School students and the Minnetonka community at last Friday's football game at Minnetonka.

Given the tragedy of the recent deaths of the two Minnetonka students, I was proud of and impressed by the Edina players, students and adult fans for their small, yet great, acts of support and kindness - fans wearing blue arm bands to honor the two students, football players at the coin toss and the compassionate announcement from Edina student representatives at the school on Friday morning.

This example of character and hope comes at a time in our communities and nation when we desperately need it, reminding me of the goodness that can come when people choose thoughtfulness and courage.

I want to commend you and all the leaders and educators in the Edina schools for the commitment to build the character of Edina students every day. Clearly, you are teaching students not only to be smart, but also to be good.

Joe Cavanaugh

Minnetonka

Joe Cavanaugh is CEO and founder of Youth Frontiers Inc.
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Post by watchdog »

GR we all know what your saying its very clear. its the same thing ive been saying on this board for the past couple years. edina people are right you cant judge a community on a hockey game but you can judge their hockey community. the entire metro for the most part act this way its not just edina and they get so used to this behavior that it doesnt even seem wrong anymore. honestly i have three kids in hockey at three diffrent levels and i could count on one hand how many times we've played a metro team that displayed good sportsmanship. i have said it before the constant crying to the refs is unbelievable. im not sure if its a lack of knowledge or just habit but every time a kid falls to the ice i hear the cry for a call. as for the kids during the antham thats the parents fault since my kids where knee high to a grass hopper they were taught respect for the antham. if they dont comply to that do something about it parent! i wasnt at this game or tourney but i have seen the behavior many times. as for a big rivalry cheap shots on the ice to the extent of what i hear on this tread is unexceptable.
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Post by DumpandChase1 »

So watchdog, are you saying that nobody from the north, or Roseau, ever complains about the refs? I have heard your parents at some past youth state games and the foul language toward the officials was unreal. Bad sportsmanship is not reserved for the metro, it is state wide.
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Post by watchdog »

yeah ive heard it to on an occasion but you wont anymore. i would agree with you that it has happend but its not every game. what im saying is i can bank on it 90% of the time with metro hockey. the few times it hasnt happend ive been very impressed. i also realize that these things can change from one group of parents to another thats what i notice in the north alot. now if im wrong and you feel my assesment is way off base perhaps i need to spend some more time in the cities or ill just ask some relatives that go to hockey down ther all the time for some insights. one more tidbit i cant say ive never yelled at a ref in a hockey game. its not a game to game event either.
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Post by DumpandChase1 »

Dog, there are idiots all over the state that give the good fans and parents a bad name.
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