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carpenterguy
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Headline grabbers

Post by carpenterguy »

We live in a country where most Americans are too lazy to dig for the facts.

The dems and their liberal media buddies are making it seem as if Bush is against helping poor children with health care. The fact is Bush was willing to increase the bill to 30 billion. Of course the dems want it to be over 60 billion.

Right here in MN over 90% of the money set aside for poor children and their health care is used by adults. Hmmmm................

Too bad most people look at a headline and take it as the gospel!
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Re: Headline grabbers

Post by TTpuckster »

carpenterguy wrote:We live in a country where most Americans are too lazy to dig for the facts.

The dems and their liberal media buddies are making it seem as if Bush is against helping poor children with health care. The fact is Bush was willing to increase the bill to 30 billion. Of course the dems want it to be over 60 billion.

Right here in MN over 90% of the money set aside for poor children and their health care is used by adults. Hmmmm................

Too bad most people look at a headline and take it as the gospel!
Yea, because most of us got convinced, somehow, that there were WMD in Iraq.

I'm not really giving you a bad time Carpenter, I'm just pointing out that both parties are pretty good at these techniques.

As you said, we all need to look deeper and determine what is really true and what is just politics.
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Post by packerboy »

So, what do you think. Are most people smart enough to recognize spin or not?

The Politcal ad industry doesnt seem to think so.
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Post by TTpuckster »

packerboy wrote:So, what do you think. Are most people smart enough to recognize spin or not?

The Politcal ad industry doesnt seem to think so.
I don't know about smart enough.

I think, as CG put it, maybe too lazy to spend the time.
carpenterguy
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Post by carpenterguy »

The WMD thoughts were shared by both parties and many other countries.

I mean, we have three different countries that, while they all present serious problems for the United States -- they're dictatorships, they're involved in the development and proliferation of weapons of mass destruction -- you know, the most imminent, clear and present threat to our country is not the same from those three countries. I think Iraq is the most serious and imminent threat to our country."



Senator John Edwards (Democrat, North Carolina) During an interview on CNN's "Late Edition"
February 24, 2002

"There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein's regime is a serious danger, that he is a tyrant, and that his pursuit of lethal weapons of mass destruction cannot be tolerated. He must be disarmed."



Senator Edward Kennedy (Democrat, Massachusetts)

Speech at Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies
September 27, 2002
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members...



It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."



Senator Hillary Clinton (Democrat, New York)

Addressing the US Senate
October 10, 2002


"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force - if necessary - to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."



Senator John Kerry (Democrat, Massachusetts)

Addressing the US Senate
October 9, 2002
"Iraq is a long way from Ohio, but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."



Madeleine Albright, President Clinton's Secretary of State
Town Hall Meeting on Iraq at Ohio State University
February 18, 1998

"Imagine the consequences if Saddam fails to comply and we fail to act. Saddam will be emboldened, believing the international community has lost its will. He will rebuild his arsenal of weapons of mass destruction. And some day, some way, I am certain, he will use that arsenal again, as he has ten times since 1983."



Sandy Berger, President Clinton's National Security Advisor
Town Hall Meeting on Iraq at Ohio State University
February 18, 1998

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to completely deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.



We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."



Al Gore, Former Clinton Vice-President

Speech to San Francisco Commonwealth Club
September 23, 2002
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Post by BIAFP »

carpenterguy wrote:The WMD thoughts were shared by both parties and many other countries.

I mean, we have three different countries that, while they all present serious problems for the United States -- they're dictatorships, they're involved in the development and proliferation of weapons of mass destruction -- you know, the most imminent, clear and present threat to our country is not the same from those three countries. I think Iraq is the most serious and imminent threat to our country."



Senator John Edwards (Democrat, North Carolina) During an interview on CNN's "Late Edition"
February 24, 2002

"There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein's regime is a serious danger, that he is a tyrant, and that his pursuit of lethal weapons of mass destruction cannot be tolerated. He must be disarmed."



Senator Edward Kennedy (Democrat, Massachusetts)

Speech at Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies
September 27, 2002
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members...



It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."



Senator Hillary Clinton (Democrat, New York)

Addressing the US Senate
October 10, 2002


"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force - if necessary - to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."



Senator John Kerry (Democrat, Massachusetts)

Addressing the US Senate
October 9, 2002
"Iraq is a long way from Ohio, but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."



Madeleine Albright, President Clinton's Secretary of State
Town Hall Meeting on Iraq at Ohio State University
February 18, 1998

"Imagine the consequences if Saddam fails to comply and we fail to act. Saddam will be emboldened, believing the international community has lost its will. He will rebuild his arsenal of weapons of mass destruction. And some day, some way, I am certain, he will use that arsenal again, as he has ten times since 1983."



Sandy Berger, President Clinton's National Security Advisor
Town Hall Meeting on Iraq at Ohio State University
February 18, 1998

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to completely deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.



We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."



Al Gore, Former Clinton Vice-President

Speech to San Francisco Commonwealth Club
September 23, 2002


Don't you know by now that Liberals never want to be confused with facts?
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Post by TTpuckster »

BIAFP wrote:
carpenterguy wrote:The WMD thoughts were shared by both parties and many other countries.




Don't you know by now that Liberals never want to be confused with facts?

The Point exactly Bader.

Obviously CG takes the time.
But how many Americans really take the time to really look behind the political front?
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