1AA seeding meeting/results?

CrossbarandIn99 · Post by **CrossbarandIn99** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:13 pm

anyone know when these come out?

STEV16 · Post by **STEV16** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:49 pm

If not tonight, by tomorrow would be my guess..

DickTrickle · Post by **DickTrickle** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:52 pm

a lot of the teams in this section arent done with there seasons yet

STEV16 · Post by **STEV16** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:56 pm

good point, duh. So knowing that I guess they would be done on saturday, so Sunday morning would be my guess for the meeting then.

eagle4life9 · Post by **eagle4life9** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:16 pm

coaches fax there seeds by 2:00pm Saturday I believe. Results will be on the MSHSL website asap after that.

STEV16 · Post by **STEV16** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:33 pm

wouldnt they have to do it in person? Just becuase of the debate factor if they disagree

LZ94 · Post by **LZ94** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:35 pm

STEV16 wrote:wouldnt they have to do it in person? Just becuase of the debate factor if they disagree

Which is why they all write it down and send it in. No debate. Coaches vote on all teams except their own and BOOM! DONE!

SEMinnHockeyNut · Post by **SEMinnHockeyNut** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:38 pm

And every year there is some sort of curveball involved....so don't be surprised to see something strange because let's be honest, some coaches are looking mostly at the team's record.

STEV16 · Post by **STEV16** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:40 pm

Well then whats the tie breaker? Aren't most of the section meetings in person, for this reason?

eagle4life9 · Post by **eagle4life9** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:27 pm

Most of them are but in section 1AA they all just fax in there rankings. They rank all the teams except themselves. I believe whoever takes them has a points system you get a certain number of points for getting ranked 1 and then less for 2 and so on.

All of hockey should do it the way football does it with a points system all year. It works really well and you dont have any coaches voting who may have grudges.

STEV16 · Post by **STEV16** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:32 pm

yeah, that seems to make more sense. thanks eagle

Chalktalk · Post by **Chalktalk** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:12 am

eagle4life9 wrote:coaches fax there seeds by 2:00pm Saturday I believe. Results will be on the MSHSL website asap after that.

Actually the seeds ares supposed to be posted at noon. Faxed in results are due in a.m. Tonight will probably make or break some teams(Mayo, Century) Sure will be interesting.

RYHA_needs_3 · Post by **RYHA_needs_3** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:27 am

They should do this they should do that...They do it this way because it has worked for many years. One fact remains after the seedings are processed: The team that wins the section had to kick@ss for three games, 2 of them on soft @ss ice at the Rec Center.

Move the Championship games to an NHL sized neutral rink that seats 2000 minimum on the south side of the twin cities. That is more important than the seedings I think. The Rec Center has shatty ice and is home ice for Century and JM.

LZ94 · Post by **LZ94** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:39 pm

eagle4life9 wrote:Most of them are but in section 1AA they all just fax in there rankings. They rank all the teams except themselves. I believe whoever takes them has a points system you get a certain number of points for getting ranked 1 and then less for 2 and so on.

All of hockey should do it the way football does it with a points system all year. It works really well and you dont have any coaches voting who may have grudges.

1 point for being ranked #1, 2 for #2 etc.

Lowest point total is ranked #1, next lowest is #2 etc. No clue what the tie breaker is. Maybe a coin flip.

PowerPlay™ · Post by **PowerPlay™** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:45 pm

LZ94 wrote:
eagle4life9 wrote:Most of them are but in section 1AA they all just fax in there rankings. They rank all the teams except themselves. I believe whoever takes them has a points system you get a certain number of points for getting ranked 1 and then less for 2 and so on.

All of hockey should do it the way football does it with a points system all year. It works really well and you dont have any coaches voting who may have grudges.
1 point for being ranked #1, 2 for #2 etc.

Lowest point total is ranked #1, next lowest is #2 etc. No clue what the tie breaker is. Maybe a coin flip.

You know.....I think you are right about the coin flip thing. If I remember right, there have been a few coin flips in the past. Reminds me of that high school football movie based on a true story in Texas. That one kid that Billy Bob Thornton's character in Slingblade befriended is in the football movie too. I like french fried pataters, umhum.

eagle4life9 · Post by **eagle4life9** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:46 pm

I see where your coming from RYHA but as a player, playing the section championship game in RCC where it is jam packed with students everywhere, the band there, etc. There arent alot of things like it and it is one of the most fun places to play.

PS-I dont care if its Century's home rink Lakeville (North) doesnt seem to care to much

hockiepuck · Post by **hockiepuck** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:38 pm

RYHA_needs_3 wrote:They should do this they should do that...They do it this way because it has worked for many years. One fact remains after the seedings are processed: The team that wins the section had to kick@ss for three games, 2 of them on soft @ss ice at the Rec Center.

Move the Championship games to an NHL sized neutral rink that seats 2000 minimum on the south side of the twin cities. That is more important than the seedings I think. The Rec Center has shatty ice and is home ice for Century and JM.

I totally agree. Soft ice and DARK ! ! ! at the Rec Center.....

goldy313 · Post by **goldy313** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:45 pm

At the end of February nobody can guarantee good ice. Cripes, Graham usually has cones up because the cement is showing through. Since Century and JM no longer practice at the Rec it isn't as big of a deal anymore.

Points isn't a very good system unless alll teams played are in the same class. It's a nightmare in football, the MSHSL has stepped in at least twice to rectify bad point situations where a team, because of their conference, can go undefeated and still not make the playoffs (Springfield). 1AA has teams from 3 conferences and an indepentant, the Lake is all AA teams the Big Nine and Missota are largely A teams. Playing Burnsville twice can't and shouldn't be equated with playing Austin twice. The only way to make a point system is to make everyone in the section play everyone else in the section, that's how Iowa does it, but the Lakeville schools can't due to conference requirements.

DickTrickle · Post by **DickTrickle** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 8:39 pm

Rumor on the street is that mayo and century may play in the 1st round....

eagle4life9 · Post by **eagle4life9** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:10 am

rumor is that the top 5 seeds ended like this

LS
LN
Owatonna
Mayo
Century

so it would be mayo/century again and it could be a lakeville final

pondyplayer93 · Post by **pondyplayer93** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:19 am

1. Lakeville South
2. Owatonna
3. Lakeville North
4. Rochster Century
5. Rochester Mayo
6. Farmington
7. Winona
8. Dodge County
9. Rochester J.M.

final seedings

STC18 · Post by **STC18** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 1:51 pm

Even though Lakeville North did in fact beat Mayo and tied Century, they shouldn't have the 3 seed since they'll soon be 2-8 in their last 10 after Jefferson today. Just my opinion.

goldy313 · Post by **goldy313** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:27 pm

Actually JM is 8, Dodge County is 9.

gopher1 · Post by **gopher1** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 6:20 pm

STC18 wrote:Even though Lakeville North did in fact beat Mayo and tied Century, they shouldn't have the 3 seed since they'll soon be 2-8 in their last 10 after Jefferson today. Just my opinion.

Hey STC you seem sound a little bitter about Lake-North being the 3rd seed. Where would have you put them? Of the Rochester teams, where would you put them?

stud-lee · Post by **stud-lee** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:26 am

pondyplayer93 wrote:1. Lakeville South
2. Owatonna
3. Lakeville North
4. Rochster Century
5. Rochester Mayo
6. Farmington
7. Winona
8. Dodge County
9. Rochester J.M.

final seedings

These teams should be happy they aren't in 1A this year.