Edina

GR3343 · Post by **GR3343** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:43 pm

I was able to attend all the games at the Edina Classic this week, and although the hockey was outstanding, I can see now why many out there are not Edina fans. As an adult, I was amazed at the lack of sportsmanship by the student section and the players of Edina. Even the parents were rude and obnoxious. The foul language of both young and old was amazing. Even during the playing of the National Anthem, the Edina faithful managed to make themselves look ridiculous. It's as if someone told these people that they were entitled to the world, and the rest of us were lucky to be included. At one point, I was quietly watching the GR vs Elk River game, and actually had Edina fans(adults) try to move me from my seat. My wife had gotten up for a minute to get something from the concessions and left her purse sitting next to me along with a game program. As I was still sitting there, a woman came up and moved my wife's things and attempted to sit down. I politely told her the seats were being used by my wife and I. She told me that the seats were for the people of Edina and that they were hers. This went on well before the start of the Edina/EP game. I managed to watch the end of the GR game and wanted to take in what appeared to be a good high school game between two rivals. My wife and I made it through two periods and finally had to leave. The combination of constant complaining about referees and opposing players, coupled with the use of extremely poor language was enough for me. Also, throughout the games I was trying to watch, the constant up/down/walking through the aisles was too much.
The players, their parents, fans and community should be ashamed of their behavior. I'm all for good natured rivalries, cheering and chanting and making some noise, but it was all a bit too much. I'm proud to be from a smaller town where we pride ourselves and our players with sportsmanship and dignity. It's easier to see why nobody but Edina likes Edina. Here's hoping someone who's of greater character takes home state this year.

selloutcrowd99 · Post by **selloutcrowd99** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:53 pm

Why would you make this thread? To try and get people on board of the "I hate Edina" bandwagon? You are the only one who is complaining about this right now, and you only want more people to feel the hatred that you feel for this community. The players overall exhibit good sportsmanship, and a lack of that (if any) last night may have been to the fact that EP and Edina are eachothers biggest rivals. Of course fan sections will be obnoxious, and stupid, what do you expect? I have never heard of the parents from this community to be that selfish or stupid, and I find it hard to believe that they would do those things. If you think Edina is low-class, you are mistaken.

boblee · Post by **boblee** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:01 pm

I didn't attend this year, but this sounds very similar to what the case was the past two years.

Zamman · Post by **Zamman** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:01 pm

Not sure how the team was viewed in this manner... I spoke with a ref from the EP / Edina game and he said Edina was very good compared to the EP team. In fact he was wondering why EP would act this way. As far as the fans, if this person was so bold as to try and move someone when the seating is general admission. Look out.... I only know that at most arenas there is a designated student section and that area should be vacated for the students. I know at our arena, there is a "student" section and we sometimes have trouble because there are no signs designating the area as a student section. Most people will move if you ask, because they know the students are usually very obnoxious. That's ok they are students.

saintpaulhockey · Post by **saintpaulhockey** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:09 pm

Everyone DOES hate Edina. They do lack class, it is evident everytime you see them play. No point arguing though because they never will admit it. It doesnt help they have a good team this year even though they won't win state. I can't wait for some brain-washed and over-priviledged Edina fan respond by saying how inaccurate our notions of the cake-eaters are.

lampthelight · Post by **lampthelight** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:29 pm

selloutcrowd99 wrote:Why would you make this thread? To try and get people on board of the "I hate Edina" bandwagon? You are the only one who is complaining about this right now, and you only want more people to feel the hatred that you feel for this community. The players overall exhibit good sportsmanship, and a lack of that (if any) last night may have been to the fact that EP and Edina are eachothers biggest rivals. Of course fan sections will be obnoxious, and stupid, what do you expect? I have never heard of the parents from this community to be that selfish or stupid, and I find it hard to believe that they would do those things. If you think Edina is low-class, you are mistaken.

Edina has a very good team and the team, and their fans know it. People from Edina think it's because of how good Edina is why people hate them, it's not, it is because of their behavior and the "we're better than you" attitudes from a few of their fans.

As for the team... I haven't seen much, if any of the poor-sportsmanship from the players that GR speaks of. Yes, the players are a little arrogant, but lets be honest, they aren't the only school who has that from their players. To me they play good TEAM hockey, and I love watching them play. Every rush could turn into a pretty goal, and thats exciting to watch.

I'm not an Edina fan, or hater. I can see where GR is coming from, but I also don't completely agree. It is not only Edina who does this, and it is not EVERY Edina fan or parent. So stereotyping the whole town of Edina is wrong.

PuckTime · Post by **PuckTime** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:38 pm

I just take it that GR is saying that the Edina fans did not do a good job representing their town.
The student section during the national anthem was what I noticed. Not impressed at all with their behavior.

archway Sign · Post by **archway Sign** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:52 pm

This happened to everyone from rapids who was sitting on the Home side...which was the Rapids side and the Edina side. I can understand why they were jockeying for seats, Edina and EP would have been a great game to stay for, but I had to tell more than one person they could have my seat when the game was over. I even held some ladies blanket. This is a scheduling mistake which creates this minor clash.

As far as student sections...Edina, EP and Elk River student sections would not make it 5 minutes in the IRA civic center. Our school officials and community would never allow such rude behavior...this is college behavior and these kids behave this way because the adults in the community allow them. Maybe some day these teams will come to Rapids and our community can show you how classy programs treat each other. It actually makes the game more fun to watch and play.

That being said it was a great tourney...and the Elks may end up in Rapids this year as a low seed in the section. If you do, keep your student section with the trashy mouths at home. The only person who will be allowed to yell the entire game will be your coach.

highschoolhockeyfann · Sat Dec 22, 2007 7:55 pm

Ill start off by saying that i am from Edina

GR3343- I understand what you are saying i wish you could have watched the end of your game. I know some of the guys on the team and they are good people. I personally go to watch the games but sometimes get caught up in the mix of things. like you did which can be frustrating,

I have been to GR and it is a great town

Hockeyguy_27 · Post by **Hockeyguy_27** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 8:41 pm

Last year after Grand Rapids squeaked by Burnsville in the State Quarterfinals. Reider Jensen skated by the B'ville bench, taunted the team and pointed at the scoreboard. I don't dislike Grand Rapids but thought this was as classless a thing as I've ever seen. I made a post about this and don't recall one Rapids fan even acknowledging what he did was wrong.

Does Edina have jerks--sure but all communities have them but just like Jensen's stupid act or what a few Edina fans did to you this past weekend. I don't think you can judge an entire community by the actions of a few people--even if it is Edina.

O-townClown · Post by **O-townClown** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 8:56 pm

GR3343 wrote: Here's hoping someone who's of greater character takes home state this year.

You'll know in two and a half months.

As for your assessment.... Edina is hyper-competitive. That has both good and bad consequences.

Neutron 14 · Post by **Neutron 14** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 9:11 pm

O-townClown wrote:As for your assessment.... Edina is hyper-competitive. That has both good and bad consequences.

Hyper-competitive is not analogous with boorish.

O-townClown · Post by **O-townClown** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 9:18 pm

Neutron 14 wrote: Hyper-competitive is not analogous with boorish.

No, but it certainly creates the environment that led to a person trying to bump them from their general admission seats.

Do you think that Edina lady had any concern for the visitor from Grand Rapids and the game they were watching?

I'm just glad to say it wasn't my mom. #1 - she would never do that... and #2 - she is out of state and couldn't go.

I'll leave it to you to explain Neut.

My Midget coach used to explain to us that being selfish is a good thing. If you aren't a little selfish you'll never get what you want in life. Can't say he's wrong, but that certainly isn't a sentiment verbalized in most communities.

Edina is different than many communities. I'll let you decide whether that's good or bad. I've already come to my well-informed conclusion.

Neutron 14 · Post by **Neutron 14** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 9:34 pm

O-townClown wrote: I'll leave it to you to explain Neut.

Love to help, but I have no idea on what its like to feel entitled.

Snap Shot · Post by **Snap Shot** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 9:46 pm

The scene GR describes is just plain rude and ugly.

Why not take him at his word? He sounds like a good guy who just ran into some poor sports from Edina. For some Edina mom to say "these seats are for Edina people" says it all. You would hope for she would try to set a better example for her community and offer some hospitality.

It's so sad to see all the "me first" behavior these days. This kind of thing happens more often than I'd like to admit, and not just in Edina.

You go GR. When people shed light on this kind of behavior it's a good thing.

How about we all try to remember how lucky we are to watch these kids play and all the time and effort they have put into the games. We are lucky to have so many community ice arenas to watch them in. Try living in Arizona or Florida for a while where community facilities are not nearly what they are here, and maybe you'll just appreciate being in an arena watching a great hockey game.

Reggie · Post by **Reggie** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 9:57 pm

selloutcrowd99 wrote:Why would you make this thread? To try and get people on board of the "I hate Edina" bandwagon? You are the only one who is complaining about this right now, and you only want more people to feel the hatred that you feel for this community. The players overall exhibit good sportsmanship, and a lack of that (if any) last night may have been to the fact that EP and Edina are eachothers biggest rivals. Of course fan sections will be obnoxious, and stupid, what do you expect? I have never heard of the parents from this community to be that selfish or stupid, and I find it hard to believe that they would do those things. If you think Edina is low-class, you are mistaken.

I just jumped on the wagon. Never liked the cake anyways!

Indians forever · Post by **Indians forever** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 10:04 pm

Everybody loves to hate Edina, the problem is they thrive on it. I was at the game of Edina and EP. One thing that does tick me off is when our National Anthem was playing they made a mockery out of the song!! Is that the Kids or poor parenting? My guess is both, just an opinion. The newspapers while the oppossing team is being annonced and the heckling is actually funny (sometimes), but when it comes to the national anthem you take your hat off and either sing the Anthem or shut your damn mouth. show some respect!!! GR you can't blame the players, Edina is a heck of a team, it is the un-educated fans down there that is the problem!

tomASS · Post by **tomASS** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 10:17 pm

GR3343 wrote: It's as if someone told these people that they were entitled to the world, and the rest of us were lucky to be included.

No but they do have to sign a residential contract when they buy a house in the city stating that they will try to uphold a certain demeanor that communicates that they are from Edina.

halla · Post by **halla** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 12:09 am

I am a brain-washed and over-privileged Edina fan. Your notions are very inaccurate.

The statements made in this thread almost sound as if we might not think of ourselves as divine beings who should never have to acknowledge the rest of the world exists.

In reality, we believe that we are so superior that the competition is a complete waste of time. We contend that the refs actually should manually place the puck in the opposing team's net about 10 to 20 times per period because we are, in fact, hockey gods after all, and they should do our bidding.

Why do people bother calling on Edinans to show sportsmanship and respect when it is obvious there has never been anyone from Edina who has an ounce of genuine appreciate for the game of hockey, let alone any such virtues.

While I'm at it, what are you all doing on my message board?

GR3343 · Post by **GR3343** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 12:53 am

As stated before, I am proud to be from a smaller community where values, sportsmanship, dignity and respect, are taught from generation to generation. Good natured cheering, taunting(within reason)and making noise, are all part of the atmosphere. I'm all for having fun, being rowdy and going nuts for your team. Edina took things a few steps further(parents & fans). The disrespect during the Anthem should be enough for the Old School community to question. The National Anthem is a symbol of time and respect for ALL. In the three games I personally witnessed Edina play, players and fans were moving around, speaking, yelling and in general disrespectful. Take note of the GR players standing at attention as most of their fans were, until the Anthem is complete. And by the way, the last time I checked, it's still the Home of the Brave, not the hornets. That was as galling a display as I've ever witnessed, and I had the misfortune of hearing that three times.

While all Edina fans may not fit the rude bill that I observed, there were many, many that did. The powers that be in Edina sports should know better and have more respect.

I only started this thread to voice my opinion about what took place in a hockey venue. That's what the "bored" is all about. If it strikes a nerve with the Edina fans, so be it. Rather than striking back with harsh comments, look deeper and see the truth.

adam23 · Post by **adam23** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 1:05 am

ok to all that is upset with edina and their fans/parents/players and their lack of sportsmanship:

I'll also start off and say i'm from edina.

You cannot be serious to put all the blame on JUST edina for their sportsmanship. Granted i do understand there are a lot of people in Edina that are pricks and will be arrogant, but really there is always people like that in every town and every high school. You blame us and try to degrade us for how we act, and yet i heard fans from both Elk River and EP swear and say F you to little kids. IS THAT ETHICAL AND SPORTSMAN LIKE? in my opinion that is the most classless thing anyone can do. And now on the players. Is it unsportsmanlike that edina scores a goal, celebrates like every team does, goes through the line to slap hands with the teammates like everyone does, but while they do that a player from EP tries to 2 hand a player in the wrist? That is just being a sore loser who can't control himself and tries to be a punk and get his cheap shot in cause as a player and as a team they can't beat their rival. My whole point here is just that you can't put all the blame on Edina for having poor sportsmanship, because you can find the same poor sportsmanship in every town and school you go to.

Oh and on the topic of the National Anthem: All they're doing is adding the crash cymbal into the a capella song. to me i think its very cool, and is not disrespectful. Everyone takes their caps off, sings the song, and never yells anything during the song. All they did was add the crash cymbal

royals0951 · Post by **royals0951** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 1:16 am

i don't know what it is about edina fans that makes them think they can do whatever they want. its not just money, because fans in woodbury, wayzata, and other wealthy communities r not nearly as disrespectful as edina fans, and both of those communities actually have a higher per capita income than edina. woodbury's student section does heckle other teams and players, they turn their backs when the opponents r being announced, and the sieve the goalie after he gives up 4 or more goals, but that is part of the game in my opinion. if ur not mentally tough enough to block out opposing fans, u should get off the ice. but at least these kids have the respect to take their hats off during the national anthem, and probly 75% sing along with it. edina fans just seem to think they can do whatever they want, whenever they want, and the adults r much worse than the students in that regard. last year at the state tourney when woodbury played edina i had a parent yell at me as i was walking past him because i was wearing a woodbury shirt and hat. seems a little ridiculous to me

joemagoo362 · Post by **joemagoo362** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 3:06 am

I'll start off by saying that I'm a student at Edina High School.

I'd like to apologize to GR for the inconsiderate woman who attempted to steal your wife's seat, and I'd like to ask you to please not base your opinion of the community of Edina on this one person.

About the students being disrespectful during the national anthem, I did not attend the game against Eden Prairie, however I heard from a friend that, like adam said, they were just adding the cymbal crash in.

There are a fair share of bad apples in Edina, just like all fanbases. Please don't base your opinion of Edina on just those people.

sticksuphigh · Post by **sticksuphigh** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 4:39 am

Reggie wrote:
selloutcrowd99 wrote:Why would you make this thread? To try and get people on board of the "I hate Edina" bandwagon? You are the only one who is complaining about this right now, and you only want more people to feel the hatred that you feel for this community. The players overall exhibit good sportsmanship, and a lack of that (if any) last night may have been to the fact that EP and Edina are eachothers biggest rivals. Of course fan sections will be obnoxious, and stupid, what do you expect? I have never heard of the parents from this community to be that selfish or stupid, and I find it hard to believe that they would do those things. If you think Edina is low-class, you are mistaken.
I just jumped on the wagon. Never liked the cake anyways!

Before we burn and pillaged the towns people and children, perhaps we should read this article about their behavior and reflect much like the Grinch that their is hope for this community.

http://www.mnsun.com/articles/2007/10/1 ... anaugh.txt

I wonder how heated this thread would be if Edina were a .500 team?
Blanket hatred is really an ugly emotion, and to think this team was once applauded for staying together and not leaving early for their own self interests.

Very interesting to see the power of what someone types on this site and the assumption that it is 100% factual and unbiased. Not too many folks here in the Christmas spirit...

halla · Post by **halla** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 7:41 am

Clearly you did strike a nerve, which you have stated you are quite willing to do.

And I don't fault you for striking nerves when addressing problems that need addressing.

But I do question how posting a separate thread on this can be a constructive course of action here. Will this make things better in some way? Seems to me a more likely results is along the lines of the (further) "burning and pillaging" in people's perceptions that sticksuphigh was talking about.

GR, I am very glad you have a lot of pride in your community. In fact, you are not the only one.

Perhaps you feel mine is misplaced? I can assure you that it has nothing to do with the unfortunate behaviors you have described. Can you believe that?

I currently live out of state and don't make it to many games these days. I certainly hope what you experienced is not representative of the typical Edina game at Braemar arena this year.

I only hope that, before any folks criticize a community, they stop and consider that, however many bad apples one may find, it does not mean there are not several excellent ones.

I happen to know, first-hand, that on this Edina team there are several players, as well as their families, friends, coaches, and other current and former mentors supporting them, who, if you spent time with and got to know them, would make you think twice before posting such a thread.

That is all.

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