Pioneerprideguy wrote:I guess we have a different way of defining success. We enjoy playing big games & playing for section titles. We enjoy the experience of playing in the state tournament. We enjoy being one of the elite 8 teams that people come to see & cheer against. We enjoy being covered by the media. We have done this in the past & continue to do this. Johnson does not. State titles are precious, and both our schools have experienced these, but to limit the term of "success" to one game, would be narrow minded...but to each there own.
I can understand your desire to hold onto history as the past is all Johnson has. The present isn't pretty & the future looks even worse. You can recall with fondness the years gone by as you drive home from the arena after seeing the Govies drop another contest to a mediocre club. For us, the past has been good, the present is good, and the future looks solid as well.
So don't worry, the misery of another Johnson season will end soon & you can add another chapter to the glory years. People will continue to talk about your program in such ways as, "do they still have a program?"

Once again, another difference... As you well know from my other posts regarding today's Johnson hockey, I'm fully aware of the state the program's in - I see things for what they are. Even though they're not winning much anymore, and most families are moving out to the suburbs, I'll take every kid wearing a maroon sweater this year over just about anybody who's ever worn green. Those kids have more respect for who they are and where they come from than anybody I've ever dealt with from Hill-Murray - and I've dealt with a lot. You're acting like a prime example of what I'm talking about.
There's such an elitist mentality there, it's ridiculous - even CDH generates kids who have
some common sense and respect for others. The kids that attend school there are generally developed to go about their business quietly, whereas HM can't wait to yammer on and on about how "great" they are, despite the fact that it's just not the case. The blind squirrel found a nut twice. Congratulations.
But you, as a typical HM fan, are still are patting yourself on the back, saying that mediocrity over the last 15 years makes the Pioneers an "elite" team. Maybe the Pioneers "success" is as a result of the fact that they're in Maplewood and ended up in in Section 3 all this time. I'd be willing to go so far as to say they are a good team when it comes to preparing for teams they know, but maybe the talent isn't
really there like everybody thinks, because they haven't been able to compete with most other sections in this state (including the "weak" Section 1!

) Keep selling... maybe
somebody outside of Maplewood will buy it!
