Anyone else Against Ness getting MR. Hockey?

koho snipe · Post by **koho snipe** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:28 pm

maybe its just me, and you can criticize the hell outta me if it is, but i am against the fact that a junior, skipping his senior year of high school, will probably win Mr. Hockey in MN. Sure he is the best player in the state, but i feel a senior who has hung on with his team for 3+ years should be honored with this prestigous award.

saintpaulhockey · Post by **saintpaulhockey** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:30 pm

agreed

mulefarm · Post by **mulefarm** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:30 pm

I pretty much agree, but not sure he is the best player in the state?

grindiangrad-80 · Post by **grindiangrad-80** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:30 pm

I'd say if he is the best player in the state he should win it, whether he is a freshman or a senior.
Just my opinion.

O-townClown · Post by **O-townClown** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:32 pm

Disagree. No argument here if he wins it. There's also a Jake Gardiner lovefest going on so he could win too.

highschoolhockeyfann · Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:36 pm

He's not skipping, but combining. Also wasn't he on the team as a 9th grader, I think he is as deserving as anyone else on that list

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:38 pm

Why would you think he is not a senior?
He graduates this spring.
He turns 18 in May.
He will not be in high school next year.

Is he the best player in high school?
Perhaps.
Should he be the winner of Mr. Hockey?
You provided no reason why he should not be.

But I think we should let those that vote decide.

mulefarm · Post by **mulefarm** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:38 pm

Why isn't Budish , Everson, Leddy and Walters up for this award?

Post by **karl(east)** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:39 pm

Is Ness the best player in the state? Probably. But I think giving him the award sets a dangerous precedent, saying to players that it's OK to cut short your education for hockey, and this really isn't what's in the MSHSL's best interests.

61ache · Post by **61ache** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:41 pm

karl(east) wrote:Is Ness the best player in the state? Probably. But I think giving him the award sets a dangerous precedent, saying to players that it's OK to cut short your education for hockey, and this really isn't what's in the MSHSL's best interests.

How is he cutting his education short? He's graduating from HS after fulfilling the same requirements as every other kid who gets a diploma?

61ache · Post by **61ache** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:43 pm

karl(east) wrote:Is Ness the best player in the state? Probably. But I think giving him the award sets a dangerous precedent, saying to players that it's OK to cut short your education for hockey, and this really isn't what's in the MSHSL's best interests.

How is he cutting his education short? He's graduating from HS after fulfilling the same requirements as every other kid who gets a diploma? IMO half these people that think he shouldn't win also think that a kid that plays for their school somehow should

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:43 pm

karl(east) wrote:Is Ness the best player in the state? Probably. But I think giving him the award sets a dangerous precedent, saying to players that it's OK to cut short your education for hockey, and this really isn't what's in the MSHSL's best interests.

Apparently you know little about the Roseau school district.
Ness will be graduating with a degree that he earned based on work performed within an institution with high academic standards (albeit public

).

GR3343 · Post by **GR3343** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:45 pm

Not against him winning the award because of the academic thing, but I don't think he should win it this year. Seen him play several times, and he's not deserving of Mr. Hockey. As good as he is, I've seen better this season.

rbk2090 · Post by **rbk2090** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:47 pm

I have to agree with O-townclown. As far as the LOVEFEST I think everyone in Tonka knows why there is sooooo much love in the media. Go Ness.[/quote]

wbmd · Post by **wbmd** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:48 pm

Against

koho snipe · Post by **koho snipe** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:48 pm

i think gleason,barnes or lehrke should get the award

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:49 pm

GR3343 wrote:Not against him winning the award because of the academic thing, but I don't think he should win it this year. Seen him play several times, and he's not deserving of Mr. Hockey. As good as he is, I've seen better this season.

Now this is an opinion worth posting.
Is he the best HS senior player?

I think he might be, but there are others that I would think would be as good a represenitive of hockey skill within the group of ten that was proposed.

mulefarm · Post by **mulefarm** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:49 pm

How many other kids in the Roseau District have done this? Is he the first or does this happen frequently?

Slap Shot · Post by **Slap Shot** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:49 pm

If he wins more power to him and congratulations. Anything against is bad sportsmanship.

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:50 pm

mulefarm wrote:How many other kids in the Roseau District have done this? Is he the first or does this happen frequently?

This happens regularly throughout MN. I would not say frequently.

wbmd · Post by **wbmd** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:51 pm

mulefarm wrote:How many other kids in the Roseau District have done this? Is he the first or does this happen frequently?

I realize he didn't play for Roseau, however, Toby Peterson did the same thing when he was at Bloomington Jefferson in the '90's.

Post by **karl(east)** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:52 pm

I'm not exactly of the opinion that meeting the bare minimum requirement for graduation is exactly completing an education, but that's getting into an entirely different argument.

And no, I have no ulterior motive for saying these things against Ness...there's no one from East up for Mr. Hockey, nor should there be this year, and I'd be happy to keep the award in the northern part of the state. I just don't think bolting high school early should make someone eligible for an award for which everyone else has had to go through an extra year.

Personally I could have graduated in 3 years if I'd dropped a few electives and schemed it out. I just wonder if more and more players will realize they can do this too, and that's really not in the best interests of Minnesota HS hockey.

Can't Never Tried · Post by **Can't Never Tried** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:56 pm

It's an honor to even make the final list, they're all terrific hockey players.
Congrats to whoever receives it...and I totally agree, from here out it's about sportsmanship.

mulefarm · Post by **mulefarm** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:58 pm

If Toby Petersen did graduate early, why wasn't he not considered for Mr Hockey?

Post by **east hockey** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:10 am

http://www.ushsho.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=15439

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Anyone else Against Ness getting MR. Hockey?

Anyone else Against Ness getting MR. Hockey?

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anyone else against ness getting Mr. Hockey