who loses the most to private school transfers?

royals0951 · Post by **royals0951** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:31 pm

what school loses the most talent to private schools?

mnhockey07 · Post by **mnhockey07** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:43 pm

Well within the last couple of years, in my opinion Orono was hit pretty hard by losing:
Taylor Matson- AHA-committed to UofM (Des Moines) I think
Adam Estoclet-BSM-Dartmouth
There are multiple schools that lose alot of good talent, Orono is probly the most recent that I know of.

Please let me know of more schools.

royals0951 · Post by **royals0951** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:45 pm

im gonna say woodbury. there were 14 players playing in the 2006 state tournament (not last year, 2 years ago) that live in woodbury. woodbury HS did not play in the state tournament that year. notable recent players include tyler zepeda at hill, dan cecka at hill, dom pitera at CDH, mike bangs at cdh, and ben hause at cdh. nick pryor is another one who lived in woodbury but went to hill, but he plays in ann arbor now for the national team

Walter Sojack · Post by **Walter Sojack** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:19 pm

No question Edina. This is hands down. Maybe not this year, but 2 years ago? Someone compiled a list and something around 25 kids that could have been playing Edina Varsity were playing Juniors, Private Schools, or accelerated to college

Pucknutz69 · Post by **Pucknutz69** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:47 pm

Cottage Grove has;

7 @ Hill = Sova, Hill, Meier, Pulanco, Holler and P Johnson who has quit hockey(he might have graduated last year thou) younger Sova will be here also.

3 @ CDH = McClelland, Deflorin and Weyandt (left after peewees)

2 @ STA = Jirele brothers 9th grade jv goalie(soild for bantams last year) and older brother who has quit

3 @ St Bernard's = Hoke brothers and Fornier

Also 3 @ WBL = Putney and Hauswirth bros played up to Bantams then moved.

Fargo · Post by **Fargo** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:51 pm

Pucknutz69 wrote:Cottage Grove has;

7 @ Hill = Sova, Hill, Meier, Pulanco, Holler and P Johnson who has quit hockey(he might have graduated last year thou) younger Sova will be here also.

3 @ CDH = McClelland, Deflorin and Weyandt (left after peewees)

2 @ STA = Jirele brothers 9th grade jv goalie(soild for bantams last year) and older brother who has quit

3 @ St Bernard's = Hoke brothers and Fornier

Also 3 @ WBL = Putney and Hauswirth bros played up to Bantams then moved.

You Win - ouch

sachishi4 · Post by **sachishi4** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:10 pm

Pucknutz69 wrote:Cottage Grove has;

7 @ Hill = Sova, Hill, Meier, Pulanco, Holler and P Johnson who has quit hockey(he might have graduated last year thou) younger Sova will be here also.

3 @ CDH = McClelland, Deflorin and Weyandt (left after peewees)

2 @ STA = Jirele brothers 9th grade jv goalie(soild for bantams last year) and older brother who has quit

3 @ St Bernard's = Hoke brothers and Fornier

Also 3 @ WBL = Putney and Hauswirth bros played up to Bantams then moved.

Peter johnson cant play hockey after his concussion from last year

Pucknutz69 · Post by **Pucknutz69** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:16 pm

so should I change it to "had to quit?"

sachishi4 · Post by **sachishi4** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:25 pm

Hockeyguy_27 · Post by **Hockeyguy_27** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 10:42 pm

sachishi4 wrote:yea

Stillwater loses quite a few to Hill
Minnetonka and Orono seem to have a lot of rich people who opt for private schools.

Chaska is losing kids like crazy.

I think it depends on the year.

eagle4life9 · Post by **eagle4life9** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 12:38 am

the city of lakeville lost alot
schroeder, mergens, crandall, the entire 9th grade class from lakeville south...people would have stayed if the schools didnt split

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:19 am

Henry Sibley has lots that go to Cretin or St Thomas.

One thing that needs to be remembered is that it's not "losing" the players if they were always private school kids. Lots of kids who are listed went to private schools all their life. They would have done that regardless of where they lived.

sachishi4 · Post by **sachishi4** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:22 am

HShockeywatcher wrote:Henry Sibley has lots that go to Cretin or St Thomas.

One thing that needs to be remembered is that it's not "losing" the players if they were always private school kids. Lots of kids who are listed went to private schools all their life. They would have done that regardless of where they lived.

gee whiz, who would have thought of this

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:38 am

You're from Hill Murray, why would you argue with me? There are lots of big names mentioned who were never a part of the public school system. Just because they reside in that area doesn't mean you get claim to them.

sachishi4 · Post by **sachishi4** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:46 am

im not arguing it, im sayin that people always forget this fact and just assume all kids go to public elementary and middle school.

stars612 · Post by **stars612** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:47 am

True story.

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:55 am

1. There's that, which people can't just assume. If you're going to send your kids to a private school you can live wherever you want.
2. It also happens with public schools. If you live in the Kennedy district, you'll try to OE early to Jefferson to be on a better team, for example. Well, for some with Woodbury, Sibley, Cottage Grove, etc (none of those are hockey powers) so if you live near them, you'll just choose to go somewhere else for hockey.

SEC Scotty · Post by **SEC Scotty** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 12:20 pm

Pucknutz69 wrote:Cottage Grove has;

7 @ Hill = Sova, Hill, Meier, Pulanco, Holler and P Johnson who has quit hockey(he might have graduated last year thou) younger Sova will be here also.

3 @ CDH = McClelland, Deflorin and Weyandt (left after peewees)

2 @ STA = Jirele brothers 9th grade jv goalie(soild for bantams last year) and older brother who has quit

3 @ St Bernard's = Hoke brothers and Fornier

Also 3 @ WBL = Putney and Hauswirth bros played up to Bantams then moved.

Hopefully Jay Moser can take the CG program in a differant direction than the former coach and get the association players to stay in the community.

wbmd · Post by **wbmd** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 12:20 pm

Pucknutz69 wrote:Cottage Grove has;

7 @ Hill = Sova, Hill, Meier, Pulanco, Holler and P Johnson who has quit hockey(he might have graduated last year thou) younger Sova will be here also.

3 @ CDH = McClelland, Deflorin and Weyandt (left after peewees)

2 @ STA = Jirele brothers 9th grade jv goalie(soild for bantams last year) and older brother who has quit

3 @ St Bernard's = Hoke brothers and Fornier

Also 3 @ WBL = Putney and Hauswirth bros played up to Bantams then moved.

Besides, W.B.L. is a public school.

There's a difference between moving and transferring.

eastonstealth · Post by **eastonstealth** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 1:22 pm

champlin and broklyn park lose a lot of kids to totino, breck, blake, etc.

Charliedog · Post by **Charliedog** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 2:07 pm

I think you can only use the word "transfer" if they switched AFTER they first attended the public high school.

Maybe the initial question should have been written like this:

How many youth associations which are feeder programs (but can't say that they are feeder programs) had kids (which they don't own, but think they own) go to schools other than the local high school?

I don't know what the solution is other than to start a new youth association and call it "The anyone who is considering attending a private school must play here Youth Hockey Association" If they did this, then there would be complaints from the neighboring youth associations that this team would be stacked. And where would you start......at mini mites? It sure sounds silly and besides....think of all the opportunities which have opened up to other kids because this small group chooses to attend a different school.

wbmd · Post by **wbmd** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 2:19 pm

Charliedog wrote:I think you can only use the word "transfer" if they switched AFTER they first attended the public high school.

Good point.

ImissMYhockey · Post by **ImissMYhockey** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 2:29 pm

Mounds View, not neccessarily this year but the previous years have lost players to Hill, Cretin, TG, and Roseville. Their biggest lost just came when they lost Ryan Wolter to White Bear.

thorhockey · Post by **thorhockey** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 2:38 pm

charliedog wrote

this team would be stacked.

Everyone would be happy if the privates would go back to the independent state championship pre '75 then they can "stack" all they want. There would be no complaints of who owns what kid from what feeder school. Hill could claim all the central catholic conference championships they can handle
It might keep more kids at home however which also keeps the public school
teams happy
End of the private vs public debate

Charliedog · Post by **Charliedog** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 3:02 pm

The solutions to life's problems are not to simply eliminate, remove or complain about things we don't like. Let's just all agree to disagree and focus on being thankful that our differences don't prevent us from enjoying another great season of high school hockey!