I love you

[TomTheBomb]

Do you guys think it's important to say "I love you" at the end of each phone call with your significant others? As a guy, I think those words should be used only at certain moments, and overusing the words many times a day make them lose meaning. The girl wants to say it constantly. I always reply with "Don't tell me. Show me."

It's obvious girls and guys express love in different ways, but what do you guys think?

[Govs93]

Trouble at home, Tom?!

I'm in a unique situation with my old lady in that we've never really done that at any point. It seems to mean more to us if we we can make the other laugh, so more often than not, we'll close our calls by swearing at each other or calling each other vulgar names... I'm not kidding. It's not vicious, but there's always something funny to me about being called an a-hole and told to f-off after a conversation about pretty much nothing...


"How's your day going?"

"Fine."

"Can you pick up some milk on your way home?"

"Sure."

"Ok, thanks. See you when you get home. Kiss my @$$, ballbag."



That's being secure with with your relationship if you ask me! I always took the mandatory "I love you" thing as a sign of being insecure. Our situation seems to work pretty well... I've been trapped with her for 8 years.

[State Champ 97]

What ever works for you and your significant other is right. No matter how different it may be.

[Irishmans Shanty]

As a guy, I think

"As a guy, I think..."

Stop right there for a moment.

My matrimonial guardian angel once told me that the male mind is two-dimensional and the female mind is three-dimensional.

Here's how it goes, men are a simple creature, we see things as either being good or bad. Women are an updated version of us, they see the world in great detail (anyone who has been a part of planning a wedding knows this). Women see things as great, good, decent, ok, average, kind of bad, bad, really bad, or extremely bad. This extra layer of cognitive reasoning explains the communication gap that can exist between the two species. It also explains the many traps that females lay out for us. Such as the on Tom has tabled or the "Would you have been attracted to me if I were ______ ?" These in actuality are not traps, it is just a more complex species trying to bridge the gap with a lesser one.

Hope this helps and best of luck.

[Neutron 14]

I think I wouldn't accept any advice from either boblee or empire on this subject, but from a guy who with his wisdom should be a bartender at a certain tavern.

[boblee]

I think I wouldn't accept any advice from either boblee or empire on this subject, but from a guy who with his wisdom should be a bartender at a certain tavern.

I have no advice to give.

[Govs93]

I think I wouldn't accept any advice from either boblee or empire on this subject, but from a guy who with his wisdom should be a bartender at a certain tavern.

"Women. Can't live with them... Pass the Beer Nuts".


You mean this guy?

[State Champ 97]

I think I wouldn't accept any advice from either boblee or empire on this subject, but from a guy who with his wisdom should be a bartender at a certain tavern.

"Women. Can't live with them... Pass the Beer Nuts".


You mean this guy?

One of the best lines ever.

[TomTheBomb]

ha...Good answers. I knew it would yield a positive response on the board. Because you guys are a bunch of sports loving bunch of guys, yet you're balanced enough that you can tackel a situation such as love without any kind of insecurities.

I see where you're coming from Govs. I sense the insecure thing as well. It's as if I, or we don't say it, and it means we don't love them. I don't need the security of a couple words constantly to know how I feel. However about the name calling...I think you guys are just addicted to the make up sex!

Irishmans that all makes sense...however I will disagree that they are not traps!

[Govs93]

However about the name calling...I think you guys are just addicted to the make up sex!

I've been stuck with her for 8 years. Once you make it to 8 you'll understand there is no such thing as "make up sex"... or any other sex for that matter.

Why do you think I go to all of those hockey games during the season? Gotta kill that extra time somehow.

[EREmpireStrikesBack]

I think I wouldn't accept any advice from either boblee or empire on this subject, but from a guy who with his wisdom should be a bartender at a certain tavern.

I resent that Neut. In the inner circle, I am known as Dr. Love.

I'd say it all depends on the situation. Obviously the young lovebirds say it as often as possible, whereas once you get into the relationship more you get the kinky stuff like Govs to supplant the lack of action. So just deal with it for the time being Tommy and then it will phase out and maybe you can call her names like Govs does. Booooooooooooof!

[TomTheBomb]

Also, Al Bundy used that same line.

"Girls...can't live with 'em... ..."

And he shrugged his shoulders. I wonder which episode aired first.

[Can't Never Tried]

However about the name calling...I think you guys are just addicted to the make up sex!

I've been stuck with her for 8 years. Once you make it to 8 you'll understand there is no such thing as "make up sex"... or any other sex for that matter.

Why do you think I go to all of those hockey games during the season? Gotta kill that extra time somehow.

Great topic Tom
Being a 20+ year prisoner myself I say...
Govs is right and lets just say 8 yrs is a pretty good these days in the times of throw away relationships, and i think being able to dirty talk each other without one or the other taking it personally is pretty secure, although after more time you will gain even more respect for each other and it probably won't be fun to do anymore, or one you (her) will just decide to get pissed one day and you'll be left wondering did I say something??

Tom saying "I love you" becomes kind of like your signature line each time you sign off , is it important.....yeah i think so, because each day you walk out that door, or hang up that phone, may be the last time you ever see or speak to that person you care enough to be called your spouse or significant other....and I want the last thing my wife hears to be something a little more then "see ya ballbag" no offense Govs what ever works, and yeah and the sex thing...well all the viagra in the world ain't gonna help if they won't give it up....and it ain't gonna get any better.
I got about the same chance of scoring as I would at a HS hockey game

[NumberCruncher]

How about saying "I love you" if you're not married or engaged? A little much eh? or nay?

[Neutron 14]

How about saying "I love you" if you're not married or engaged? A little much eh? or nay?

Only if you have to.

[NumberCruncher]

Haha

That sounded kind of like:

"Only if you have to" = "Only if you want to get some action"

[hawkfan70]

whatever tough guys

if it makes her happy to hear those words, just say em

cuz if mama aint happy......

[State Champ 97]

whatever tough guys

if it makes her happy to hear those words, just say em

cuz if mama aint happy......

Amen.

[east hockey]

whatever tough guys

if it makes her happy to hear those words, just say em

cuz if mama aint happy......

I think Foxworthy says something similar to that; "If she ain't happy, you ain't happy"

As I've found out during these past eleven years, this is an undisputable truth. Too bad the Marriage For Dummies book didn't explain that.

Lee

[Can't Never Tried]

So True....but here is another thing.
You know that myth about not seeing the bride on the wedding day?? bad luck and all that!

Well I believe that this is when all the old bats get together and give the new bride-to-be the "how to be a B**ch manual" ya see they go over all the things like, "how to make us plead and pay, for what was given up for nothing just one short day ago", and the "yes means no crap" and how when they say "I don't care" it really means "you will pay dearly later", and the "I got a headache" crap.

Honestly it takes like 15 years to break them of it, and by then your probably not that interested in that anymore, you'd probably rather go to the ball game, or horse track, or paint the garage...near the beer fridge
This manual is the only reason that can explain why they change so fast, and why they make such a fuss if you happen to barge in on their little school session prior to the wedding.
Enjoy your bachelors parties, and don't feel guilty, they have it all worked into the book on how to make you pay for it...for life, so don't beat yourself up that's their job.

I think I'll go to the bar after work tonight...if it's ok with her

[theref]

How about saying "I love you" if you're not married or engaged? A little much eh? or nay?

You don't have to be married or engaged to tell someone that. You just need to actually love them. I have no problem telling my father or my closest friends (at the correct times) that I love them. Life is short and you never know when you are gonna make a final trip to the penalty box so you might as well let people know how you feel.

[NumberCruncher]

How about saying "I love you" if you're not married or engaged? A little much eh? or nay?

You don't have to be married or engaged to tell someone that. You just need to actually love them. I have no problem telling my father or my closest friends (at the correct times) that I love them. Life is short and you never know when you are gonna make a final trip to the penalty box so you might as well let people know how you feel.

Sorry I just meant to a significant other. Of course you should say it to family and friends. It's also kind of weird these three words can mean so much. Like when you're told to love everyone in the world, but then you aren't allowed to say it someone that you're just started dating. So therefore it can mean a few things and the one I was referring to is the latter of the two examples.